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Old 10-17-2014, 08:38 AM   #1
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***OFFICIAL Partypoker new feature discussion Thread***

Hi 2+2,

Welcome to the first of what will hopefully become a common thread. Based on demand from our Official thread, we would like to use this thread to have a pro-active conversation about upcoming features and changes to our poker rooms.
Some guidelines on how to maximize the efficiency of this thread and keep it on track -
  1. Please keep posts on topic - we are looking to discuss specific topics. For anything else we have the Official Threads, ROW, NJ.
  2. Try to provide constructive feedback instead of just ‘this sucks’ or ‘this is great’
  3. None of the proposed features, solutions and changes mentioned here have ETA’s and we will not be committing on delivery dates.

To kick off the discussion, we have 2 hot topics we’d like to start with -

Removing player info from lobby
The grouped lobby is the default, but we still offer the opportunity to table select through a more traditional lobby. While the traditional lobby is geared towards more experienced players, we still want to optimize the experience and remove clutter. There is a lot of information to digest as is.
One such identified piece of information is the player info box situated in the right hand sidebar which lists player nicknames and stack size.

For it to be really useful as a table selection tool one either needs to recognize the players by nickname or somehow use an external tool. While some of these tools are not necessarily prohibited at this time we’re not obliged or incentivized to support them either. Given that, the pro of reducing clutter and freeing up space for better use outweighs the cons.
As such we plan to remove the table list player info box from the main lobby.

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Auto post blinds
When a player joins the table today the process is slow and cumbersome.
A new player sits at a table, they wait until they get into a position where they can post, they are asked to post or wait for big blind. Player is given 10 seconds to make a decision. If the player doesn’t have Auto-Post Blinds selected at the table that’s potentially another delay when that player is asked to post.

Assumptions
  • When a player takes a seat they want to start playing
  • Players already seated would like the above delays to be reduced/removed
We want to change this flow – no more checking/unchecking Auto-Post Blinds, this option is enabled for all players and cannot be turned off, all players will auto-post in all Cash games.

When a new player sits at a table they are given 1 button, ‘Play Now’, with some supporting text. When pressed the player will post a blind at the next available opportunity, position doesn't matter as long as the player is in a valid seat to start playing from.
If the player doesn't opt to press the ‘Play Now’ button they won’t be prompted to post out of position at the start of any hand but when the player gets into the big blind seat they will automatically post.



If you sit out but then sit back in without missing any blinds you will just start playing again in the next hand. If while sat out you miss some blinds, when you sit back in you will once again get the ‘Play Now’ button – pressing this will post your dead blind and deal you in. Don’t press the button and you will come back in on your next big blind.

That’s the two features that we would like to hear feedback on first and hopefully stimulate constructive debate on how to best implement them.

Thanks,
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Old 10-19-2014, 06:21 AM   #2
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tablescannerturbo wont work
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Old 10-19-2014, 06:58 AM   #3
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I'm all for the removing of the table list player info box from the lobby if it has the effect of making table selection software, and most of all SEATSCRIPTS, not working anymore. That said the argument used "reducing clutter and freeing up space" is a little bit lame
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Old 10-19-2014, 07:12 AM   #4
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I'm all for the removing of the table list player info box from the lobby if it has the effect of making table selection software, and most of all SEATSCRIPTS, not working anymore. That said the argument used "reducing clutter and freeing up space" is a little bit lame
It won't stop dedicated seating-scripters: all that's needed is to run a separate copy of the client on another machine (or in a virtual machine) and have it constantly open up tables to see who it seated, etc.

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tablescannerturbo wont work
It also makes future attempts at segregation harder to detect by players...

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Old 10-19-2014, 10:53 AM   #5
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Not sure how many years you are behind the other sites with the auto-post blind feature. It's obv good and needed feature and I hope your software team manages to code it without creating any more bugs like normally.

But before you introduce any new features, how about fix the current bugs, the biggest one being the graphics bug/crash that MANY are experiencing and after over 3 weeks, you still haven't done anything about it. The incompetence is mindblowing.

And don't use your customers as beta testers...
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Old 10-19-2014, 11:33 AM   #6
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in order of importance:

1 bug free software
2 bigger font sizes for player names, bet sizes and stack sizes
3 bet sizing options that are clear (the 2x, 3x, 4x thing you have now is absurd, most people want options between a min raise and a 3x pre, and % relative to pot size post flop)
4 table sizing that can be minimized to same size as all other major sites

nothing else is particularly important until 1 and 2 are sorted.
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Old 10-19-2014, 12:02 PM   #7
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Btw, how about some **** normal buttons? X2 X3 X4 are you **** kidding me? It doesn't make sense

just make it possible to have like 2bb 3bb 2.5bb Custom amount bb

also postflop, just make it possible we could enter an own percentage

edit: lol didn't see guy above me mentioned it already haha
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Old 10-19-2014, 02:00 PM   #8
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Party_rep,

Its pretty uncomfortable for players not to see who is at the table. Each poker site has this feature. Its 1 of the main things in the design on online poker room. So its -1.

But Auto post blinds is obviously +1. You should ve done it long time ago.
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Old 10-19-2014, 03:39 PM   #9
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Auto post blinds
When a player joins the table today the process is slow and cumbersome.
A new player sits at a table, they wait until they get into a position where they can post, they are asked to post or wait for big blind. Player is given 10 seconds to make a decision. If the player doesn’t have Auto-Post Blinds selected at the table that’s potentially another delay when that player is asked to post.

Assumptions
  • When a player takes a seat they want to start playing
  • Players already seated would like the above delays to be reduced/removed
We want to change this flow – no more checking/unchecking Auto-Post Blinds, this option is enabled for all players and cannot be turned off, all players will auto-post in all Cash games.

When a new player sits at a table they are given 1 button, ‘Play Now’, with some supporting text. When pressed the player will post a blind at the next available opportunity, position doesn't matter as long as the player is in a valid seat to start playing from.
If the player doesn't opt to press the ‘Play Now’ button they won’t be prompted to post out of position at the start of any hand but when the player gets into the big blind seat they will automatically post.



If you sit out but then sit back in without missing any blinds you will just start playing again in the next hand. If while sat out you miss some blinds, when you sit back in you will once again get the ‘Play Now’ button – pressing this will post your dead blind and deal you in. Don’t press the button and you will come back in on your next big blind.

That’s the two features that we would like to hear feedback on first and hopefully stimulate constructive debate on how to best implement them.

Thanks,
Party_Rep
I'm not sure what you mean by, "... stimulate constructive debate on how to best implement them", but, for Auto post blinds, I cannot imagine that you could find one customer who would not agree with this previously missing correction to your current game methods, and it should be implemented without any further delay.
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Old 10-19-2014, 03:52 PM   #10
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You need to employ somebody who knows something about online poker.

Not a joke.

Constructive.
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Old 10-19-2014, 09:04 PM   #11
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You need to employ somebody who knows something about online poker.

Not a joke.

Constructive.

Omg .... THIS !!
So true
So necessary

And for Christ sake .. How the hell do you even think about implementing new features, when the current software is in shambles.
Fix the CURRENT bugs.

Not one mention of the graphics bug .....

Pathetic
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Old 10-19-2014, 09:29 PM   #12
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Party_rep,

Its pretty uncomfortable for players not to see who is at the table. Each poker site has this feature. Its 1 of the main things in the design on online poker room. So its -1.

But Auto post blinds is obviously +1. You should ve done it long time ago.
i disagree, if it cuts down on the use of scripts its easily 200% better to be forced to click the table and see whose on it than just scroll over in lobby, really not much diff....not like its anonymous tables or something.....although anonymous tables would be blades

+2 to auto post blinds, miss them ****s constantly
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Old 10-19-2014, 11:08 PM   #13
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Change the structure for rest of Pokerfest's big NLHE tournies? (The $500 and $1000)

Currently this is the dumbest tournament structure I've seen in ages. 750bb starting stacks, 9-handed = first hour of this tournament is totally insignificant. Starting time is already bit late for Europe, and after 7,5 hours (seriously wtf) when it reaches bubble the tournament is avg. 25bb deep crapshoot.

Make it rather 250bb starting stacks and 25 min levels. Would prefer also 6-max or antes from the beginning if it's 9-handed.

EDIT: Oh right, might as well mention this. There is, or at least was in July, a bug in tournament seating system. When the Sunday $200k was down to it's final to tables (4 and 5 players respectively) the tables didn't merge before one player got eliminated (took about 10-15 hands) and we were moved to 9-handed FT with 8 players.

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Old 10-19-2014, 11:11 PM   #14
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custom bet buttons in blinds. eg 2bb 3bb 2.5bb etc. this is all i want done first
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Old 10-20-2014, 12:04 AM   #15
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You seriously considering to make your place less attractive for regulars?
Guys, it's 2014 and reading a list w seated players is a legit way to table select.

Please spend generated rake on advertising rather on this 3rd-4th tier kinda problem.

How about getting rid of all the bots farming on your network?
Perhaps protect us from them. Stick to your job and dont get creative when there is plenty criticism around.
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Old 10-20-2014, 02:33 AM   #16
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Party Rep
As far as I'm aware, from reading a commercial seating script's thread (Turbo SeatIN), the scripts work by scanning tables that you have opened not the lobby player list. So yes TablescanTurbo wont work but the more predatory seating scripts you are trying to get rid of will be unaffected. Did Party actually do any research on how seating scripts work before undergoing this project whilst at the same time neglecting the graphics bug/ crash issues which are affecting its paying customers and costing them money?
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Old 10-20-2014, 04:09 AM   #17
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As others have said:
  • modifying the auto-post arrangements in this way seems sensible enough
  • consulting in this way is a great idea - but is entirely inappropriate when your software has such serious issues that none of us can play. I've not played on Party in 3 weeks.
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Old 10-20-2014, 10:04 PM   #18
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1. Internet disc with internet connection working perfectly
2. Whole software freezes
3. Tables crashes, chips and cards disappearance


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Hello,

Please note we’ve had to temporarily disable the table hogging solution we implemented as we’ve discovered some performance issues – this will be re-enabled as soon as possible.

In addition, we’ve also noticed that auto-rebuy and add-on on classic tables has some issues which impact 9-handed tables. Our recommendation is that players switch to our modern table and we will deploy a fix as soon as possible.

Thanks all,
Vas

There are still ****ers out there who open 5+ tables and insta sit outs, very often 6max lobby looks like a HU lobby with 30-40 tables with one player


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Hi 2+2,
For it to be really useful as a table selection tool one either needs to recognize the players by nickname or somehow use an external tool. While some of these tools are not necessarily prohibited at this time we’re not obliged or incentivized to support them either. Given that, the pro of reducing clutter and freeing up space for better use outweighs the cons.
As such we plan to remove the table list player info box from the main lobby.
Made my day You are not banning them, yet it wouldn`t be possible to use them:P
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Old 10-20-2014, 10:52 PM   #19
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As far as I'm aware, from reading a commercial seating script's thread (Turbo SeatIN), the scripts work by scanning tables that you have opened not the lobby player list. So yes TablescanTurbo wont work but the more predatory seating scripts you are trying to get rid of will be unaffected. Did Party actually do any research on how seating scripts work before undergoing this project whilst at the same time neglecting the graphics bug/ crash issues which are affecting its paying customers and costing them money?
This

I'll say it again .... THIS !
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Old 10-21-2014, 04:54 AM   #20
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^^ +1

Fix the bugs before introducing a "new feature" please.
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Old 10-21-2014, 09:09 AM   #21
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Planning on doing anything other than fixing the crippling bug which CRASHES THE ENTIRE ****ING CLIENT EVERY 15 MINUTES (!) for a very significant portion of your multitabling player base is just mind-blowingly stupid. For gods sake, wake the **** up and realise how ridiculous this is! You're running a ****ing 1.3 billion dollar poker site, and your poker client is crashing every 10 minutes FOR THREE WEEKS! Just say that out loud to yourself. Would ebay or amazon or apple.com go down for a week? Are you going for the world record in gross incompetence here!?!?

Yeah this post was full of swearing and punctuation. I'm just this angry and I'm sure most other regs are. Fix your goddamn client!
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Old 10-21-2014, 11:52 AM   #22
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Planning on doing anything other than fixing the crippling bug which CRASHES THE ENTIRE ****ING CLIENT EVERY 15 MINUTES (!) for a very significant portion of your multitabling player base is just mind-blowingly stupid. For gods sake, wake the **** up and realise how ridiculous this is! You're running a ****ing 1.3 billion dollar poker site, and your poker client is crashing every 10 minutes FOR THREE WEEKS! Just say that out loud to yourself. Would ebay or amazon or apple.com go down for a week? Are you going for the world record in gross incompetence here!?!?

Yeah this post was full of swearing and punctuation. I'm just this angry and I'm sure most other regs are. Fix your goddamn client!
And also .....
Very much ...


THIS
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Old 10-21-2014, 12:22 PM   #23
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Planning on doing anything other than fixing the crippling bug which CRASHES THE ENTIRE ****ING CLIENT EVERY 15 MINUTES (!) for a very significant portion of your multitabling player base is just mind-blowingly stupid. For gods sake, wake the **** up and realise how ridiculous this is! You're running a ****ing 1.3 billion dollar poker site, and your poker client is crashing every 10 minutes FOR THREE WEEKS! Just say that out loud to yourself. Would ebay or amazon or apple.com go down for a week? Are you going for the world record in gross incompetence here!?!?

Yeah this post was full of swearing and punctuation. I'm just this angry and I'm sure most other regs are. Fix your goddamn client!
+1
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Planning on doing anything other than fixing the crippling bug which CRASHES THE ENTIRE ****ING CLIENT EVERY 15 MINUTES (!) for a very significant portion of your multitabling player base is just mind-blowingly stupid. For gods sake, wake the **** up and realise how ridiculous this is! You're running a ****ing 1.3 billion dollar poker site, and your poker client is crashing every 10 minutes FOR THREE WEEKS! Just say that out loud to yourself. Would ebay or amazon or apple.com go down for a week? Are you going for the world record in gross incompetence here!?!?

Yeah this post was full of swearing and punctuation. I'm just this angry and I'm sure most other regs are. Fix your goddamn client!
+1
Well said, swearing very necessary but they still won't listen. The old adage that actions speak louder than words must mean that Party don't give a **** about their customers letting this drag on for 3 weeks + now
World record incompetence was smashed days ago imo, Usain Bolt style.

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Planning on doing anything other than fixing the crippling bug which CRASHES THE ENTIRE ****ING CLIENT EVERY 15 MINUTES (!) for a very significant portion of your multitabling player base is just mind-blowingly stupid. For gods sake, wake the **** up and realise how ridiculous this is! You're running a ****ing 1.3 billion dollar poker site, and your poker client is crashing every 10 minutes FOR THREE WEEKS! Just say that out loud to yourself. Would ebay or amazon or apple.com go down for a week? Are you going for the world record in gross incompetence here!?!?

Yeah this post was full of swearing and punctuation. I'm just this angry and I'm sure most other regs are. Fix your goddamn client!
+1
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