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I play every day for 8+ hours on RIO, the only bug that still happens to me fairly often is the sit-out bug, once you sit (time) out, you sometimes can't sit back in. Closing and rejoining the table fixes this though.

Other than that I have a crash every few days but so far I have always been able to restart the client and continue with the hands before timing out became an issue.

Last edited by Fergastra; 03-18-2019 at 08:03 AM. Reason: words, not enough of them

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03-18-2019 , 02:12 PM

#677

BadSeed

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 470

I rarely play longer than an hour, but hand history reader crashes on a regular basis - they just stop adding new hands.

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03-19-2019 , 05:49 PM

#678

carl_sebastian

newbie

Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 40

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Originally Posted by JossoDee

Effective rake is ~25%-30% better than Stars.

Unless you reach level 1 for the streamR program you will still get rake-raped liked almost all other poker sites.

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While I disagree with him that it's not beatable I agree with him that it's not the kind of rake that will revitalise the "poker dream". It will not make moving up the stakes that much easier compared to the options that are already out there. Nor will it increase the amount of slightly winning/break even players that would linger around and prop up the echo system. It's also not the kind of rake that will incentivise players to consolidate their action on RIO.

And sure, overall the rake is fine in the context of the current landscape but it's not consistent with the whole "poker dream" rhetoric, that's all.

The poker dream is probably dead for good, if you have the mental abilities to be a winning playing making a good income you would probably make more money in other areas.

Maybe pokerstars realized online poker will die and thus they just rake it the max now not expecting it to last.

It's just a question of time before bots kills online poker for good, i do not think STP will do much to deter bots.

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03-19-2019 , 09:23 PM

#679

jimmyfingers

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 402

is the streamR rakeback impacted by proceeds from the Splash the Pot, bonuses, or other promotions? or is it in addition to other benefits?

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03-19-2019 , 09:25 PM

#680

jimmyfingers

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 402

sorry, one other suggestion. would be great if the page listed the featured streamRs actually had a feed showing who is live right now. i clicked through a few but none of them were streaming now so it's pretty useless to find someone to watch.

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03-20-2019 , 07:42 AM

#681

Fergastra

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 582

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Originally Posted by jimmyfingers

Good point, I know that the StreamR page is getting reworked, so it might do that in the future.
For now you can join the discord, there the streamR's have their own section, showing who is currently live.

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03-20-2019 , 08:18 AM

#682

ToiletBowler

adept

Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 1,144

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Originally Posted by carl_sebastian

IMO stars are doing something right by spreading novelty poker games. STP is a step in that direction and i'd love to see more of those being spread.
League of Legends has constant updates that change the balance of power. it keeps the game from getting stale. Something like that would keep the dream alive and keep bots at bay.

I thought Showtime Hold'em was a great move much like chess 960, shame it didn't stick. That would be a nightmare for bots to try and play in.

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03-20-2019 , 09:58 AM

#683

carl_sebastian

newbie

Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 40

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Originally Posted by ToiletBowler

STP situations are easier to solve due to lower stack to pot ratio, the bigger the splash the easier it is to solve.

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I thought Showtime Hold'em was a great move much like chess 960, shame it didn't stick. That would be a nightmare for bots to try and play in.

Most people will not switch over to a new game even if it's less solvable, it needs to have simple rules and also be appealing in general.

Even omaha is probably too complex for most people.

As for showtime holdem: should be even easier to solve for a particular situation postflop since the number of different hands people can have become reduced. ent hands people can have become reduced.

The only successful new game so far has been holdem 6+ which is easier to solve than holdem.

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03-20-2019 , 10:49 AM

#684

ToiletBowler

adept

Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 1,144

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Originally Posted by carl_sebastian

STP situations are easier to solve due to lower stack to pot ratio, the bigger the splash the easier it is to solve.

Most people will not switch over to a new game even if it's less solvable, it needs to have simple rules and also be appealing in general.

Even omaha is probably too complex for most people.

As for showtime holdem: should be even easier to solve for a particular situation postflop since the number of different hands people can have become reduced. ent hands people can have become reduced.

The only successful new game so far has been holdem 6+ which is easier to solve than holdem.

You throw the word "solve" around like it's something you can just do in an afternoon. "Sure let me just solve 2bb splash. Tomorrow, I'll solve 3bb splash. After that 5bb splash. I'll be running bots on RIO by the end of the week!"

These variants are hard for bots because instead of having to come up with a good solution for poker, they have to come up with a solution for poker x 20 (1 bb splash, 2bb splash, etc).

Same thing with Showtime Holdem. Think of the different combos of folded hands that can appear. That's how many different games have to be solved/programmed.

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03-21-2019 , 06:28 AM

#685

RunItOnce Nick

Poker Site Rep

Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 99

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Originally Posted by delfins

In there any way to convert RIO raw hh from prev. hands into more viewable format?
Converter/software or anything?

Our Discord users have been using the following converter: https://pokeit.co/convert/

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Originally Posted by Airblaze

Hey this is an obvious question but one that is hard to look for, what is the difference between RIO.eu and RIO.com player pool wise

Hi Airblaze,

RunItOnce.com is a training website. RunItOnce.eu is the only site with an active player pool.

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Originally Posted by firsttime

hi is it true UK players cant get the rakeback stream promo? if so that's sad

and I often travel to Singapore can I login from there?

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Originally Posted by firsttime

Just to let you know that even tho I won't get any streamer rake back I will be streaming on twitch one session a day on Twitch as Coach technique. Good luck to RIO

Hi firsttime,

Yes, unfortunately at this time, we can't offer the streamR promo to users from the UK due to regulatory restrictions. We're working on an alternative solution for this, and we will make a post in this thread accordingly. Singapore is a restricted country so you won't be able to play when you're there.

Make sure to drop a link to your stream in our Discord server when you go live. If you haven't joined, here is a link.

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03-21-2019 , 06:29 AM

#686

RunItOnce Nick

Poker Site Rep

Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 99

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Originally Posted by insomniac86

Anything on this please? Cheers

We're actively looking into it. When I have an update, I'll make a post in this thread.

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03-21-2019 , 06:50 AM

#687

RunItOnce Nick

Poker Site Rep

Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 99

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Originally Posted by Koenigsblut

I registrated here to write a little about RIO Poker. (Not native english, so be nice to the typing misstakes) ;-)
I have been a professional poker player since 2008. And even though I had a nice success playing online mtts (1 M winnings/ XXX K profit
I quitted online poker, and switched to live mtts and cg, because it is obvious that most of the sites rigg and fix the games.
I don't want to go deep into that topic, but if one knows which "group" all these sites belong to, and what their agenda is,
there is no doubt what is going on in in this industry. (888, stars, pp, bwin, all Ipoker and more). Anyone who doesn't feel this way, feel free to keep playing those sites.

Therefore I was even more happy that Phil Galfond is opening this new site.

My first impression is very good!
To all the people that are crying about the beta I can say this:

Be happy that there is a legit online poker site now, that doesn't rip of it's "customers"/golddonkeys by putting bots into
mtts to steal extra money from the price pool, generating fixed action with rng algoritms, and ripping them off. Seriously, you guys should thank heaven,
and support this project as much as you can.
All you people should be super happy about this site and that the owner keeps such a close contact to his customers.

That said I have some improvements to make to make this site better.
I hope that RIO will grow over time and destroy sites like stars, 888, pp etc.

Here are my thoughts:

1. Implement mtts ans (6max/12max/32max/108max) sngs as soon as possible.
2. Implement plo20
3. Fix the table sizing issue as soon as possible
4. Fix the time out issue as soon as possible/ and enable people to sit back at the table, they were kick of
5. Time bank should be expanded to at least 10 seconds.
6. Implement picture cards into the hh
7. Increase the time the showdown hands are shown. They dissapear too quick.
8. Fix the shortcut key issue. I always have to renew the check/call shortcut, as I laungh the lobby to start a session.
9. Implement a check/fold shortcut button
10. Fix the bank money transfer issue. My Fidor business credit card was not accepted.
11. Fix the Skrill issue. Skrill was not accepted due to gambling protection.
12. Please implement a vip system that values regs that grind a lot, that do not want to stream.
13. All beta software players that didn't deposit 600 €, should be able to get the bonus at the second deposit of the original version of the site. That would be just fair. At least all users are supporting this site.

Finally:
I am not very happy with the anonymous player pool. Here is why:
Poker is an adult game with money. Adults don't need to be protected in this context.
They are fully responsible for their action. If someone plays bad it is his full responsibility to change that.
The whole "protection of recreational players" bs is a made up vibe by the greedy big poker companies that
are only interested in squeezing as much money from fish and shark as they can.
It is a fake debate.
The essence of poker is winning money with the better hand from an opponent that has a weaker hand or is not able to read ranges. If the opponent is bad, he loses in the long run.
This is the professionals bread and butter.
Anonymising the player pool takes a huge aspect from poker, that represents it's core essence. I am not cool with changing the core essence of this game to protect adult people that are not acting clever with their money.
Imagine a live casino handing out masks to the bad players at the reception to protect them.
^^
I like the STP feature to keep bots away from the playerpool.

So congratz, and all the best to Phil and his team.
You made online poker great again hehe. Never get greedy. Stay like this! Don't let negative people demotivate you!

Hi Koenigsblut,

Appreciate you signing up to share your feedback with us. If you have been playing, you noticed we added 20PLO

We're working on adding SNGs and MTTs and hope to share an update on the progress soon. As well as updating many of the bugs you mentioned: time out issue, resizable tables, showdown speed. We're also working on adding a hand replayer.

In case you aren't aware, our timebank automatically activates once you've VPIPed. Players gain an additional 10 seconds every 30 hands dealt. The maximum timebank a player can reach is 120 seconds.

I've shared your feedback on your deposit experience with our payments team.

Thanks for the feedback and support. Good luck on the tables!

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03-21-2019 , 07:05 AM

#688

RunItOnce Nick

Poker Site Rep

Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 99

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Originally Posted by jimmyfingers

is the streamR rakeback impacted by proceeds from the Splash the Pot, bonuses, or other promotions? or is it in addition to other benefits?

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Originally Posted by jimmyfingers

streamRs receive rakeback based on the rake they end up paying after you factor in any rakeback (51% from STP) or rewards. For a full breakdown please check out our help centre, there is an example under the "How do I earn extra Rakeback?" section.

We plan to add a feature that will show when streamRs are live. Great suggestion

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03-23-2019 , 07:39 AM

#689

Husker

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 12,883

Finally managed to deposit yesterday and the only issue I've had is the site crashing when I try to sit out. I'm assuming this is something to do with me using Windows 7. Not really a big deal for me, as long as it doesn't crash while I'm still in a hand (it hasn't)

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03-24-2019 , 05:53 AM

#690

tomekpe

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 112

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Originally Posted by Husker

I have exactly the same issue, but Windows 7 is not supported so can't really complain.

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03-24-2019 , 11:14 AM

#691

Simua

stranger

Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 2

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Originally Posted by Mocktail

You're lucky if there's 200 players maximum at any time, usually it's closer too 50-100.
Safe to say there's plenty of fun players, just giving the software a go - But I question if that'll continue long term.

Appears my issues are being blames on the fact I run a Windows 7 operating system I was playing on yesterday. It is not a "supported" operating system I have just found out. I do have computers running a more modern system, but the fact I can't use a slightly older computer to play really bothers me personally, the "Fun" poker players aren't all going to have modern computer rigs.

I would hate to know how many BB's I lost yesterday, through crashed hands, ranging from 1BB from just posting, anywhere up too 100BB+ from my game glitching on the turn or river of large pots, and me just left there.

I highly recommend players look at all the fact's before hopping on, because at the end of the day even when I contacted support, it took ten emails to inform me that my operating system was apparently the issue. this after being told to "close the app and restart" or try reinstalling.

When attempting to cash-out yesterday, my cash-out was rejected apparently by my bank, which is weird in my opinion being that it works fine for this on pokerstars, party, and a range of other gambling websites.
They have informed me I need to deposit more money, in able to withdraw my money I have on the site?

Here is a small demonstration of a few of my issues yesterday;

Firstly, a fun video of the software at peek perfomance.

Secondly, stack sizes disappearing mid-hand.
https://pasteboard.co/I1MsYMd.png

Thanks for the reply; I'd disagree with you on streamers, hop on the RIO discord and you'll see many of them get disconnected or have tables crash from time to time, usually for a BB at max though, so they don't care.
There is multiple reports a day about software glitching or crashing mid hand and people losing money, each time they say to contact support, which I myself did, and being told to re-load the game or try re-installing didn't help in any way, shape or form. It's more of a "go deal with it in private, where people won't see the issues".

How did you end up solving REJECTED CASH OUT problem? I've just got the same e-mail from RIO support, that my cash out was rejected by my card issuer, although I'm cashing out from Pokerstars or PartyPoker with no problems..

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03-25-2019 , 12:05 PM

#692

RunItOnce Nick

Poker Site Rep

Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 99

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Originally Posted by Simua

Hey Simua,

If you haven't already please email support@runitonce.eu, and they will provide assistance.

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03-25-2019 , 01:46 PM

#693

Simua

stranger

Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 2

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Originally Posted by RunItOnce Nick

Hey Simua,

If you haven't already please email support@runitonce.eu, and they will provide assistance.

Thank you, it was my mistake, I've never cashed out to my Mastercard neither from PokerStars nor PartyPoker, and used direct bank transfer method instead. I'll try it on RunItOnce as well.

Cheers!

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03-26-2019 , 08:52 AM

#694

RunItOnce Nick

Poker Site Rep

Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 99

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Originally Posted by Simua

Thank you, it was my mistake, I've never cashed out to my Mastercard neither from PokerStars nor PartyPoker, and used direct bank transfer method instead. I'll try it on RunItOnce as well.

Cheers!

Thanks for the update.

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03-27-2019 , 10:22 AM

#695

Onasis

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 119

I live in Germany and i can't deposit via Mastercard. Thank you in advance.

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03-27-2019 , 10:39 AM

#696

RunItOnce Nick

Poker Site Rep

Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 99

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Originally Posted by Onasis

I live in Germany and i can't deposit via Mastercard. Thank you in advance.

Hi Onasis,

Can you please email support@runitonce.eu, they will be able to provide additional assistance.

Thank you!

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03-27-2019 , 10:42 AM

#697

RunItOnce Nick

Poker Site Rep

Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 99

Hello everyone,

One of our Discord members, Ghil Phalfond (no it is not Phil), is hosting another promotion, where he is giving away a total of €2000! This contest will focus on bringing your friends to Run It Once Poker.

This promotion will run until 12:00 CET on April 2nd. Ghil Phalfond’s Bring Your Friends promotion just kicked off and will run until 12:00 CET on April 2nd.

We’ll be awarding the top 10 referrers with the following prizes:
1st: €500
2nd: €300
3rd: €200
4th: €100
5th - 10th: €50

We’ll also be awarding 12 random participants with €50!

You’ll receive entries for the random draw by doing the following:
1 Entry for RTing our promotion announcement tweet
5 Entries for every friend you refer

Start securing your entries now! Good luck!

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03-27-2019 , 06:12 PM

#698

JackRandall

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,967

Have to say I thought the sit out/can't sit back in bug would have been fixed by now. Does it work for anyone? Pretty sure I've never once been able to sit back in

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03-28-2019 , 09:22 AM

#699

RunItOnce Nick

Poker Site Rep

Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 99

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Originally Posted by JackRandall

Have to say I thought the sit out/can't sit back in bug would have been fixed by now. Does it work for anyone? Pretty sure I've never once been able to sit back in

Hi JackRandall,

Apologies for the issues you're having with our sit out bug. Our team has been working on resolving this issue, and we're hoping to have an update in soon that will fix this.

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03-28-2019 , 11:43 AM

#700

Herrigel

adept

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,137

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Originally Posted by insyder19

I posted this in the NVG forum but got no response, perhaps my post has been overlooked?

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Originally Posted by insyder19

Phil, I would like to hear how you plan on fighting bots and colluders.
I have played a bunch on Party and it is so obvious that there are a bunch of bots playing fairly loose pre, colluding postflop, applying pressure nonstop and so on. Now the question arises, why those bots don't play nearly as much on Stars and it seems like that the ability to actually get stats on them helps a lot for us players to identify suspected bots and therefore report them.

Because RIO does not allow us to gain data on our opponents, I don't feel confident playing at all. In addition to that, I know that bot rings avoid Stars but feel confident playing on smaller networks, because there is less security going on.

Why does support seem to ignore this post in two threads?

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