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12-26-2008 , 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by AlexB81
I think for players depends how much fishy will be the new network.
If fishes stay on ipoker and there are only Noiq regulars at NL1000 hu\6max and above on new network for players is better change Ipoker skin.
If Noiq offered better deals it means good grinders are on Noiq so if all these will go in another network maybe ipoker will be really fishy
NoiQ had a lot of grinders 6 months ago.
But the last 6 months they have more than double the amount of players but still have the same rake.

NoiQ dont have that many grinders. Just the top players in the race.

NoiQ have lost a lot to other ipoker skins who offer rb deals under the table.

I think players will get a wow feeling when they see that what i wrote is the truth and new network will get a lot of fishes as well.
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12-26-2008 , 09:48 AM
I've joined NoIQ Poker a couple months ago because I love iPoker. It's not perfect, but I've played on pretty much any network and I liked iPoker the best. The only really simply feature I've been begging for for months is a filter for those damn turbo tables.

I'm really curious to where they are moving. If it's Ongame I'll cash out immediately. I wouldn't mind if it's primapoker, however I still have nightmares from the whole battlefieldpoker scandal... I've never played on Entraction but looking at the screenshots I'm kind of looking forward to playing there. It actually looks quite similar to primapoker, I just hope they have a good miniview so I can 8table without the windows overlapping too much
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12-26-2008 , 09:52 AM
OK so you are PR for NOiQ, no probs with that.

"new network will get a lot of fishes as well"

So the fishes aren't there already then as the email states? Where will they come from if they aren't existing players and aren't transfering NOIQ ones.

Seems a false statement if they aren't already playing at the new network?
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12-26-2008 , 09:54 AM
Could you please stop speculating about Ongame already. Read the motherfuxing third post in the thread!

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But the chosen network had a much faster game play
Ongame has the slowest game play in the industry so it is not it.

Actually the only two networks that have "much faster game play" than iPoker are Prima and Entraction so it's either one of those for sure.
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12-26-2008 , 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ColdDecker333
Could you please stop speculating about Ongame already. Read the motherfuxing third post in the thread!



Ongame has the slowest game play in the industry so it is not it.

Actually the only two networks that have "much faster game play" than iPoker are Prima and Entraction so it's either one of those for sure.
Ongame software has some problems, but it is most definitely faster than iPoker.
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12-26-2008 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr.Action
some guys might look for a new deal on ipoker now.
pm me if u want to hear about the best and legal offer on a trustable skin.
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Originally Posted by ttesone
PM me too if you are looking for a new and sweet deal on a reputable ipoker skin

What is wrong with you guys? Ban plz
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12-26-2008 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Sandbanks
OK so you are PR for NOiQ, no probs with that.

"new network will get a lot of fishes as well"

So the fishes aren't there already then as the email states? Where will they come from if they aren't existing players and aren't transfering NOIQ ones.

Seems a false statement if they aren't already playing at the new network?

Point was NoiQ will bring fishes not only sharkes.
So many say NoiQ only have sharks and highroller. This is not the fact, they have a lot of smaller players.

Sorry for bad english if you didt understand what i ment
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12-26-2008 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by fastup
Point was NoiQ will bring fishes not only sharkes.
So many say NoiQ only have sharks and highroller. This is not the fact, they have a lot of smaller players.

Sorry for bad english if you didt understand what i ment
But even the lowstakes players can be winning players. You must admit that the total sum of the withdrawls from NoIQ is larger than the deposits. Right?
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12-26-2008 , 12:30 PM
I have no problem with NoiQ leaving iPoker. If they join prima, i'm going back to play there 100% again. With ladbrokes opening and NoiQ joining there will be great action like there was back in the days.
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12-26-2008 , 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Hazud
But even the lowstakes players can be winning players. You must admit that the total sum of the withdrawls from NoIQ is larger than the deposits. Right?
Yes, that is correct. NoiQ have like 10-15 highrollers that play on the highest blinds on ipoker.
These are pros.

NoiQ sent an apply to ipoker about this and asked if ipoker could exclude these players from the policy since they did not play for rakeback or bonuses but just for the cash of the poker pots. These players win millions of $ and withdraw a lot.

So, NoiQ applied but it got denied. If ipoker accepted these 10 -15 players then NoiQ would not have their players withdrawing more than they deposit.

This is how you look at things and why ipoker and NoiQ not always agreed on things. And I have seen the email where they asked about this so it's the fact and not something i just come up with.
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12-26-2008 , 12:34 PM
I remember a year ago when NoIQ was banned from the iPoker network for a week or so. The games on NoIQ (where NoIQ players played vs eachother) were tight as hell and the games on the rest of the iPoker network were amazingly soft because most of the grinders were now missing for a week. (SSNL)

But that was a year ago.
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12-26-2008 , 12:45 PM
lol everyone is saying there's only pros and no fish on NoiQ...

Not true
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12-26-2008 , 12:45 PM
i think you dont have to worry about if the money is safe
i just talk today with one of NOIQ boss
and about rakeback or bonus they dont get lower
NOIQ is very smart the way they make business
the y are no greedy like some of poker rooms
..they leave because they dont agree with ipoker
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12-26-2008 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 2girls1flop
lol everyone is saying there's only pros and no fish on NoiQ...

Not true
NoiQ is a larger site who gives good support with fast cashouts.
This attract a lot of bigger players and pro players who like money fast when they need it. NoiQ are one of the sites who can manage these transfers in hours.

These pros dont care about RB or Races but they still mess up the policy ipoker have come with.

So yes, NoiQ have big playes but not only that as you say.
They do have small players, bad players, normal players and so on and they do spend a lot in marketing for smaller players.
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12-26-2008 , 12:53 PM
...or they leave because Ipoker doesn't agree with NOIQ...
aka kicked out...
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12-26-2008 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by fastup
They do have small players, bad players, normal players and so on and they do spend a lot in marketing for smaller players.
Where can I find this marketing? I haven't seen
one NOIQ ad outside a poker forum...
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12-26-2008 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Potabuser
Where can I find this marketing? I haven't seen
one NOIQ ad outside a poker forum...
+1
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12-26-2008 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Potabuser
Where can I find this marketing? I haven't seen
one NOIQ ad outside a poker forum...
$50.000 a month in freerolls?
Why give that if you only like big players?

And if you started a poker site, how would u do it?
NoiQ work close with affiliates not newspapers. Is that wrong?
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12-26-2008 , 01:16 PM
fastup, i agree NoIQ does have fast cashouts and good support, from feedback I've read and never seen any complaints. But so do some other iPoker sites (but not all).

You say you have bad players, but the only bad players NoIQ will be players who would have been playing on iPoker regardless of NoIQ poker (i.e. bad regulars)

You've attracted players solely by advertising on poker forums and a large network of PMing affiliates.

You've relied on other iPoker sites spending tens of millions on advertising to attract fish, whilst NoIQ only advertise to only higher volume players. This is not a long term solution to a poker network.

You can't have a number of iPoker sites who have pumped in tens of millions over years to attract fish, then along comes another NoIQ, pays a fee to join the network, and then they just try to steal the best of the existing iPoker sites players. You were very, very lucky not to be kicked off when you moved to iPoker - when rakeback was banned yet you got all players on 30% rakeback. You were only kicked off for a week which was very lucky.

This led to lots of other sites getting annoyed, and hence iPoker implemented the deposits - withdrawls policy.

However, from a good friend of mine who would know about this, you were kicked off because of rakeback violations (hardly surprising when your VIP system is non-existant, except for at the highest when it says 'contact our player manager').

sorry if this seems like a personal attack, it is not. I just prefer fishier games and NoIQ really hindered this, and so hindered my winnings.

anyways, I'll stop my ramblings, there are many more important things than this, but it's something I've been conscious of and it's good to get it off my chest
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12-26-2008 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by derek_richmond
fastup, i agree NoIQ does have fast cashouts and good support, from feedback I've read and never seen any complaints. But so do some other iPoker sites (but not all).

You say you have bad players, but the only bad players NoIQ will be players who would have been playing on iPoker regardless of NoIQ poker (i.e. bad regulars)

You've attracted players solely by advertising on poker forums and a large network of PMing affiliates.

You've relied on other iPoker sites spending tens of millions on advertising to attract fish, whilst NoIQ only advertise to only higher volume players. This is not a long term solution to a poker network.

You can't have a number of iPoker sites who have pumped in tens of millions over years to attract fish, then along comes another NoIQ, pays a fee to join the network, and then they just try to steal the best of the existing iPoker sites players. You were very, very lucky not to be kicked off when you moved to iPoker - when rakeback was banned yet you got all players on 30% rakeback. You were only kicked off for a week which was very lucky.

This led to lots of other sites getting annoyed, and hence iPoker implemented the deposits - withdrawls policy.

However, from a good friend of mine who would know about this, you were kicked off because of rakeback violations (hardly surprising when your VIP system is non-existant, except for at the highest when it says 'contact our player manager').

sorry if this seems like a personal attack, it is not. I just prefer fishier games and NoIQ really hindered this, and so hindered my winnings.

anyways, I'll stop my ramblings, there are many more important things than this, but it's something I've been conscious of and it's good to get it off my chest

Hi,

First of all the VIP system exist for everyone and is the same for everyone. If you are small or big you still get the same VIP system that have been approved by ipoker.
It’s not on the main page since ipoker don't want us to have it there as advertising reason. In fact, if you look at affs sites you can see that no one write about our vip system in details (perhaps some)
So, what you say is not a fact that we try to hide it.
NoiQ applied for the VIP system and waited 2 months before it got approved.
Not sure anyone else did that. If it gives 30 % or 95 % or what ever. Does not matter really, ipoker approved it after testing it.

Now,
Here is the answer of the rest what you say. Believe it or not;

Race; NoiQ have asked ipoker if they liked NoiQ to stop the races. They said ”we have no problem with the race."

NoiQ also offered ipoker that they could stop the VIP system and change it to the same as many others have on ipoker. They said we have no problem with your VIP system.

NoiQ asked ipoker if they could implement the rule that you could not register on NoiQ if you had another ipoker account and only for NoiQ. Meaning, this would only affect NoiQ and no other rooms. NoiQ wanted this because they said "We don’t want players from other sites on ipoker"

(please read this again. It's the truth and proves that what you are saying is not correct)

Ipoker said no to this.

Now, if you don’t believe this then ask your friend to call Yair at ipoker or David at playtech because they were both in the meeting when NoiQ said this.

This offer was also sent by mail to ipoker about a year ago. Tain also know about this if someone like to check with them.

You can say what you like but the main reason NoiQ have gotten problems is because other card rooms are mad and scared on NoiQ. These sportsbook complain to ipoker a lot. Titan has also pushed a lot.

Not sure if this is correct or not but somone told me "Titan's ceo demanded ipoker to kick out NoiQ"
What is true is that Titan is now telling everyone to withdraw from NoiQ and offer everyone 45 % Rakeback.

Not everything is as you think. Meet NoiQ in real life and you will see what kind of people they are.

www.Maltapokertour.com

Hosted by NoiQ this year. Spending a lot load of cash on their players.
This was not to market for new players but give their players a great time.
This cost a lot.

I respect what you are saying since you sound like a normal person but I don’t agree. What makes me mad, is all the lies from does who tries to hurt NoiQ.

Anyway, NoiQ is happy to leave. You and ipoker might be happy for NoiQ to leave. So, let's make the players decide where they like to play in the future.

Last edited by fastup; 12-26-2008 at 01:57 PM.
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12-26-2008 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ColdDecker333
Could you please stop speculating about Ongame already. Read the motherfuxing third post in the thread!



Ongame has the slowest game play in the industry so it is not it.

Actually the only two networks that have "much faster game play" than iPoker are Prima and Entraction so it's either one of those for sure.
I reed somewhere that ongame is working in a software upgrade for the begginning of next year...
If they are doing this, makes sence that NoIQ joins Ongame

However I believe Ongame does not allow any races because the games became more tight (this was said by someone in the hollywood lobby chat) and does not allow any rakeback. They only offer bonuses and special offers for big players

Last edited by Vodkas; 12-26-2008 at 01:52 PM.
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12-26-2008 , 02:09 PM
fastup, since you seem to know many things regarding noiq, could you at least comment whether the bonus offers on the new network will be dealt or contributed ?

And, no, I am not a shortstacking nit, but I believe my 16/9/1.5 style (only playing limit full ring) prefers dealt rather than contributed...
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12-26-2008 , 02:14 PM
the only sites using dealt: Stars, FTP, iPoker, Party(?), Cake, Crypto
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12-26-2008 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by iparout
fastup, since you seem to know many things regarding noiq, could you at least comment whether the bonus offers on the new network will be dealt or contributed ?

And, no, I am not a shortstacking nit, but I believe my 16/9/1.5 style (only playing limit full ring) prefers dealt rather than contributed...
No one knows. NoiQ keep this tight to their chest. Sorry
Need to wait until the 29th
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12-26-2008 , 02:33 PM
only thing i know IS
NO US
with SPORTSBOOK
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