Timing, country (obv lol), some sizings, and just generally feels like playing the exact same player. Regardless if I'm right or wrong, there's so many bots playing at Party now that it doesn't really matter. What have you N0t1ced that contradicts my belief if I might ask?

BOTS AND COLUSSION. There must be hundreds but the easiest to detect. Player of Nicks Blackkat95 and Lolitalita in 6 max 10 max. Buy in $ 5.50

Glad you've noticed Grog.
Having quit playing poker for a full-time 'proper' job I rarely play much nowadays.
However when I played full-time I was in a Skype group with Lessu and a couple of others and we were proactive at spotting bots reporting them to Party who would then subsequently investigate further and then ban them.
So I'm very familiar with what stats to look for in identifying bots.
Every time I play a session (typically 25-100 NL FF) the player pool is just full of bots.
It's just no full playing against tables full of non-tilting solid bots cheating me out of my money. I've made the decision to quit until Party get the situation under control.
Party seem to currently just take a reactive approach. A player reports a bot, Party may ban them. Makes no difference, another two will take it's place.
Party rep please let me know when your site is bot-free and I might play again.

Hundreds? There are not even hundreds of regs in those games.

I play a lot of NL100 FF,what must I look out for in detecting bot patterns?
I agree that PP only investigates if player alert them to it,I would really like to know more about their work,I never received a single penny of compensation,alltough I am also certain there must me bots in the FF pools.
One way to make it more trustworthy would be to show the country of each player.Because if you detect some botlike behaviour on a few players and they all come from Ukraine(just an example) then that would be another indication.

Hi,

Lolitalita and Blackkat are legit players. Blackkat is just crushing hard. Lolita is also a winning reg who plays a lot of volume. I haven't really looked for collusion, however I don't see them in relation to each other.
There are numerous other (russian) bots in these games though, however I haven't seen any of those for some days now, so there is a chance my numerous reports were successful at last
I play these games regulary as well btw.

Unlikely to be collusion as despite it being a game type where regs will play each other tons - only 5,000 games are shared between the two accounts (one has 65,000+ lifetime and the other 23,000 lifetime).


Now is the blacKKat95 account which is new this year, yet has played over 20,000 games a bot? That is probably a more interesting question, but the results and volume are not that strange for a human as well, a 9% ROIish at an average stake of $5. Not an easy grind.

I believe Blackkat used to play up to $60 Fifty50s on Stars before switching to Party. He's from colombia so there is a chance he is just grinding these out as his main income. Considering this, I don't consider that volume as immense, playing the max. allowed tables on party he gets roughly 22-24 games per hour. He is also not doing anything special, however he is rock solid, by far the most solid in terms of ICM implications at these stakes IMO.

Lolita I was at first considering he\she could be a bot (however not the typical partypoker bot), as this player was ridiculously tight for quite a while when I joined these games. However, I see him\her adjusting in specific situations (for example open shoving rather than opening to regs that will 3bet wide on the open). Usually a bot (at least those I have encountered at lowstakes so far) are not able to adjust to a big extend.

Basically anyone playing 23/18 is a bot.

Re: Bot Compensation

Back story, I reported a suspected bot several months ago that I played MANY sng's with ONLY in the $11USD 6-max turbos.

Just recently I have noticed that they are no longer playing and sharkscope has confirmed they haven't played a game on party in about a month.

I just recently received an email from party stating an amount of $11.xxCAD has been added to my account. Curious as to why, they tell me because I played with this bot player and this is my compensation.

My question, how is my compensation less then 1 buy in when I know I played many games vs this player, and he literally open shoved every hand once HU, and he absolutely wrecked me running wayyy over ev mostly in HU, but also overall in general.

Colette any info on this? I emailed back and forth several times with support and I'm not getting answers. Just the usual pre written replies, dodging the questions at hand.


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I received an email from Party stating that I received fifty cents deposited into my account as cashback, based on how much I played last week.

Problems with this:
* I barely played last week, not even close to enough to reach the 25 points required
* As far as I can tell, the smallest amount you receive in cashback is $5
* My balance hasn't changed

The email appears to be legitimate. Was this a glitch or something else?

It's a glitch.

I got 2 emails today.

#1: Hi xxxx,

Just a quick note to let you know we’ve put $xxx.xx into your account. (significant amount)

Congrats on a well-played week!


#2: Hi xxxx,

We emailed you earlier today with an incorrect cashback amount. Unfortunately, we included your points balance instead of your actual cashback amount.

We can confirm that the correct cashback amount you received was $xx.xx

Apologies for any confusion this may have caused and we hope you enjoy your cashback.

Congrats on a well-played week!

well,that should make it easy for PP...

on a more serious note,there are some players in NL100 pool which have very similar stats and playing style.
but I got no idea who is a bot or not and it is really up to PP to clean up their act to get a better reputation.

Based on how they treated my reports in micro/lowstakes SNG "easy" is not easy enough for them.
However, I have to say all the accounts I reported all stopped playing on 17th of november (except one account who switched from DoN to 9man SNGs (just in time?)). They never had close to such an inactive phase.
I really do hope party has acted against those accounts and that they did not just manage to cash out.
I also found another 2 accounts (ukrain this time though, not russian, for a change) that play exactly the same and that I am 99.9% sure something is up with them. They include volume ranging from $5.50-$22 DoNs.
I won't bother filing a report as long as I expect party to not act properly. However, if anyone playing these games want more infos, feel free to pm me.

FWIW I play tourneys on Party but cash elsewhere because of all the reports I'v heard of bots in the FF games, and because I don't want to play the normal cash games with no HUD if other players are going to cheat and use one.

Hello party_rep

have already asked once before
I play Double or Nothing 6 players table and 10 players table

Please make the blinds structure faster 5 minutes is to slow for turbo.

this is the blinds structure of the Turbo Fifty/50/Double or nothing sng on pokerstars

So much better

The faster blind strucure - isn't necessarily "better" but yes, I agree it would make a lot of sense, especially in 6max DoNs. A lot of the time you are on the bubble with the shortstack being over 20BBs deep, so fastening the structure in 6max DoNs I would agree with this suggestion. For 10max it is fine IMO or make it just slightly faster.

Do you plan to open store with a Party branded merch (t-shirt, bags etc.)?

+1 to this. They used to run just fine with the faster structure.

Well I am certainly not going to post why they are different, in terms of playing styles, in a public forum. Lets just say there are many ways they differ.

The reason why I pulled you up on this is not just because I don't think they are bots, and certainly not the same bot, its because I think just outing SNs without consideration and collaboration is detrimental for the bot debate. Any mug can see a couple of locations that come from problem areas and throw out a SN, but in doing so it dilutes the argument. When we outed the tens of bots playing on ipoker 600nl+ it was done over time, with numerous people involved. This was when bots were like flashing beckons among regs and recs.

How are party meant to react if we all just throw out a few different random names? If you want to PM me to discuss this further that's fine

should add more missions for players imo

no more random happy hours? according to twitter/facebook there was no random happy hour yesterday

Can someone explain why sometimes i get these free tickets when i click on my tournament tickets? I got a few of those powerfest tickets like 22 dollar ones etc.


Are these random or not?

The powerfest tickets were issued some time ago
Can you confirm username and/or provide a screenshot and I can look into it
You can PM myself the details

If you are responding to the Risk team they are the correct people to address your concerns
I will ask them to review your contact history and follow up
Can you PM me the username, please


The email was indeed from us however the info in the content was not - we followed up with an apology email and the correct amount of the relevant players
Apologies for any confusion


I have shared the feedback with the team


No
We only provide merchandise at our LIVE events


I will follow up with the social teams
These should be pushed daily


Thanks

Colette