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07-17-2018 , 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Deliric
not sure losing 280 buy ins can be called a downswing...
Congratulations on missing the point, surprised you didn’t ask me why I misspelled genius, anyway, when 100 is running with somene other than just regs, I play 100, so it’s closer to 70.

Point is I do not get downswings of almost any kind and suddenly when everyone does, so do I? If it was just regs don’t you think I know who they are and probably adjust when playing them? And how long do you think it takes even an average reg to figure out a new player is a reg from somewhere else?

Something happened and it wasn’t just new batch of bots, we had those on Party for as long as I have been playing there and never had downswings of almost any kind, let alone of 70, 100 BI.

Last edited by Stablegenious; 07-17-2018 at 02:00 AM.
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07-17-2018 , 08:05 PM
For those following my case. It was escalated to their Payments and Risk manager who took over the resolution of my case.

He called me several times as he stated he would to update me on what is being done. Very professional polite guy. He fixed it. They have recalled the Wire transfer and they went ahead and issued the refund to my account even before he knew the status of the recall from their provider.

It was heading towards a nasty lawyers and regulators confrontation which thankfully for all was avoided.

Partypoker has turned this into a positive Story (Eventually 22 days after the withdrawal was made). However they have a lot of work to do with their frontline support staff with their miscommunication and mythical information they try bluff you off with.

However when the complaint eventually gets up the ladder it is fixed. I would recommend Entropay or Neteller / Skrill withdrawals their Fast Wire Transfer is not fast and not reliable.

Thanks to Colette for your assistance in getting this moved to the right person.
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07-18-2018 , 02:18 AM
click Card Championship:

i still dont see anything...no Team or Player leaderboard...i have a inactive ticket "denmark" ....etc

i played more as i normal Play to push my Team and player leaderboard...but i dont see anything!!!

this and many other things (for example the micro mtt schedule or the clockbar which overlap the Chips in bigger bets, only 2 tablethemes etc) is so pathetic, but hey that is partypoker 2018.- the coming market leader....i'm sure your competitor's are in Panic...

Last edited by florianger; 07-18-2018 at 02:23 AM.
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07-18-2018 , 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by dekka007
For those following my case. It was escalated to their Payments and Risk manager who took over the resolution of my case.

He called me several times as he stated he would to update me on what is being done. Very professional polite guy. He fixed it. They have recalled the Wire transfer and they went ahead and issued the refund to my account even before he knew the status of the recall from their provider.

It was heading towards a nasty lawyers and regulators confrontation which thankfully for all was avoided.

Partypoker has turned this into a positive Story (Eventually 22 days after the withdrawal was made). However they have a lot of work to do with their frontline support staff with their miscommunication and mythical information they try bluff you off with.

However when the complaint eventually gets up the ladder it is fixed. I would recommend Entropay or Neteller / Skrill withdrawals their Fast Wire Transfer is not fast and not reliable.

Thanks to Colette for your assistance in getting this moved to the right person.
You're welcome
Glad is all resolved



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Originally Posted by florianger
click Card Championship:

i still dont see anything...no Team or Player leaderboard...i have a inactive ticket "denmark" ....etc

i played more as i normal Play to push my Team and player leaderboard...but i dont see anything!!!

this and many other things (for example the micro mtt schedule or the clockbar which overlap the Chips in bigger bets, only 2 tablethemes etc) is so pathetic, but hey that is partypoker 2018.- the coming market leader....i'm sure your competitor's are in Panic...
I believe you have clearly misread this promotion
The leaderboard winners were France - all winners have been issued the prize cash and the freeroll tickets will hit account within 24 hours if not already issued
All freerolls take place on Sat 21st at 6pm CET
The "ticket" is not a tourney ticket it simply showed your selected team, in itself it has no value
I am unaware of any leaderboard display issues - have you tried on multiple browsers?

Feedback noted regarding software

Thanks

Colette
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07-18-2018 , 03:07 AM
no, tried no other browser.
you said in another post that the leaderboard issue looks like an language Thing...if i'm correct remember, however.
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07-18-2018 , 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by florianger
click Card Championship:

i still dont see anything...no Team or Player leaderboard...i have a inactive ticket "denmark" ....etc

i played more as i normal Play to push my Team and player leaderboard...but i dont see anything!!!

this and many other things (for example the micro mtt schedule or the clockbar which overlap the Chips in bigger bets, only 2 tablethemes etc) is so pathetic, but hey that is partypoker 2018.- the coming market leader....i'm sure your competitor's are in Panic...
This was by far the best promotion I have ever participated. i had France, played zero hands and received 50$ and the tickets. More promos like this plz.
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07-18-2018 , 06:17 AM
congrats, good for you!

i got nothing, as always.

will not Play anymore!!!
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07-18-2018 , 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by party_Rep
Thanks

Colette
Hi Colette,

My apologies in advance, as this is probably already asked multiple times. I can't find the exact answer to my question, however.

I'm a Hold'Em Manager 2 user and have registered on PartyPoker yesterday. I'm aware that HUDS aren't fully supported by PartyPoker, but don't comprehend entirely to what extend they do work on the site. I intend to play the small to mid stakes Sit & Go's on PartyPoker and would like to know how well the HUD works on Sit & Go's. Could you explain to me how the HUD works on PartyPoker Sit & Go's, and specifically explain what it means for Sit & Go's that PartyPoker tracks the seats that players play in rather than the players itself? Will this, for example, mean that a certain seat in a Sit & Go you just started will have accumulated data of players that played in that seat in previous Sit & Go's you played?

Thanks in advance,
Cavallo Italiano
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07-18-2018 , 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Cavallo Italiano
Hi Colette,

My apologies in advance, as this is probably already asked multiple times. I can't find the exact answer to my question, however.

I'm a Hold'Em Manager 2 user and have registered on PartyPoker yesterday. I'm aware that HUDS aren't fully supported by PartyPoker, but don't comprehend entirely to what extend they do work on the site. I intend to play the small to mid stakes Sit & Go's on PartyPoker and would like to know how well the HUD works on Sit & Go's. Could you explain to me how the HUD works on PartyPoker Sit & Go's, and specifically explain what it means for Sit & Go's that PartyPoker tracks the seats that players play in rather than the players itself? Will this, for example, mean that a certain seat in a Sit & Go you just started will have accumulated data of players that played in that seat in previous Sit & Go's you played?

Thanks in advance,
Cavallo Italiano
HUDs work 100% in SNGs. It will track the player, not the seat.
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07-18-2018 , 11:27 AM
*to be correct:

now i got one 3k freeroll ticket!
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07-18-2018 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dekka007
For those following my case. It was escalated to their Payments and Risk manager who took over the resolution of my case.

He called me several times as he stated he would to update me on what is being done. Very professional polite guy. He fixed it. They have recalled the Wire transfer and they went ahead and issued the refund to my account even before he knew the status of the recall from their provider.

It was heading towards a nasty lawyers and regulators confrontation which thankfully for all was avoided.

Partypoker has turned this into a positive Story (Eventually 22 days after the withdrawal was made). However they have a lot of work to do with their frontline support staff with their miscommunication and mythical information they try bluff you off with.

However when the complaint eventually gets up the ladder it is fixed. I would recommend Entropay or Neteller / Skrill withdrawals their Fast Wire Transfer is not fast and not reliable.

Thanks to Colette for your assistance in getting this moved to the right person.
Great news dekka007! I know how it feels. (not getting your money on time... Ladbrokes...) Thanks for your update!
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07-18-2018 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Lessu
HUDs work 100% in SNGs. It will track the player, not the seat.
Cheers mate. Does this mean it also keeps hands on players after the SnG is finished, or does the data simply vanish because everyone plays anonymously?
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07-19-2018 , 12:11 AM
Is there any chance you can open a fast 5 table between the $1/$2 and $10/$25 stakes?

There is a large gap, could have $2/$5 and $5/$10?
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07-19-2018 , 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Cavallo Italiano
Cheers mate. Does this mean it also keeps hands on players after the SnG is finished, or does the data simply vanish because everyone plays anonymously?
Handhistory are anonimous at cash tables only. At SnGs you will always have handhistories with a real nicknames and full long-time statistics.
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07-19-2018 , 03:54 AM
Well known fact that partypoker botinfected. At micro and low stakes there are only a few lone botter, serious problem start from highstakes, where lobbies are well organized by some bot kingpin. The most notorious botlords are currr and xrab, they own HUSNG lobby at most of the nonPS pokerrooms. They give their GTO bots to weak regulars, who use that as an operator and share their income with the botlord. Xrab (pp screenname: itakee) and currr (pp screenname: tapdancngsquid) has infinite soldiers and BR, the following bot operators are belongs to them:
unb3liev4ble
optimus23prime
kidpokersi
spampanda199
homeless1199
el0nmusk
tothebeatyo
schoveka
doqcha
thesweatshop


Some other botter:
skaiwalkurrr
smashurgrandma
saauron1









Accounts on the list have been multiple reported by parytpoker users, but nothing happened. We kindly ask partypoker to clear their site from botinfection and secure responsible gaming.
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07-19-2018 , 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Gumpti0n
Is there any chance you can open a fast 5 table between the $1/$2 and $10/$25 stakes?

There is a large gap, could have $2/$5 and $5/$10?
Ill share the suggestion with the team
Any further changes will likely take place after the summer season concludes



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Originally Posted by +EVcashout
Well known fact that partypoker botinfected. At micro and low stakes there are only a few lone botter, serious problem start from highstakes, where lobbies are well organized by some bot kingpin. The most notorious botlords are currr and xrab, they own HUSNG lobby at most of the nonPS pokerrooms. They give their GTO bots to weak regulars, who use that as an operator and share their income with the botlord. Xrab (pp screenname: itakee) and currr (pp screenname: tapdancngsquid) has infinite soldiers and BR, the following bot operators are belongs to them:
unb3liev4ble
optimus23prime
kidpokersi
spampanda199
homeless1199
el0nmusk
tothebeatyo
schoveka
doqcha
thesweatshop


Some other botter:
skaiwalkurrr
smashurgrandma
saauron1









Accounts on the list have been multiple reported by parytpoker users, but nothing happened. We kindly ask partypoker to clear their site from botinfection and secure responsible gaming.

Thanks for the info
I have shared with the relevant team for review and investigation


Thanks

Colette
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07-19-2018 , 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by +EVcashout
Well known fact that partypoker botinfected. At micro and low stakes there are only a few lone botter, serious problem start from highstakes, where lobbies are well organized by some bot kingpin. The most notorious botlords are currr and xrab, they own HUSNG lobby at most of the nonPS pokerrooms. They give their GTO bots to weak regulars, who use that as an operator and share their income with the botlord. Xrab (pp screenname: itakee) and currr (pp screenname: tapdancngsquid) has infinite soldiers and BR, the following bot operators are belongs to them:
unb3liev4ble
optimus23prime
kidpokersi
spampanda199
homeless1199
el0nmusk
tothebeatyo
schoveka
doqcha
thesweatshop


Some other botter:
skaiwalkurrr
smashurgrandma
saauron1









Accounts on the list have been multiple reported by parytpoker users, but nothing happened. We kindly ask partypoker to clear their site from botinfection and secure responsible gaming.
Absolutely Cheers for that mate.
As from my experience playing on the site,I've seen these guys numerous times and spectated their matches with the opponents they were playing.
I'm grinding 11s and 2ss HUSNGS at partypoker and I can say that up to 22s in hyper turbos heads up sit n gos I haven't noticed any bot action.
Just regs that are bad and exploitable.
I am sure that +EVcashout can confirm that.

But when you climb up the stakes the names that he is mentioning are on the spot.
Using weird bet sizings for every single spot.Insta clicking and decision making,even when they multitable and all the metrics to show that someone is indeed using a bot.
Especially the Sauuron1,TapDancingSquid,Skaiwalkurr guys I am sure they use bots.
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07-19-2018 , 07:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by +EVcashout
Well known fact that partypoker botinfected. At micro and low stakes there are only a few lone botter, serious problem start from highstakes, where lobbies are well organized by some bot kingpin. The most notorious botlords are currr and xrab, they own HUSNG lobby at most of the nonPS pokerrooms. They give their GTO bots to weak regulars, who use that as an operator and share their income with the botlord. Xrab (pp screenname: itakee) and currr (pp screenname: tapdancngsquid) has infinite soldiers and BR, the following bot operators are belongs to them:
unb3liev4ble
optimus23prime
kidpokersi
spampanda199
homeless1199
el0nmusk
tothebeatyo
schoveka
doqcha
thesweatshop


Some other botter:
skaiwalkurrr
smashurgrandma
saauron1









Accounts on the list have been multiple reported by parytpoker users, but nothing happened. We kindly ask partypoker to clear their site from botinfection and secure responsible gaming.
skaiwalkurrr a Bot LOL Google his name pls.
I have played against him and watch this guy many times and he is not a bot.
I think there are not many bots... why? Because poker at the high levels is never the same and you have to adjust your play against your opponent. And having a bot at such high levels is a real risk. I think you are obsessed by bots! It's really hard to see if someone is playing with a bot if you can't see every hole card. And most of the players you name are high level heads up players. A bot for heads up... nah I don't think so. But I could be wrong as well... I can't see them playing in real of course.
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07-19-2018 , 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BringThePain
skaiwalkurrr a Bot LOL Google his name pls.
I have played against him and watch this guy many times and he is not a bot.
Are you actually this dumb? Public knowledge that old school PS skaiwalkurrr is off the grid and not playing poker anymore. Hint: he's not the same guy.


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I think there are not many bots... why? Because poker at the high levels is never the same and you have to adjust your play against your opponent. And having a bot at such high levels is a real risk. I think you are obsessed by bots! It's really hard to see if someone is playing with a bot if you can't see every hole card. And most of the players you name are high level heads up players. A bot for heads up... nah I don't think so. But I could be wrong as well... I can't see them playing in real of course.
Are you somehow connected to this bot ring? Again common knowledge that a lot of these guys (currr, sauron1, and so on) have been banned from PS and are running a ton of sites inc partypoker, wpn, and other eurosites with their bot rings. Denying this is literally laughable and shows you know nothing about the husng landscape.
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07-19-2018 , 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Duncelanas
Are you actually this dumb? Public knowledge that old school PS skaiwalkurrr is off the grid and not playing poker anymore. Hint: he's not the same guy.
Yes i'm dumb... and you are smart. So he is off the grid and not playing poker anymore?!
http://www.officialpokerrankings.com...06C8D.html?t=2
This is not the only mistake you make! Let me learn you something... When you don't know something, you aren't dumb! You are dumb the way you behave...

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Originally Posted by Duncelanas
Are you somehow connected to this bot ring? Again common knowledge that a lot of these guys (currr, sauron1, and so on) have been banned from PS and are running a ton of sites inc partypoker, wpn, and other eurosites with their bot rings. Denying this is literally laughable and shows you know nothing about the husng landscape.
LOL

No i'm not connected but I like to see things logical... Most of the high level players moved to other rooms because of the Pokerstars rakeback reduction.
https://www.vip-grinders.com/pokerst...m-cut-rakeback
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07-19-2018 , 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by BringThePain
skaiwalkurrr a Bot LOL Google his name pls.
I have played against him and watch this guy many times and he is not a bot.
I think there are not many bots... why? Because poker at the high levels is never the same and you have to adjust your play against your opponent. And having a bot at such high levels is a real risk. I think you are obsessed by bots! It's really hard to see if someone is playing with a bot if you can't see every hole card. And most of the players you name are high level heads up players. A bot for heads up... nah I don't think so. But I could be wrong as well... I can't see them playing in real of course.
Man, partypoker skaiwalkur nothing to do with Ben Cherif the original skai, just a random bot using his screenname.
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07-19-2018 , 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by BringThePain
Yes i'm dumb... and you are smart. So he is off the grid and not playing poker anymore?!
http://www.officialpokerrankings.com...06C8D.html?t=2
This is not the only mistake you make! Let me learn you something... When you don't know something, you aren't dumb! You are dumb the way you behave...
Wow, he's played 50 games all year and 0 husngs. You really proved me wrong there

As +evcashout has said, non-ps skaiwalkurrr is a different guy.

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No i'm not connected but I like to see things logical... Most of the high level players moved to other rooms because of the Pokerstars rakeback reduction.
https://www.vip-grinders.com/pokerst...m-cut-rakeback
Wrong. You clearly understand nothing about husng rake if you think that's relevant. PS rake cuts cost non-sne husng players under 0.5% roi, and multiple of the big players mentioned in the post were banned from PS for botting.

I've been a husng player for 5+ years now and am a midstakes husng grinder who talks to tons of people playing on many different sites. You're just wrong here and loudly proclaiming your ignorance as "seeing things logical" -- you're just wrong, this is a massive problem and it's been killing hypers for human players everywhere -- even on PS before they literally hired a specialist from the husng community to start doing something about bots + banning + investigating tons of players.

It's not dumb that you don't know this, it's dumb when you call people far more knowledgeable than you about the situation illogical fear mongers despite knowing literally nothing about how advanced husng bots are or anything about the husng ecosystem. Look at sharkscope hyper hu volume leaderboards -- how many guys on ACR or PP are there at nosebleeds? Hint: it's from bots battling each other to see which crew would take over the lobbies, not because tons of recreational players care so much about the extra 0.4% ROI from rakeback.
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07-19-2018 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Duncelanas
Wow, he's played 50 games all year and 0 husngs. You really proved me wrong there

As +evcashout has said, non-ps skaiwalkurrr is a different guy.



Wrong. You clearly understand nothing about husng rake if you think that's relevant. PS rake cuts cost non-sne husng players under 0.5% roi, and multiple of the big players mentioned in the post were banned from PS for botting.

I've been a husng player for 5+ years now and am a midstakes husng grinder who talks to tons of people playing on many different sites. You're just wrong here and loudly proclaiming your ignorance as "seeing things logical" -- you're just wrong, this is a massive problem and it's been killing hypers for human players everywhere -- even on PS before they literally hired a specialist from the husng community to start doing something about bots + banning + investigating tons of players.

It's not dumb that you don't know this, it's dumb when you call people far more knowledgeable than you about the situation illogical fear mongers despite knowing literally nothing about how advanced husng bots are or anything about the husng ecosystem. Look at sharkscope hyper hu volume leaderboards -- how many guys on ACR or PP are there at nosebleeds? Hint: it's from bots battling each other to see which crew would take over the lobbies, not because tons of recreational players care so much about the extra 0.4% ROI from rakeback.
Ok you are right and I'm wrong.
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07-19-2018 , 10:35 AM
I think this is in vain, even some 5 year old kids know about these botlords that control the non Pokerstars lobbies, if those sites wanted to do something about it, they would have already done it. Though i guess some publicity and negative PR can help and force the sites to finally take some measures.
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07-19-2018 , 10:48 AM
There are many big indicators one can notice when they're dealing with a criminal network.

At party poker you have a choice between being colluded on the anonymous tables or being HUD'ed at the fast forward tables. The fact they only allow a screen name change once in a lifetime is further proof of this.
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