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01-29-2018 , 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Party_Rep
The team who sent your last email correspondence will be able to assist
Customer service - including the various departments - are best placed to advise
You could try live chat or reply to the last email asking for a call
I have no alternative contact details to share - sorry




Ok - glad all is resolved and confirmed

Thanks

Colette

Why don’t you read the above posts yet again outlining the unfair games you are allowing to run. Are you able to share any intelligent insight into how your security department is so incompetent at protecting games it seems it is actually corrupt
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01-29-2018 , 09:54 AM
Players Pieceoffluck and Volkanoff play EVERY game of 20$ hero together 4 handed

Both from ukraine. Can someone look into their play or has party poker handcuffed the abikities for us to do this

I find it hard to believe these two players are not doing what everyone else drom these piss poor countries is allowed to get away with and cheat ( belarus, ukraine, russia)
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01-29-2018 , 11:00 AM
I am playing in partypoker the last two weeks. I played only in pokerstars the last 4 years because my games werent offered by any site. I switched to mtts now and I was planning to grind in your site regularly. My only experience is in Pokerstars software and how pokerstars operated. I have some suggestions to make

1)

You recently signed Ike Haxton. This is what pokerstars used to do and I dont think it had success. The reasoning to sign a team pro is to gain new players at your site or if you have decent traffic among all stakes attract more recreationals chasing the high stakes dream. In my opinion you should invest to people involving in social media to attract recreationals in your site. Tonka, Veldhuis, Staples or find someone who will actually be fun to watch, sponsor him and broadcast every day. You either need a person who has a fan base to promote your site or a person who will work every day in twich in order to do that. Youtubers / twitchers are the most valuable to promote your site. In tournaments your ability factor is +6 at least on stakes of 55$+ That means your site lacks of recreational players and I cant think a better way to promote a site than what I recommended

2)

When I started playing in pokerstars everyone was saying ''I want to be a supernova elite'' Many people tried many succeed but even more failed. You know what is the trick with Elite? People (both recs and regs) were having something to achieve within a year. Pokerstars gave them a goal. Moreover Pokerstars was clever because they knew if we want to achieve elite we cant really grind in any other sites because elite itself is a huge grind. My recommendation is give something for people to commit in your site. A heavily promoted similar to elite vip would be amazing. Your cashback program is good. The issue is that a rec or even a reg will grind a week take cashback and then look in another site with better promo the next week. But if you have a yearly vip like supernova / supernova elite it will be very hard not to commit

3)

Even though I was planning to grind in party poker mainly, chosing you over your competitors, I read a new post every 2-3 days about botting/collusion/cheating in your platform. Even regs seem to not feel safe playing there and it will be very bad for your reputation if the word about low security standards in party poker is out there. It will move away most recs who already think that something is going on in online poker. Botting/cheating is a universal issue and I think the companies must work together. If a player is banned in pokerstars for cheating why he should allowed playing in partypoker? Share your personal details, check ids and even take legal actions against people. Cheaters damage the company after all. I firmly believe you should work with Pokerstars for this. Not because their security is better but security will radically improve if you share the knowledge on how and who cheated. Not usernames but actual id's must be shared and banned permamently

4)

The mtt filters are pretty bad imo. I unfiltered bounties but there are still there because they are overlapping in some other category. I cant filter speeds neither choose NLH only tournaments. I have to see FLH because it is a holdem game but most important the filters for the buy ins are quite poor. I dont understand why there isnt a custom buy in filter

The positive is that you listen to people. I personally like PSKO and i do think it will attract more recreationals. Regs will whine but they will adjust. That being said variety is important The most important is to bring more recs at the moment. Props to your tournament team who is genuinly try to impove the schedule

I see people protesting about the changes. Everything is trial and error. I can see enough regular games and bounties. Bounties attract more recs because they are more fun to play and ability factor in sharkscope reveals it

Belthazorrrr

Last edited by belthazorrrrr; 01-29-2018 at 11:06 AM.
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01-29-2018 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by fulltard
Here's another player who has been reported in this thread several times last 12 months.

I would love to hear from you party rep: How it's possible ?

Hi. How this hand proves wht opp use converter ?
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01-29-2018 , 12:15 PM
^ you can see the screen names ? DUHHH

Party security team is probably wondering the same lol
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01-29-2018 , 01:10 PM
Has it crossed your mind that the reason party don't care is because these players work for them?
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01-29-2018 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by KemiKings
Has it crossed your mind that the reason party don't care is because these players work for them?
I'm not so sure that's the case, but it would be entirely possible.
Once, they hired a serbian team to "test some functionalities" in the real money playerpool so I wouldn't be surprised if they had their own team of house-players .
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01-29-2018 , 03:56 PM
Would not surprise me if all the sites had house players or bots. Having said that, if normal players are able to make money from online poker then there's no reason to stop.
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01-29-2018 , 11:23 PM
I stopped playing at Partypoker when I found out that there is a 2+2 member who has a group of people playing MTTs on Party. I can't compete with teams of players. And this guy is sanctioned by party? wtf
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01-30-2018 , 01:20 AM
Welcome to the world of online poker, bent as hell!
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01-30-2018 , 04:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fulltard
Here's another player who has been reported in this thread several times last 12 months.
I would love to hear from you party rep: How it's possible ?

Your concerns have been shared with the relevant team for invesitgation


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Originally Posted by belthazorrrrr
I am playing in partypoker the last two weeks. I played only in pokerstars the last 4 years because my games werent offered by any site. I switched to mtts now and I was planning to grind in your site regularly. My only experience is in Pokerstars software and how pokerstars operated. I have some suggestions to make

1)

You recently signed Ike Haxton. This is what pokerstars used to do and I dont think it had success. The reasoning to sign a team pro is to gain new players at your site or if you have decent traffic among all stakes attract more recreationals chasing the high stakes dream. In my opinion you should invest to people involving in social media to attract recreationals in your site. Tonka, Veldhuis, Staples or find someone who will actually be fun to watch, sponsor him and broadcast every day. You either need a person who has a fan base to promote your site or a person who will work every day in twich in order to do that. Youtubers / twitchers are the most valuable to promote your site. In tournaments your ability factor is +6 at least on stakes of 55$+ That means your site lacks of recreational players and I cant think a better way to promote a site than what I recommended

2)

When I started playing in pokerstars everyone was saying ''I want to be a supernova elite'' Many people tried many succeed but even more failed. You know what is the trick with Elite? People (both recs and regs) were having something to achieve within a year. Pokerstars gave them a goal. Moreover Pokerstars was clever because they knew if we want to achieve elite we cant really grind in any other sites because elite itself is a huge grind. My recommendation is give something for people to commit in your site. A heavily promoted similar to elite vip would be amazing. Your cashback program is good. The issue is that a rec or even a reg will grind a week take cashback and then look in another site with better promo the next week. But if you have a yearly vip like supernova / supernova elite it will be very hard not to commit

3)

Even though I was planning to grind in party poker mainly, chosing you over your competitors, I read a new post every 2-3 days about botting/collusion/cheating in your platform. Even regs seem to not feel safe playing there and it will be very bad for your reputation if the word about low security standards in party poker is out there. It will move away most recs who already think that something is going on in online poker. Botting/cheating is a universal issue and I think the companies must work together. If a player is banned in pokerstars for cheating why he should allowed playing in partypoker? Share your personal details, check ids and even take legal actions against people. Cheaters damage the company after all. I firmly believe you should work with Pokerstars for this. Not because their security is better but security will radically improve if you share the knowledge on how and who cheated. Not usernames but actual id's must be shared and banned permamently

4)

The mtt filters are pretty bad imo. I unfiltered bounties but there are still there because they are overlapping in some other category. I cant filter speeds neither choose NLH only tournaments. I have to see FLH because it is a holdem game but most important the filters for the buy ins are quite poor. I dont understand why there isnt a custom buy in filter

The positive is that you listen to people. I personally like PSKO and i do think it will attract more recreationals. Regs will whine but they will adjust. That being said variety is important The most important is to bring more recs at the moment. Props to your tournament team who is genuinly try to impove the schedule

I see people protesting about the changes. Everything is trial and error. I can see enough regular games and bounties. Bounties attract more recs because they are more fun to play and ability factor in sharkscope reveals it

Belthazorrrr
1. Pro players and ambassadors help us reach out to the player community and bridge the gap between ourselves and our players
Our ambassadors work closely with the teams to share their knowledge and player feedback to help improve our site There is great value in having a dedicated, experienced team of players in our team alongside the marketing benefit and reach these players have in the global community

The Twitch players you recommend are all PS players and play via their own channels - our own Twitch channel looks to offer something different with recreational players and coverage from our global LIVE events including SHR cash games and our MILLIONS tour

2. VIP programs such as Elite/Nova etc are a personal preference and not open to all Our cashback reward system offers weekly rakeback in the form of cash directly to our players accounts Alongside our regular promotions IMO we offer a very competitive package and will remain for the time being - we have no plans in the near future to change this

3. Regarding BOTS and accusations of "cheating" on our site - to some degree all sites will have BOTs and players who will try to break the rules - we have a dedicated team working around the clock to deal with such issues- concerns can be sent directly to the team and all issues will be fully investigated We have recently increased team numbers and improved our systems We would never share any players info or data with other players or sites due to our data privacy laws hence your suggestion above is not possible

4. Filters are on the roadmap for improvement alongside other software improvements - hopefully, to be implemented in the coming weeks though I have no exact date to share

Regarding PSKOS, again its a personal preference - some love these games and some hate them Following recent business trends these games are growing in popularity and we will offer them in our schedule The plan is to find a balance in the regular schedule where we offer something for all

We will in the coming week have some news to share regarding a new schedule (launched hopefully on the 5th) with various themes aiming to offer a consistent, competitive and varied schedule for all removing current cannibalism and offering a simple, user-friendly layout and experience



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Originally Posted by Adjusted
I stopped playing at Partypoker when I found out that there is a 2+2 member who has a group of people playing MTTs on Party. I can't compete with teams of players. And this guy is sanctioned by party? wtf

If you are referring to Patrick Leonard - Pads has been with us for some time and brings a wealth of experience and knowledge to our player panel
His integrity and dedication to party is second to known and he is a great asset to the team
I won't speak on Pads behalf, however, I can assure you he runs a tight ship and his stable play on our games as do many, many other stables and groups
I see no issues and don't believe there is any evidence to suggest any wrongdoing from any of the players and to claim otherwise if unfounded and unsupported by any evidence what so ever


Thanks

Colette
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01-30-2018 , 08:01 AM
Saying you have a "dedicated team" out there trying to crack down bots/cheaters is just straight up a LIE, if people present you proof of cheating in this thread and you don't take any action (like one year ago.) If that "team" can't even take a look at this thread, draw conclusiouns and take actions they either don't exist or should be fired immediately.
Or you can bring HandHistories back, which doesn't give cheaters and advantage anymore.
Regarding bots: rangeban Russia/Belarus/Ukraine and this solves itself to 95% and wouldn't hurt the action on your site at all.

Please, I don't know how much influence you have, but try to pass our suggestions on with some weight, this might sound arrogant, but at the end of the day the average midstakes grinder seems to know so much more about the games than the average employee at Party. And what we are asking for is the best for the site too, since the more the word gets out about cheaters/bots the less recreational players will play on Party and the more it will die.
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01-30-2018 , 08:43 AM
Sorry Collette but your response is inadequate at best. The names i refered were examples. There are other players aswell and if you really want to catch up with your competitors you have to use new era methods and not 10 years old

Your rakeback is competitve but doesnt commit one playing in your site as i already explained

When i read a new post every three days about cheating in partypoker but you defend your security team, there is something fundamental wrong with partypoker

Seems like you are trying more to defend partypoker than understand the root of each suggestion. Fine by me. I ll just mix sites than having only one even though other regs share the same opinion as myself
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01-30-2018 , 08:45 AM
Oh give it a break all of you, too many speculations, not enough solid evidence. I am sure PP are doing their best to stop collusions and bots. All sites are struggling with the same problems. 888 even got one step further, banning players who are innocent. I dont want to see that on Party.
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01-30-2018 , 08:55 AM


This is evidence and not a speculation. You should definitely search what speculation means or you should do your research first. Anyway it seems pointless to interact in a support forum and i understand why many people not doing it
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01-30-2018 , 09:33 AM
It's funny that the whole point making it "impossible" to use huds in regular tables was to make it easier for the recs. And now it's even worse for the recs.
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01-30-2018 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by belthazorrrrr


This is evidence and not a speculation. You should definitely search what speculation means or you should do your research first. Anyway it seems pointless to interact in a support forum and i understand why many people not doing it
Maybe I'm ignorant, but I can't help but wonder what exactly is that evidence of?
Not saying you're right or wrong in any way, but just wondering what exactly you're trying to say with that picture. All I'm seeing is a hand history posted on weaktight...
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01-30-2018 , 10:08 AM
if that hand really happened (security team can check it easy i guess) it is evidence that one of these 6 players using some hand converter, but its not evidence its exactly hero who used it

and also i think collete should say more about diamond club which is something like supernova elite on party poker which commit you to rake at least 100k usd in one year
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01-30-2018 , 10:08 AM
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Not saying you're right or wrong in any way, but just wondering what exactly you're trying to say with that picture. All I'm seeing is a hand history posted on weaktight...
Without using a converter you can't see the players names.
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01-30-2018 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by belthazorrrrr


This is evidence and not a speculation. You should definitely search what speculation means or you should do your research first. Anyway it seems pointless to interact in a support forum and I understand why many people not doing it
This is why I stopped offering advice a couple years ago. Every time I tried to give a suggestion I was told why I was wrong etc.

We are people who love the game. We play every day. We've seen many poker clients come and go. We know what we find annoying when we grind all day 6 or 7 days a week. I've seen the same complaints in some threads for years on end. It's a joke. I don't bother to offer advice any more.

Jesus Christ, I mean I have to pay for a 3rd party app to be able to see the chip counts when I play on Party; the numbers are so small you can't see them unless you buy the PartyCaption app. They couldn't even fix that in the last 5 years ffs. We've been asking for a resize-able lobby since Christ was a cowboy. We still don't have that. We have 2 choices, Maximized or too small to see. Jesus ****ing Christ. They're obviously using cheap coders from some 3rd world ****hole that don't know **** from shinola.

I could go on...
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01-30-2018 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by viking1
Oh give it a break all of you, too many speculations, not enough solid evidence. I am sure PP are doing their best to stop collusions and bots. All sites are struggling with the same problems. 888 even got one step further, banning players who are innocent. I dont want to see that on Party.
Why are you posting in this thread if you obviously have absolutely no clue what we are talking about?
Yeah, some bot talk is only speculation, but after playing midstakes now for 6 years straight I know when players are legit or not. And if I had access to HHs I could probably even proof it.
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01-30-2018 , 01:02 PM
Tbh I think the line about data privacy is inaccurate. Just an excuse to avoid paying any compensation. There are a number of suspect bots in MTTs that are no longer playing and zero refunds were issued.

Only time I was refunded for cheating on party was because farseerfinland found out about a collusion group so party couldn't avoid paying out.
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01-30-2018 , 02:02 PM
Oh wow i didnt know that. Thanks for the info
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01-30-2018 , 02:34 PM
login button doesn't work for me today lol, I guess I'm not playing party tonight
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01-30-2018 , 05:15 PM
^^
yup

"connecting to server...."
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