PartyRep,

Can you respond to this?

I am someone who has raked a huge amount on Party at 2/4 - 5/10 over the last 3 years. This is a ridiculous cash grab that is going to further alienate your customer base and make 3/6 and 5/10 virtually unplayable. Why would you play 3/6...ever? Note that rake at 3/6 and 5/10 has gone up a HUGE amount.

Partyrep,

You have dodged many questions over the months about Party's "fix" for the sitout problem/table blocking at higher stakes. This is going to make it much, much worse. There is now a very strong incentive to NOT start games above 2/4. Games are going to be even more filled with 5 or 6 regs sitting out and waiting for a fish to join so they can sit in. Recreational player confidence will be further lost. Feel free to PM me to discuss this further over phone/IM or whatever. I have been a long time palladium member on party and am very familiar with the views of online regulars who play on party.

Tim

I hate to say this but if you go to a network like Merge the Nits are still gonna fold everyhand and not make the games any better even with the rake changes. It puts more money in party's pocket. They have investors that want a better return.

This is the worst ***OFFICIAL Insertrandompokersitehere Thread*** ever.

hi guys,

some of us in the MSNL Party regs thread are planning to sitout on 18 3/6+ tables to protest against the new rake increase. It will be happening when the change comes into effect at midnight on the 24th of August Partypoker time, so 11h20m from now.

It would be great if some of you guys could join us regardless of whether you play mid-high stakes, as this is really bad for the poker economy on party as a whole.

Can someone please tell how many people partypoker gets on a daily basis,and how many at their busiest.Back in 07 when they banned americans i remember sunday nights at 150k people.Have they been growing?thx

Wanted to echo ITSOVER9000's thoughts and encourage all to sitout on as many tables of 3/6+ in protest over the increases.

Even if you play lower or higher stakes you are certainly at risk of having Party do the same thing to the stakes that you play. This is a massive increase in rake that is way out of line with other poker sites.

lol no

i play $400 at but in for the sitout

Peak is usually ~27k

in for the sitout, nice idea

lol in

Not the case. If all players are equal, all will lose due to rake. Good regs don't make you money unless you can exploit them. Hence the greater popularity of fish.

Breakeven multitabling hudbots, quite possibly. Perhaps Party will miss them if they go away. But I'm not clear why I should.

Lol at players getting mad for the the method change, you prolly are shortstackers and by definition, don't deserve to live anyway. I'm really hyped about that change, ss and 18tabling nits are gonna move for sure.

Now for the 5$ thingy, oh well what a disgusting decision, let the support spamming begins

I would wager that unless you play >30 VPIP (at 6-max) that the change from dealt to weight contributed is going to hurt your rakeback bottom line.

Humm, I dont think so tbh, if you take table vpip avg I guess it's always somewhere like 25% max ?!? So if you are at 25+ then you win?

Not sure if my math are right and that's how it's suppose to be calculate tho

Plus we were paying rakeback to shortstackers who only plays small pots and such, def think every reg playing like 22+ vpip are gonna win out of this

I just remember on FTP, my VPIP was ~27 at 6 max tables and I still took a small hit to my rakeback when they switched to weight contributed from dealt. Hopefully it's different on party.

Ya unless are you > 30vpip at 6max I'd imagine you are taking a hit.

well...the sit out seems like a good idea.....maybe I can sit out on the waitlist....46 tables at nl100 right now and 30 tables have 5+ players on a waitlist...so unreal.

You're way off here and I can completely understand why. I was posting the exact same thing in the FTP thread when they announced their change having a good laugh at the nits at the rat holers. I was playing about 25VPIP at the time and pretty wacky postflop as well. Well lo and behold, my rakeback dropped by just under 20%. And the games didn't get better. The nits still nitted it up even though they earned a bit less, same for the ratholers.

You're not going to see more rakeback unless you're playing like 30+ VPIP and constantly building massive pots postflop, or in other words unless you're a losing player. And losing players of course are going to go use their increased points to buy some pointless 5% effective rakeback crap in the store. In the end everybody gets screwed besides the site. This is nothing but a disguised rake increase paired with a blatant rake increase.

^this

popers you don't know what you are talking about.

Well im a FR player with a vpip of 17~20%. If I notice a lower hourly rb im out of party. I'll play my 50 000 hands/month somewhere else

oh well fk our live then, curious to see my numbers when it happens tomorrow tho, few years ago I was playing on ongame and ipoker at the same time, before thes Essence thing that ongame is now using.

Ongame being contributed and ipoker dealt, I always felt I was receiving more on ongame playing 26%vpip or something, cause I mean, unless you're playing nl10 it's pretty rare to play with many donks with 50%+ and such, so as soon as you are slighty more active than the table avg you are suppose to receive a bigger share with the new method no?

I'm in. I play heads up and paying quadruple what Pokerstars charges is pretty ridiculous.

-Carlos

noone seems to be doing it yet