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06-30-2011 , 07:35 PM

#1351

Neonclaws

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 205

Having problems again for others as well?

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06-30-2011 , 08:28 PM

#1352

coxquinn

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,729

Quote:

Originally Posted by homerjaysimpson

yes...not to mention the $1 capped hu rake vs. 50cent on tilt/stars. If they want that business they need to make the HU options competitive

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06-30-2011 , 08:35 PM

#1353

NLplayer

adept

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 992

imo they should accomodate uNL players better also

I am moving in august because of their rubbish VIP system.

I mean, grinders pay the most rake, so why not try and get more of em online?

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07-01-2011 , 03:56 AM

#1354

eule

veteran

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,473

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Originally Posted by coxquinn

yes...not to mention the $1 capped hu rake vs. 50cent on tilt/stars. If they want that business they need to make the HU options competitive

agree 100%, party could really develop an edge over the competition (esp ipoker w/ rip off stuff like 1 pound rakecap) as stars is now the only legit site that offers HU games w/ 50 cent cap (and thus will probably draw most HU players.

other option would obv be to just give everyone 50%+ rakeback deals like ipokers/microgaming does but i guess thats not partys way to do it

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07-01-2011 , 04:34 AM

#1355

OMGKaraScott

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 391

Uh, i just noticed that World domination -promo lasts 2 months, great... So bye bye party, cu at september.

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07-01-2011 , 04:37 AM

#1356

PokerJuice1

adept

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 747

Wish you guys had never stopped takin American players, I always did good on your site.

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07-01-2011 , 05:23 AM

#1357

Lessu

Thailand Guru

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,069

anyone else think the world domination promo is random like party states?

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We’ve made conquering the planet easy. Simply earn 10 PartyPoints and you’ll be randomly awarded a city from the 72 available

the promo lasts for 50 days allowing you to get over 5000 cities and there are only 72. what are the chances the you will collect them all if it is random? (serious question, gonna try to do the math myself but would be nice if someone confirms)

it only takes 25k in rake to get them all

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07-01-2011 , 06:44 AM

#1358

JohnnyDrama030

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,200

Quote:

Originally Posted by coxquinn

yes...not to mention the $1 capped hu rake vs. 50cent on tilt/stars. If they want that business they need to make the HU options competitive

not to mention the 10% rake in husngs <$200 compared to the 5% on stars.

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07-01-2011 , 08:43 AM

#1359

jukofyork

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,749

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lessu

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coupon_...or%27s_problem

Juk

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07-01-2011 , 08:45 AM

#1360

Zendo

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 423

how do you 2.5x it on this site appart from having to type it in ?

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07-01-2011 , 08:57 AM

#1361

bigt2k4

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 15,296

Quote:

Originally Posted by jukofyork

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coupon_...or%27s_problem

Juk

I don't have a calculator handy, someone want to do the math?

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07-01-2011 , 09:57 AM

#1362

CBFunk

newbie

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 29

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Originally Posted by eule

plz add plo hu

i dont get it... i asked serveral times here and at pokerstrategy.com but so far partypoker has not responded other than "we dont plan to add it. no reason for it"

also: after FTP happenings party poker again trys to attract players by a reload bonus + insta vip status etc...

there is a HUGE no. of plo HU grinders now searching for 2nd site w/ decents software and rakeback.... why dont u offer them a new home?

i just dont get it...

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07-01-2011 , 09:59 AM

#1363

Lessu

Thailand Guru

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,069

i did some math based on those links but I have no clue if the numbers are correct

I got that on average it takes 350 tries to get the 72 cities picked (fairly sure about this number)

and if you got 5000(in reality you can get more) tries I got that it is only around 1.6% that you won't hit them all (very unsure about this number)

I have a lot of difficulty to believe that this promotion is random but i'll wait until someone wiser comes to post numbers

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07-01-2011 , 10:01 AM

#1364

jukofyork

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,749

From the wiki page:

E(T) = n/n + n/(n-1) + n/(n-2) + ... + n/1 = sum of n/t where t=1 to n

Using Wolfram Alpha (ie: just type in "sum of 72/t where t=1 to 72"): http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i...re+t%3D1+to+72

E(T) = ~350

My guess is it's gonna be fixed though and some of the cities will be much harder to get than others (eg: like the McDonalds monopoly promotion where some of the properties are ridiculously hard to get compared to others).

Juk

Last edited by jukofyork; 07-01-2011 at 10:05 AM. Reason: 2 minutes too slow :D

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07-01-2011 , 10:18 AM

#1365

bigt2k4

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 15,296

u mean I can't just earn 3500 party points and get 100k really easily?

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07-01-2011 , 10:21 AM

#1366

jukofyork

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,749

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Originally Posted by bigt2k4

u mean I can't just earn 3500 party points and get 100k really easily?

Well there is some tiny chance they've messed up the promotion!

Juk

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07-01-2011 , 10:37 AM

#1367

JohnnyDrama030

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,200

but if the cities are not random and some are really hard to get just based on luck would be ugly imo. you could grind like a mashine and just be unlucky to not get the one city where the chance to get it is 1: 100000 or whatever.

the lottery in june was joke enough imo. i got $25 for my 6000 party points.

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07-01-2011 , 11:01 AM

#1368

jukofyork

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,749

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Originally Posted by JohnnyDrama030

but if the cities are not random and some are really hard to get just based on luck would be ugly imo. you could grind like a mashine and just be unlucky to not get the one city where the chance to get it is 1: 100000 or whatever.

Yeah, this would be an easy way to control the chance of anybody winning, from the wiki again:

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Understanding the problem

The key to solving the problem is understanding that it takes very little time to collect the first few coupons. On the other hand, it takes a long time to collect the last few coupons. In fact, for 50 coupons, it takes on average 50 trials to collect the very last coupon after the other 49 coupons have been collected. This is why the expected time to collect all coupons is much longer than 50. The idea now is to split the total time into 50 intervals where the expected time can be calculated.

Juk

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07-01-2011 , 11:24 AM

#1369

Rock_N_Rolla

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 207

Juk, if they can't even fix a 5 year old bug, how are they supposed to fix that.

However, my question is why the promotion starts 8:th of July, that decreases our chances DRAMATICALLY, almost 1/3.

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07-01-2011 , 11:28 AM

#1370

Lessu

Thailand Guru

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,069

huh?

the promo lasts until the end of august, over 50 days

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07-01-2011 , 11:38 AM

#1371

gerryq

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 532

If it were random, they'd have said so!

It's also obvious that some countries and continents are more valuable than others - one may expect that some of the rerlevant cities will be rare.

Still, fun enough concept for a promotion.

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07-01-2011 , 11:40 AM

#1372

Rock_N_Rolla

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 207

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lessu

huh?

the promo lasts until the end of august, over 50 days

Oh that's true. I thought it was a normal monthly promotion.
I guess we will have to stick with this promotion for TWO months!

Rock

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07-01-2011 , 11:41 AM

#1373

Lessu

Thailand Guru

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,069

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerryq

like this on their promotion site?

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Cities are randomly awarded to players.

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We’ve made conquering the planet easy. Simply earn 10 PartyPoints and you’ll be randomly awarded a city from the 72 available.

nobody really reads t&c?

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07-01-2011 , 11:49 AM

#1374

thunderbolts

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,596

I would put a ton of money on it not being truly random. There has to be at least a variance in drop rates for each city. Otherwise it would make no sense for one continent or country to be worth more than others. How could they cost the promotion? I'm pretty sure no-one would underwrite the risk.

It might be the case that you are awarded a random city out of a pool of 1 million, say. Of that million, 50,000 will be Mumbai, and, say, only 2,000 will be Vancouver. It's "random", but not random.

Last edited by thunderbolts; 07-01-2011 at 11:51 AM. Reason: Vancouver's obviously a bad example because it's the crappiest freeroll prize. The rare ones will be ones not on that list.