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07-19-2018 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Kopogero
There are many big indicators one can notice when they're dealing with a criminal network.

At party poker you have a choice between being colluded on the anonymous tables or being HUD'ed at the fast forward tables. The fact they only allow a screen name change once in a lifetime is further proof of this.
This is what gets me... Making Party Poker a bad poker site. I'm a Party member for 10 years and they will ban you when you cheat. My account was on hold for chip dumping like 9 years ago... I won money and gave my poker buddy some money to play with. So it was no money laundry and they gave me a second chance. But I learn from my mistakes and I'm still playing at Party. And btw I changed my screen name 3 times in 10 years. Rules change in 10 years, so as the world changes. Party is also a part of the world, just like we all!

@ +EVcashout
And if Party poker skaiwalkurrr is somebody else,(which is of course possible) it would be really easy for Party Poker to catch him. Somebody that is playing with a bot uses a nickname from a pro. Really smart move!

And yes there are some bots. Say what ever you want, I'm done with this bot topic.
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07-19-2018 , 06:39 PM
LOL Party Poker is not banning any bots.
You even use the cheap trash bots. You even dont need to hide the bot or something they just dont ban.

A friend has made a test for a few weeks. He has used a bot on NL2. Ok, the bot was losing on NL2 :-D But thats not the point. Fact is that Party Poker cant even ban the cheapest trash bots. Or they dont want to ban bots, I dont know.

I have withdrawl all my money on Party Poker. I will not play anymore on this bot infested site.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 07-21-2018 at 06:02 AM.
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07-20-2018 , 07:21 AM
Hi, I'm new to PartyPoker. And I find the hand history really clunky. Whenever I want to see what my opponent called me with. I have to sift through a tiny text file.

PokerStars has a nice last hand replayer. Is there a 3rd party app like that for PartyPoker? Or some better way to see hand histories?
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07-20-2018 , 07:32 AM
Universal Replayer is one of the better free options out there if not the best.
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07-20-2018 , 02:34 PM
By my calculations, to be at the top of the Micro leaderboard for the rake race, you'd have to put in a minimum of 15 hours grinding four tables 10nl FF. Has anyone else ran any numbers on this?

Also same thing with the mid stakes leader board, looks like about 20k hands of grinding for #1 spot. I calculated for me I can max out at about 1200hands per hour 4 tabling. Am I way off here?

Which I understand being worth it for a $1000 prize, but for the $250 prize? That's like ~$15/hour if you breakeven with rakeback, with the potential of going broke.

Also what's stopping you from passing your grind off to your buddy after 7hours?

Anyway, these are just thoughts, and that being said I like the promotion, and I'm glad Party is running stuff like this and Happy Hour for the cash players.

Last edited by Razor Braun Fei; 07-20-2018 at 03:02 PM.
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07-20-2018 , 06:21 PM
Miss so much Gladiator promo(5 years ago?).

You grind, you win, no matter what.

Happy hours is pretty good too, but this rake race is only for bots.
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07-20-2018 , 07:48 PM
Promotions are always great but party poker is missing out on poor execution on these promos. For example the recent fast forward rake race, top 50 receive some $ from the total prize pool, but the top 4 receive 60% of the total prize pool. Which means being #7-8 or #40 makes little difference.

Indeed is designed for bots because races last 24 hours as well and people need to sleep at least 8 hours, and it goes straight for 10 days. If they spread the 5k prize pool among the top 30-50 EQUALLY then far more players would received far more for participating.
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07-20-2018 , 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Malfato
Miss so much Gladiator promo(5 years ago?).
Happy hours is pretty good too, but this rake race is only for bots.
Man I'm getting smashed in .5/.10 fastforward. On Pokerstars that stake is piss easy for me. Everyone's hand ranges are much tighter. They never seem to bluff. But they're also very good at bluff catching.

Are there ways to tell if one is a bot? Should I sit out for 10 days? Or is this the state of Fastforward regardless of the promo?
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07-21-2018 , 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by x64asm
LOL Party Poker is not banning any bots.
You even use the cheap trash bots. You even dont need to hide the bot or something they just dont ban.

A friend has made a test for a few weeks. He has used a bot on NL2. Ok, the bot was losing on NL2 :-D But thats not the point. Fact is that Party Poker cant even ban the cheapest trash bots. Or they dont want to ban bots, I dont know.

I have withdrawl all my money on Party Poker. I will not play anymore on this bot infested site.


Complete nonsense, I googled bots and some not even supported on Party. But I read some are popular on 888 and Betonline.

Party and Stars have less bots , maybe there are some , but I believe they take their security more serious.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 07-21-2018 at 06:01 AM.
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07-21-2018 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by CSIN
Man I'm getting smashed in .5/.10 fastforward. On Pokerstars that stake is piss easy for me. Everyone's hand ranges are much tighter. They never seem to bluff. But they're also very good at bluff catching.

Are there ways to tell if one is a bot? Should I sit out for 10 days? Or is this the state of Fastforward regardless of the promo?

Party poker is reg infested since most part of regs moved from PS to PP in order to get a good rakeback, so the game is much harder than PS, even at micro stakes.

What you should do is to study more and increase your game skills and stop thinking you are playing against bots(even though you probably are, lol)
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07-21-2018 , 01:45 PM
Something wierd just happen with the customer support.

I finnaly hit a Royal flush today to finish the "final hand" mission. Nothing happenned so I sent an email to customer support. I got a long answer, saying that I got indeed a Royal flush, but in order to finish the mission, I need a hand with 5 cards in sequence and from the same suit. Kind of strange, this the definition of a Royal flush...

So I sent an other email and I finnaly got my 25$.

Just saying that they probably have some kind of automatic answer, or there is someone in the customer support who clearly dont know what a Royal flush is.
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07-21-2018 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by losted
Something wierd just happen with the customer support.

I finnaly hit a Royal flush today to finish the "final hand" mission. Nothing happenned so I sent an email to customer support. I got a long answer, saying that I got indeed a Royal flush, but in order to finish the mission, I need a hand with 5 cards in sequence and from the same suit. Kind of strange, this the definition of a Royal flush...

So I sent an other email and I finnaly got my 25$.

Just saying that they probably have some kind of automatic answer, or there is someone in the customer support who clearly dont know what a Royal flush is.
Than you are lucky you received the money... Because you need a straight flush and not a royal flush.
I copy the text from Party Poker "final hand" mission.
Quote:
Quads
Win a hand at showdown with four of a kind.
Straight Flush
Win a hand at showdown with a straight flush.
Anyway Congratz with your Royal Flush!
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07-22-2018 , 01:55 AM
Party Poker is a criminal organization. You've been warned, gamble but gamble safely.
Their software is fixed/rigged to protect their losing players for the sake of staying longer which means more traffic while taking your $ through rake.

Great, professional players who do everything right will still earn some $ but never at the full potential. It's been tested and verified already 100% after many months of sampling data.

Party poker and every single person that earns $ at the behalf of rigging its player base deserve nothing less but hard and long time behind bars. You should just see how blatantly obviously they're rigging to protect their worst players from losing their $ too quick. They first ATTEMPTED and did separate their bad players from the good but after a huge backlash they reversed that and only because they now have this technology in place that protects their worst players.

Last edited by Kopogero; 07-22-2018 at 02:07 AM.
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07-22-2018 , 02:28 AM
...."new" Players not "worst" Players....i belive. but yes seems so.
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07-22-2018 , 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Stablegenious
I have a few “new” players winning some ridiculous amount against me in very short time, like for example 4, even 6 BI up against me in 150 hands, 200 hands.
May I propose a humble theory. These "new" players are just regs who changed their name monthly. They know how you play. You don't know how they play.

Naturally, they would have an edge short-term. After 200 hands, you start to get stats on them and edge back. Then next month they change their name again. Rinse, repeat.
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07-22-2018 , 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Razor Braun Fei
By my calculations, to be at the top of the Micro leaderboard for the rake race, you'd have to put in a minimum of 15 hours grinding four tables 10nl FF. Has anyone else ran any numbers on this?

Also same thing with the mid stakes leader board, looks like about 20k hands of grinding for #1 spot. I calculated for me I can max out at about 1200hands per hour 4 tabling. Am I way off here?

Which I understand being worth it for a $1000 prize, but for the $250 prize? That's like ~$15/hour if you breakeven with rakeback, with the potential of going broke.

Also what's stopping you from passing your grind off to your buddy after 7hours?

Anyway, these are just thoughts, and that being said I like the promotion, and I'm glad Party is running stuff like this and Happy Hour for the cash players.
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Originally Posted by Malfato
Miss so much Gladiator promo(5 years ago?).

You grind, you win, no matter what.

Happy hours is pretty good too, but this rake race is only for bots.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kopogero
Promotions are always great but party poker is missing out on poor execution on these promos. For example the recent fast forward rake race, top 50 receive some $ from the total prize pool, but the top 4 receive 60% of the total prize pool. Which means being #7-8 or #40 makes little difference.

Indeed is designed for bots because races last 24 hours as well and people need to sleep at least 8 hours, and it goes straight for 10 days. If they spread the 5k prize pool among the top 30-50 EQUALLY then far more players would received far more for participating.

I've shared all the feedback regarding promotion with the relevant team for review - thanks

Colette
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07-22-2018 , 06:59 AM
I appreciate that Colette. There is another factor in play where individuals from a same household can take turns/shifts which gives them significant advantage just like a bot does in a 24 straight race without sleep.

The way the current race works and how 60%+ of it is distributed to top 4-5 out of 50 is indeed working against Party's interest.

If they could design the happy hour they can surely design better promos over this.
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07-22-2018 , 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by CSIN
May I propose a humble theory. These "new" players are just regs who changed their name monthly..
And how do you that? Open a new account or what?
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07-22-2018 , 10:21 AM
Player/team/bot 'whoami71' simply playing 24 hours without a break to win the race,easy game...??
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07-22-2018 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by x64asm
LOL Party Poker is not banning any bots.
You even use the cheap trash bots. You even dont need to hide the bot or something they just dont ban.

A friend has made a test for a few weeks. He has used a bot on NL2. Ok, the bot was losing on NL2 :-D But thats not the point. Fact is that Party Poker cant even ban the cheapest trash bots. Or they dont want to ban bots, I dont know.

I have withdrawl all my money on Party Poker. I will not play anymore on this bot infested site.
@ party_Rep

What do you say about this? Do you guys just dont want to ban bots?
Or do you guys just have not the knowledge about bot detection etc.?

Dont ignore my statement !
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07-22-2018 , 05:33 PM
Are current session stats the only viable form of HUD stats? Reason I'm asking is because when I toggle lifetime stats on, it just says 'Player1' etc instead of the player's names which are visible at the table.
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07-22-2018 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by KossuKukkula
And how do you that? Open a new account or what?
You can change your table name every month. Or does that not affect player notes?
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07-23-2018 , 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by KossuKukkula
And how do you that? Open a new account or what?
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Originally Posted by CSIN
You can change your table name every month. Or does that not affect player notes?
You can not change screen name monthly - we do not offer the option


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Originally Posted by x64asm
@ party_Rep

What do you say about this? Do you guys just dont want to ban bots?
Or do you guys just have not the knowledge about bot detection etc.?

Dont ignore my statement !
As stated multiple times on this thread - we have a 24/7 Fraud and Risk team in place monitoring the tables and suspect players
The team continues to grow and have new tools/processes in place to ensure the safety of our players and ongoing improved BOT detection
We also look into player claims/info shared via multiple groups and forums

Should a player be found to be in violation of our T&Cs - accounts are closed, funds removed and redistributed to the player pool and users permanently removed from our games

Thanks

Colette
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07-23-2018 , 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by party_Rep
You can not change screen name monthly - we do not offer the option
My bad. Just googled it. It's every 180 days. My theory still stands.
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07-23-2018 , 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by CSIN
My bad. Just googled it. It's every 180 days. My theory still stands.
And this isn't true anymore.
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