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03-15-2012 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 39suited
Any more assumptions that you would like to share with us in this thread?
Why, you don't think they are capable of disabling the blackjack in the client?
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03-15-2012 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ACR Rep
We're licensed in the Republic of Cyprus, and our payouts have proven to be the fastest.
Nevermind..

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03-15-2012 , 08:10 PM
About 7 years ago I started with $200. It took me a few years but I worked it up to a nice little stash.

I have been away from online poker for a year or two now. I use to play at Paradise Poker but that disappeared for US players. I moved over to Absolute and Full Tilt but you know the story there. I have been considering creating an account at Carbon but am not sure if Carbon is my best choice. Also, rakeback use to be very good to me, is that an option for me. My play on cash tables is less than $0.50/$1 NL and on SNG or Tournaments $50 or less buyin. Any advice is appreciated. Thank you.

P.S. Also the deposit/withdrawl method is important to me. I prefer not to have my bank acct tied to my poker acct. A good old mailed check is my preferred. If it takes a month or two, that's not a problem for me.
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03-16-2012 , 05:33 AM
Where are the players at? The site says there are 1500 players, but I only count 287 that are playing cash, play money, freerolls, MTTs and SNGs. That is including the straight total of entries in tourneys not including players left in them. Also includes multitablers as a diffeent person at each table. Unless some other skin is running completely different games I don't see the 1500.
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03-16-2012 , 09:42 AM
ACR mtt schedule is the biggest joke
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03-16-2012 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Rivertranced
ACR mtt schedule is the biggest joke
I agree to extent. I used to play on Everleaf religiously before Black Friday when the network was infinitely smaller and well before the italians. They used to do if I remember correctly 5 $200-$250Gtds a day. They were all $2 and $5? rebuys With the same regulars everyday with about 30 players in each.
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03-16-2012 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by LoLuMaD
For the love of god remove BBJ tables from the micros
I agree, but failing that, at least take a proportional amount of rake out of the pots. Taking 11 cents out of a 20 cent pot, when it's heads up SB and BB with no raise, is just unbelievable. (They even take out rake when it's folded around to the BB. What happened to no flop, no drop?)

I have simply stopped playing at BBJ microstakes tables because a solid BB/100 is unsustainable unless you win the damn BBJ.

But, I also understand why they keep running those tables -- people play them. They have non-BBJ tables available, but half the time they're empty and all the BBJ tables are full. The reason the site is attractive (lots of terrible fish) is also the same reason why the BBJ tables are perpetuated (the fish don't realize they're a losing proposition). So, you take the good with the bad.

So I'd love for them to fix the BBJ problem but it's probably not going to happen.
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03-16-2012 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mikedeck22
If you already have a true poker account and a debit card for that account, can you open an acr account and get a separate debit card for that account?
Yes you can, but you don’t have to, you can use it for both.
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Originally Posted by rigabby
Enjoying the site, but wondering if there is a firm date for the store opening?
We’re expecting to have it launched next week, however, an exact date is still undefined.
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Originally Posted by CallMeLucid
anyone having trouble depositing via debit card in the US (i have BoA if that matters)?
please send me your username and I'll have someone walk you through
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Originally Posted by GBCASH1004
>> Dear Americas card room I have asked you guys to exclude me from any
>> casino game on the site(the
>> email dated Jan 8th) for the past three months I have not been able to
>> play casino games which was
>> PERFECT, today I logged on and I was able to play the "Mini Blackjack"
>> game this is obviously a
>> casino game and a large failure on the support team for not disabling it.
>> I lost about $460 US on
>> the casino game today. I am a regular player on your guys site and in
>> three months I have paid over
>> $3,000 in rake. I realize it is partially my fault for playing but you
>> must concede that it is also
>> the fault of ACR support I specifically requested that you disable ALL
>> casino games for me and
>> Support said they would. Anyway what I am asking for is a refund of 1/2 my
>> losses from today in the
>> amount of $230 and I will continue to use your site(upon verifying that
>> casino games have been
>> disabled). I understand if the request cannot be honored due to a policy
>> or something however I will
>> cash out my account in full and close it. Thanks and have a great day.

ACR Response

Dear XXXXX,

Thank you for choosing America's Card Room.

Please note that the "Mini Blackjack" games cannot be restricted on our software and this game is not included on the group
of games on our Casino page.

Please note that we cannot take responsibility on this matter. If you have further questions please feel free to review our terms and conditions:

http://www.americascardroom.eu/poker...nd-conditions/


MY Response:

Thank you for your prompt response If that casino game cannot be
disabled I will be cashing out and closing my account shortly. I find
it quite ridiculous that you guys cannot disable a game on your own
software. But if that's how it works then thats how it works have a
good one.

Just a side thought how can you guys say you advocate responsible gaming and then not have the ability to disable a feature on your own software?
Please send me your username and I will see what I can do
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Originally Posted by Poker Clif
I'm confused by this. There was a big deal made about the switch from rakeback to Combat Points, and now we need Rank Points, whatever those are.
When you play a cash game with a rake or in a tourney where a fee is paid, you earn Rank Points (RPs) which determine your Military Rank. Combat Points (CP), can be redeemed for items in your Store.
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Originally Posted by DJizzzle
How long does it get a check from ACR? Also am i going to have to send an id in order to with drawl? Also any rakeback affiliates please message me with offers!!!!!
7-14 days, the security department may require an ID.
We have many affiliates offering our 27% rakeback deal and more, feel free to google the best one for you.
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Originally Posted by Ponziani
In regards to combat points, I'm currently a rakeback player, though it still shows that I'm accumulating combat points. If I decide to switch over, will the points be reset to 0?
No they won’t.
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Originally Posted by ledn378
Will rakeback players still be able to use the store?
No, you’ll need to switch over.
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03-16-2012 , 06:37 PM
Don't forget! This weekend be sure to take advantage of our 50% reload bonus up to $250- March 15th- 18th
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03-16-2012 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ACR Rep
Don't forget! This weekend be sure to take advantage of our 50% reload bonus up to $250- March 15th- 18th
^ Thank you. Have been looking for this for a while.
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03-16-2012 , 08:31 PM
Originally Posted by Ponziani
"In regards to combat points, I'm currently a rakeback player, though it still shows that I'm accumulating combat points. If I decide to switch over, will the points be reset to 0?"

ACR Rep:
"No they won’t."


I'm a bit confused about this. Doesn't this then mean that we can accumulate up a lot of combat points while earning rb, then switch to the ranking system penalty-free and spend the combat points even though we've been getting rb?
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03-16-2012 , 10:57 PM
what is the best way to deposit? wells fargo isnt allowing deposits. the only other card i have is a mastercard, which is not accepted.
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03-17-2012 , 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by BrocheN
what is the best way to deposit? wells fargo isnt allowing deposits. the only other card i have is a mastercard, which is not accepted.
Try western union then.
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03-17-2012 , 01:14 AM
Alright this just happened to me 4 orbits in a row.. I'm in the BB and its SB vs BB and SB just limps at the BBJ table... Soooo annoying when a 20c pot turns into 9c.... what a disgrace. It's even worse when it happens to be a chop pot.
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03-17-2012 , 03:29 PM
Hey guys, I just think that everyone should be aware of a risk they may face if you an American player wishing to cash out. I would highly recommend not cashing out using ACR's check option if its still available because about a month ago I did this and as soon as I deposited my check from ACR (I bank with Wells Fargo), my account was frozen because ACR sent me a check from a "closed account." I went to my neighborhood branch and they told me that I had a lifetime ban from them because this looked like highly fraudulent activity. I spoke to ACR and my bank and from what I can conclude that nothing can be done to fix this. Also high fees will be charged from the check not going through, but not having a bank account is a bit more costly. This is not an angry post or anything, I just want everyone here trying to still play online poker in the US to be wary that there are some shady things with ACR that can be quite inconvenient. Also, I'm sure this has been said a bunch but the Debit Card option is definitely the way to go with this site. The fees are worth avoiding any of this mess. But okay sorry for the long post. Good luck to all of you still playing.
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03-17-2012 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by blobbloblob
Alright this just happened to me 4 orbits in a row.. I'm in the BB and its SB vs BB and SB just limps at the BBJ table... Soooo annoying when a 20c pot turns into 9c.... what a disgrace. It's even worse when it happens to be a chop pot.
Yeah, I have decided not to play in the BBJ tables anymore. I like this site a lot, but the BBJ-table rake is a disgrace.

What I really don't understand, though, is why people are so stupid as to limp in from the SB when it's heads up, knowing that over 50% of the pot is just going to disappear into thin air. The do it over and over and over. In every session I've had at a BBJ table, this has happened at least a dozen times. Do they seriously never look at the pot and realize that half the pot is going to the house?
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03-17-2012 , 07:02 PM
First I have to say it is disappointing to see all these BBJ tables and secondly how on earth is it possible that there are at most 1 active $5 SH and 1 $5 FR table going? Where are the $10 6max non-BBJ games? All I see are HU, 4 max, and FR. Not impressed at all by the lack of "normal" tables, on a Saturday evening too.

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03-17-2012 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by three_dee
What I really don't understand, though, is why people are so stupid as to limp in from the SB when it's heads up, knowing that over 50% of the pot is just going to disappear into thin air. The do it over and over and over. In every session I've had at a BBJ table, this has happened at least a dozen times. Do they seriously never look at the pot and realize that half the pot is going to the house?
Players that aren't capable of making this distinction are the kinds of players you want to play with imo.
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03-17-2012 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by am_man
Players that aren't capable of making this distinction are the kinds of players you want to play with imo.
I don't think 99% of the players on this site are capable of common sense. They are worse than the Italians on everleaf.

Ive also noticed that this site is the closest online site to a normal live game(6-8bb preflop raises etc)
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03-17-2012 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by snguyen2011
Hey guys, I just think that everyone should be aware of a risk they may face if you an American player wishing to cash out. I would highly recommend not cashing out using ACR's check option if its still available because about a month ago I did this and as soon as I deposited my check from ACR (I bank with Wells Fargo), my account was frozen because ACR sent me a check from a "closed account." I went to my neighborhood branch and they told me that I had a lifetime ban from them because this looked like highly fraudulent activity. I spoke to ACR and my bank and from what I can conclude that nothing can be done to fix this. Also high fees will be charged from the check not going through, but not having a bank account is a bit more costly. This is not an angry post or anything, I just want everyone here trying to still play online poker in the US to be wary that there are some shady things with ACR that can be quite inconvenient. Also, I'm sure this has been said a bunch but the Debit Card option is definitely the way to go with this site. The fees are worth avoiding any of this mess. But okay sorry for the long post. Good luck to all of you still playing.
Oh boy. I had wanted to do a withdrawal via check, though given this kind of risk I think I might have to look at other options. Thanks for the heads up.
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03-18-2012 , 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by am_man
Players that aren't capable of making this distinction are the kinds of players you want to play with imo.
Notice, I didn't say that I don't want to play against them. I was trying to figure out what the hell they are thinking.

I wouldn't bring it up in the chat and try to teach them poker, but I'm just thinking out loud in a poker forum.
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03-18-2012 , 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Ponziani
Oh boy. I had wanted to do a withdrawal via check, though given this kind of risk I think I might have to look at other options. Thanks for the heads up.
I am skeptical of that story, because I don't see why his bank branch would shun him like a leper if a check bounced.

I can understand the check not clearing or whatever, but IMO the bank is not going to close out your account based on YOU receiving a bad check and trying to deposit it. Maybe if you are caught issuing bad checks, or something, that's another story, but just depositing a check? That's something I don't find very plausible.
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03-18-2012 , 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by three_dee
I am skeptical of that story, because I don't see why his bank branch would shun him like a leper if a check bounced.

I can understand the check not clearing or whatever, but IMO the bank is not going to close out your account based on YOU receiving a bad check and trying to deposit it. Maybe if you are caught issuing bad checks, or something, that's another story, but just depositing a check? That's something I don't find very plausible.
I have no reason to make this story up but I guess just to make things clear...
Sending checks from a closed account is highly illegal in the United States and it might have just been an accident on ACR's part by not realizing they had done that. Because I received the check and deposited it, my bank considered me a "high risk" customer and permanently closed my account. I've been a loyal customer for several years with them but it's a violation of the Terms of Service of my bank. So just letting you know it is possible and Wells Fargo is a big banking company in the US so other big banks could have the same policy.
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03-18-2012 , 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by three_dee
I am skeptical of that story, because I don't see why his bank branch would shun him like a leper if a check bounced.

I can understand the check not clearing or whatever, but IMO the bank is not going to close out your account based on YOU receiving a bad check and trying to deposit it. Maybe if you are caught issuing bad checks, or something, that's another story, but just depositing a check? That's something I don't find very plausible.
It depends on their interpretation of what you're doing. If you try to cash some personal check from a dude with insufficient funds, they'll just ping you $35 and call it a day. If you attempt to deposit a foreign check with insufficient funds, they'll inspect it further. If it's drawn on a closed account, that's a bit different than NSF because it cannot be anything but a fraudulent check. NSF is harder to determine what the writer's intentions were, thus more leeway.

That's not to say I believe the dude, but his story isn't impossible. I also don't think ACR is purposely drawing from a closed account. In this climate, it's very easy for a check to be drawn on a good account and that bank account get shut down before the check is deposited.

It is also very possible the bank knows the origin of the check (i.e., gambling) and they shut his account down for that reason and just told him it's because he's a high risk customer.
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03-18-2012 , 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by snguyen2011
I have no reason to make this story up but I guess just to make things clear...
Sending checks from a closed account is highly illegal in the United States and it might have just been an accident on ACR's part by not realizing they had done that. Because I received the check and deposited it, my bank considered me a "high risk" customer and permanently closed my account. I've been a loyal customer for several years with them but it's a violation of the Terms of Service of my bank. So just letting you know it is possible and Wells Fargo is a big banking company in the US so other big banks could have the same policy.
I think the reason many people are skeptical to believe you is because we've seen many new accounts (like yours) created just to complain/troll/shill about a room.

Can you show us the letter they sent you telling you they froze your account or anything like that?
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