Hello Everyone!

I would like to share with you thoughts and suspicions about some of the players from Serbia, Bosnia and Croatia playing on NL50-400. I created a thread 2 days ago on a Russian poker forum “Gipsyteam”, where me and our colleagues discussed these players. In this thread, I would like to share with the community what we have concluded together.

About 4 months ago I had my suspicions that Uskebasi_1 and drug_tito15 are very similar players with similar traits. However Uskebasi_1 has advised that this is not true.

Stats Uskebasi:






and drug_tito15:








At that point of time, I didn't have enough of playing distance to support my suspicion. When I had enough hands accumulated on both of these players, I saw that they are identical, and their winrates are huge. I decided to share with my thoughts in poker room chat with a fellow Russian player LuckyDXX about these particular players and some other similar players from Serbia and Croatia from the same limits. After our discussion Uskebasi_1, joined our table (meaning that he saw the whole talk we had). After this, he was gone for 3 days from the poker room, only drug_tito15 was playing.

Yesterday I got a message from Uskebasi_1 in skype:



It was very interesting where he got the info about LuckyDXXX, that he has a new theory about his manipulations etc. He probably Is also still not aware that I created a thread about him.

Then, after this conversation I talked to LuckyDXXX in skype:






To sum up: I asked him if he talked with anyone about our conversation and Lucky said that he talked only with another reg in the poker room. What gets interesting is that at that time, only drug_tito15 was online! So Uskebasi_1 couldn’t have read about this “new theory” . More over LuckyDXXX said that , that day drug_tito15 started chatting in the same manner as Uskebasi_1 used to. And Uskebasi_1 doesnt know drug_tito15.



4 months ago 2 players with the same stats and “talking style” have disappeared. Bosnian player Jazavac273 (with the same huge winrate) and M4sturbinho.

Stats Jazavac273:






Stats M4sturbinho:






Please also notice that m4sturbinho started from NL200 then slowly moved to NL20 and then eventually disappeared.

Exactly at this time period drug_tito15 and 1 more Serbian guy Zvrc011(going to talk about him soon) appeared. Also one of our colleagues on gipsyteam said that he had interesting situation that happened to him with two of these players Uskabasi_1 and Jazavac273. “I join the table, and sat on the right side of the recreational player. Uskebasi did the opposite, he sat always on the left side of the same player. When he did that numerous times, I started to do the same to him. When he sits down, I reseated myself to the left of him. We started to do this for several minutes. Uskebasi_1 got pissed, and left the table. After few seconds Jazavac273 appears and does with me the same exact thing. This immediately became suspicious to me, and I thought that its either the same guy who is playing from two accounts, or there is a group of people who team play”.



In summary we have 2 players that disappeared 4 months ago with huge winrates. At the same time appears from nowhere drug_tito15 who starts owning NL50-400. What is more interesting, when drug_tito15 appeared, Uskebasi_1 disappeared for 2 weeks. IT was October, you can see this in the screenshots. When I became suspicious (4 months ago) and brought my thoughts to the public, suddenly drug_tito15 started playing less and less in November. This is why I believe that uskebasi_1 and drug_tito15 is the same person who has either multiple accounts or has some kind of helpers. However I believe that it is hard to play on your own with such winrates with 2 accounts at the same time. This is why I think that cheating is involved.

After i went through the number of hands played during a month- I noticed, Tito appeared in October and played 3 times more hands than Uskebasi, Jazavak also played much more than Uskebasi. In november when the poker room had some maintenance issues, Uskebasi didnt play at all, but Jazavak and Tito played a little bit (looks like the new account was being tested). LAter on, Jazavak dissapears but Drug_tito15 and Uskebas_1 continue playing .

I kindly ask 888 to investigate these players, as well as Jazavac273 and M4sturbinho.

Now lets talk about other Serbian and Croatian from these limits. Bustokid( on gipsyteam we came to conclusion that this person is not involved), Zvrc011, exprosjak273 and sdakotakid as well as Croatians: boki59, pu55y_sl4y3r.
I decided to compare their stats:

Stats Zvrc011:







Zvrc011 came out from nowhere same as drug_tito and is playing with winrates: 10bb on 100-600 limit.

Stats SDakotaKid:






Stats exPROsjak:







Stats boki59:








Please also take a look: 2 months ago Boki59 was mixing NL20 and NL600.

Stats pu55y_sl4y3r:







Please take a look pu55y_sl4y3r was mixing NL20-NL400.


At first I noticed that these player have very similar playing style.

There is only slight difference in preflop as well as postflop. I think that a helper can be adjusted in such manner, so that there could be a slight difference in the stats. In the gipsyteam thread, 2 Serbian guys Bustokid and Pekson12 responded. They said that they know all the players except drug_tito15.

I noticed that these 2 players always play in pair, they come and leave almost at the same time . Then the same happens with the other 2 nicknames. What is weird, once they were aware of the gipsyteam thread, immediately they started playing 3-4 players(these nicknames) at the same time, rather than playing as they used to in pairs. I suggest that all these players are either team playing, and have their own “crime group”. Or they all use the same helper from Uskebasi_1. I am pretty sure that all of them are aware of this, because their poker community is very small. There is a chance that some of them are not a part of this, but I highly doubt this.

Arguments that they all are from different countries etc, are not really valid, because its not that hard to find a “new” passport online and create a separate account from another country. Just as an example, there were a lot of GTO bots, from the same source(owner), coming from different post soviet countries.

add about exPROsjak: he wrote post on gipsyteam and said their nick on pokerstars.





1.5bb winrate on nl25 stars, but 8.5bb winrate on nl 100-200 888 with different stats.

I see you didn't write me here as a bot but you did on russian forum (aPieceOfMe). Most of croatian guys you mentioned there I either know (have them on skype), talked with them on tables or know them from few years back from croatian poker forum (pokerpro).
I have uskebasi on skype and talked with him many times, he is known in community for long time, he coached a lot of these guys you mentioned on both forums and is probably still friends with a lot of them so similiar "style" is not surprising.
Boki, drug_tito and pussy slayer are also not bots for sure.. I talked (or just received some insult (yeah that happenes between fellow countrymen ) with them on the tables on few occasions.
Btw, you think it is ok that you post these stats graphs etc? It's not like you played all these hands..

EDIT: I can understand your concerns as I play on ipoker also and there are a lot of rumors that there are many bots.. But I feel 888 takes care more about these things since I remember there were many bans going on in last 2 years.

The arguments that you have given are not enough in our time. In the russian community there is a person holding bots , everyone knows that he does that, he is writing posts on forums etc. You probably do not understand the right meaning of a bot. In our times, a person sits in front of a computer, and he has a helper (program that assists him in making decisions,actions etc). That person freely chats in the poker room as well, to have less suspicions. I posted all the hand, not from my database, but from a publicly available database website. Statistics is just one of the arguments, there are many more examples of shady behavior on these accounts.

great hypocrisy
I'm pretty sure there are no bots in croatian community.. I never heard of any suspicions, any shady talks etc..

Man...someone must have tilted you hard. Boki59 here. I was coached some 3 years ago by Uskebasi and pekson12 and was in their CFP program. I also know some of the guys you mentioned, met some of them in person, talked with some through social media. I am mixing NL20 and NL600? I play NL100 and NL200 95% of the time, very rarely NL400 and very rarely NL50 as well. I played less than 300 NL600 hands in my life for sure. Anyway, I don't really see what are you trying to say with this whole thing, so I will give to you a simple proposition. I will save you the trouble investigating me. What can I do to make you believe you are delusional? I'm here. Any evidence you need from me, within reasonable limits. If I give you what you ask for, and you still don't believe, then you are probably one of those flat earth society guys.

P.S. consider buying one http://www.propdb.org/props/i-want-believe-poster

Wow what accusations.
It looks like every player who is not fish has to be from Russia.

You wrote this exact same thing 6 moths ago, after which you admitted you were wrong, I hope you will take consequences if proven wrong again.

First of all I start my sessions arround 22h and play until 3-4h, second of all drug_tito15 is coming arround that time when I'm finishing and I think he plays whole afternoon, I saw him couple of times playing when I woke up and opened 888. I would have to sleep at some point don't you think?

And my bro, are you realy serious ... Is it possible, playing from two accounts in same time ( uskebasi and drugtito ) 13-14 hours + every day and have winrates 20 and 14 bb+?

Beside that I see here huge differences in stats.
I've been coaching many people and had coaching for profit programe two years ago where many players from Serbia and Croatia joined and started playing on 888 poker.
Links for that, using google tanslation.

http://pokerasi.com/forum/showthread...ing-for-profit


http://www.pokersrbija.com/forum/top...ng-for-profit/


Regarding skype accusations...

I don't know where you got idea I wrote you message as soon as I saw luckydxx-a accousations...
I saw his messages on chat about an hour after I ended my session, which is arround 4-5 AM, he was chatting with some Russian about drugtito15 and me being same person...
Every time I end my session I play casino at least for an hour or two and leave 2 open tables in case fish comes along ( 403 level )

https://gyazo.com/a81c0dec5e96167defa3e60596b7ea8d



so I saw this chatting and I sent you message when I woke up which was arround 1-2PM.

I really don't know what more to say about this other then I hope you will be the one takeing consequences for this heavy accusations of many people.

I hope you wil be punish for shareing that tracking results other players.
I think its ilegal.

Gl my russian bro.

I even have an idea, and I'm NOT kidding. Why don't you come over to my place? All you have to do is buy an airplane ticket, I'm sure you can afford that. I will let you stay with me, you can watch me play, my mom will cook for us (yeah I know it's lame, I still live with my parents). I'm sure you will enjoy since you are from Belarus, and I live by the seaside, so if you come during the summer you have a free summer vacation on the sea. What do you say?

I missed this part...FFS, you seem to know an awful lot about some things. Never knew it was that easy to make a freakin passport. Also it seems like you know a lot about how bots are made and how they function. I might reconsider having someone like that in my home.

Bulba is a fool.
I know personaly everyone you mentioned and its complete nonsence.
You russians obv think that you are only people in the world that can discuss strategy and other poker stuff on forums.
Yes. People in balkan also have internet and access to forums.
Sou didnt mention me, but i also was in the couching group that uskebasi and pekson had.
There was 20+ people.
And yes, we are all huge winners couse of them.
The moment you wrote that post ive realized why you arent good at poker.
It you think that those stats are similar you are fool.
Preflop its close between few people but postflop its completely different.
I really dont understand how dont you see this.
Also, if you didnt realized till now how big difference is between 10bb winner and 20bb winner you shouldnt post stuff like that. Its huge difference. Thats the reason why uskebasi is most consistent player on whole network.

So Bulba? No questions? No requests? You want my birth certificate? You have your "criminal" locked up, and he is ready to talk, but you don't even know what to ask. It seems that you are one bad investigator. As I told you, you are always welcome at my place, as well as all other fellow regs, which accused me of scripting numerous times in this thread. I'm a scripter, a bot, I'm faking passports, what's next? Child abuse? I never answered to any of previous accusations, but you really crossed the line with this one.

This is hipocricy at its best.

When i cant sit on the table because of all table scripters from ex-SSSR and when you see a table where are only players from ex-SSSR and one weak player, that is okay, but when there is 3 players from Balkan on the same table, that is cheating, colluding, using advisors and everything available on market? DDDDDDDDD
And when we are about bots, advisors and all that stuff, arent actually the Russians those who are always providing solutions for everything, they have bots, they have table scripts, they have HUD on snap tables and ratio between Balkan and ex-SSSR is at least 1:5 on 888 network and problem is Balkan integrity and not ex-SSSR, while they are always accused of camping, seat scripting, bot playing etc etc. This accusations are ridicoulus.

And their argument is also they are playing at the same time and in teams, LOL
So we should play when there is no traffic, probably around noon so you can be happy? DDDDDDDDDd There are obvious reasons why is network most crowded from 10-11PM untill the morning, but yeah, mastermind Bulba discovered that all regular players are on network at the same time, WOW, what a revelation.

This guy is a complete joke and what is most sad, he is like a abandoned kid in school who is trying to get attention, so he decide to cry to his school teacher, this kind of behaviour i saw in elementary school. And its funniest that he already accused Uskebasi who is biggest midstakes winner on network for years and 888 did their research, but no, he came back with new theory after few months, dude, there are girls on the streets, sun on the sky, please leave your basement and enjoy life!

People here already responded to your unfounded allegations so will not write too much.

Although I was not mentioned here, I feel urge to write something, because these guys are from our (serbia, balkan) poker scene and I personaly know most of them. Uskebasi and I worked a lot together on our game, we had some students (still have few), I met jazavac and worked a bit with him also, I coached boki, pu557 sl4yer, exprosjak, sdakota kid (who is my younger brother) and I know who is zvrc011. So i can say for those guys that they are not bots for sure.

iirc u said uskebasi is bot, after that he proved u were wrong, u apologized. Then on russian forum u said that some of those guys are bots, u mentioned gruja (bustokid) and after admited u were wrong again. Now u are claiming that uskebasi and drug tito are the same guy, but there are some obv differences in their stats (cbet stats, steal stats, agg....). I mean, even if I compare my stats to uskebasi/drug tito/who ever I can find some similiar stats. Even stats of those "bots" from serbia and croatia have huge differences, and I saw a lot of bots before and can for sure say no one from them has this kind of style. But yeah, as someone mentioned, maybe we are genious and made some new great bots although noone from us is playing above nl400. Seems logically

About pussy slayer and his mixing of levels - is it forbiden to do that? Wtf? I mean, he is still my student, he was in the biggest downswing in his career, thats the reason if u have to know.

There are many more illogical claims, but most of there were answered already...

*

actually after reading this one more time, I would change one thing in my previous post. I thing boki is bot and there is only one way for him to prove opposite. So if he wants to invite me to his city on seaside during summer I will be happy to reconsider my claims.

I can already see you, uskebasi, bulba and me drinking cocktails and watching sunsets...

Playing at different times?





You're lying. Maybe the Serbian and Croatian players do not know about your machinations and do not want to believe it, because you are their idol. For me it's obvious about you and drug_tito15. You have a very narrow community and I do not believe that you, as a coach, do not know the best student. Maybe you play without a bot-programme, but multi-account for sure, although it's more believable in the bot-programme.I also did not receive an answer from anyone: who is drug_tito15? and where is Jazavac273?
*As for other Serbian and Croatian players, I'm not sure, I expressed my own and not only my assumptions. If they are innocent, then they have nothing to fear and I will apologize to them.

I played over 100k hands this year, 2k on same tables with this guy.

https://gyazo.com/214a4b25441b8bfaea8cb23951529133

I started sessions usually in 10PM, he much later and hes playing 1-3PM often. Me never.

Sherlock Holmes, how is possible one person can playing every day 14 hours and more and have a winrate 14 and 20bb? And from different countries? If i have more nicks (Zvrc11) thats additional hours ( i saw Zvrc sometimes playing in 7PM when I sometimes played casino ).

Am I supermen, when i sleep?

I played more than 150k hands, with you we have only 1k hands and with other players, with whom I often do not cross even 2k hands. I hm does not accurately display the time, 2-3 hours like a difference, I do not know exactly. The point is that most of the time you play at the same time. Someone starts earlier, someone else finishes. Zvrc011 has nothing to do with the two of you. I think not problems to find croatin passport or find player and take him bot-programm.

I do not see any reason to continue this discussion, tk. nothing new you do not tell me. Next, let him understand the support.

Where did I say Tito was my student? I coached many peoples outside coaching for profit programs, for money, a long time ago, pay per hour. Atleast 30 people in 5 years, even some mtt players. Should I keep a contact with everyone? And besides, my style of the game has nothing to do with his, and I'm sure of that.

You can find Drugtito all hand history ( i see its not problem for you ) and just watch red line and other parameters, in my sample him red line down and down, mine no...

https://gyazo.com/824476bbcfb7bf2ed16b004ba340b564

For example 3 bet 8,7 ... my 3bet IP 8,3 and OOP 9,0 ... Drug tito IP 9,8 and OOP 7,8 ...
My steal btn 53, him 45 and many others different stats...

But i agree with you in one, this discusion is over.
I will never again talk to the Russians, no chat, no forums nothing.

If 888 support contacting me ( for 4,5 years none warning, my name has never been mentioned in this thread ... no scripting, no 4 handed sitout ... ) i will answer any questions.

[QUOTE=ilovebulba;53591801]Hello Everyone!



Stats Uskebasi:






Hi 888Rep, can I report player ilovebulba because he shared my ( and more many others player ) all time stats and others info?

Ty advanced.

My nick is same...

Actually, i dont care to much couse i know this accusations are not justified, but its just rude that croatian, serbian and bosnian players need to prove something.
The same way i can pull @ilovebulba and 10 more ex SSSR players stats and say the same thing.
Do you @ilovebulba can honestly say that its impossible to find players with similar stats as yours between you and your buddys?
If you continue with this sort of nonsence, ill spend some time and do for russians the same thing you are doing for croatians. I have enough time to mess with your life like you are doing with ours.
Its just stupid.

Come on guys, put the ball down. No need for this, no need for making this into some kind of russians vs balkan war or w/e. Or making this thing like it is some kind of messing with someone's life...

Everyone has right to have doubts, it is even healthy to question things all the time. Bulba obv likes conspiracy theories a bit too much... But also everyone would like to be accused when there is some kind of evidence and not just pure speculations.

Is this what 888poker has come to? Lol so sad. Glad I left this site.

Teach me how to 20bb/100 over 800k hands

As an outsider.. I don't see much proof. Stats are somewhat similar but they do have different styles and postflop stats.

This site loses about 60% of hands, so you can calm down, your real results it does not display, only stats.

Why can't you guys start a new thread , FFS I am tired of all the BS posted in here.

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The issue of camping on cash tables has been constantly reported to you Rep and yet it still exists. I don't play on 888 anymore but do log in to see if the currency rip off, chatbox moved, and cheaters removed issues I have with the site are resolved as I will never invest a penny unless the first and third are dealt with.

I played on Party for a month but they don't have chat bubbles and no one chats which is boring so I moved to Pokerstars which was a great move. They have everything I want and none of the issues that are on 888.

One thing that both Party and Stars does makes you guys look like the amateurs that ye are is the issue of table camping. On Party if a table becomes inactive a warning comes up to say if play is not resumed within 3 mins the table will close. On Pokerstars if a table becomes inactive a message comes up saying the table will close in 30s if play is not resumed. Problem solved.

I have raised this already on your community site and no one has taken it on board. Are you going to keep putting up with the endless complaints and have players saying they are wasting their time reporting it to you as nothing is done?

Such a simple solution to a simple problem but I think there is more to why 888 allows this to continue on the site.

It is a possibility that 888 wants people visiting its site to believe that the tables are busier than they truly are as a large amount of the tables you see when you visit the cash section are not even active.

Let me know when you want to upgrade from an amateur outfit 888 and address the issues with your site and I may just come back one day.

I have sent your feedback over to the team for you.
Thanks!