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10-25-2011 , 02:42 PM
Dear 888Rep,
I started a thread elsewhere on this, but can you tell me why 888 increased the rake on reg speed SnGs from the 10 dollar level (it was 5% but now is 7.5% to 10% up to the 100 dollar level)? I can see that the amount of volume today at this time compared to yesterday cut dramatically as anyone with a brain that likes to play these levels with any expectation of making money knows that it just got much harder to do so to say nothing of making PStars with fully less than half the rake at these levels a much more attractive option even considering the DoJ action.

Very bad long-term move.
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10-25-2011 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Heave
the rake is atrocious,VIP rake back is bullcrap for micro/lowlimit players, since FTP had 27% rakeback for people that put 0 or 100% volume into their game, the same should be applied to 888 poker, also they should make FR cash game Video poker tables, and enable us to Multi table them. Also the Add friend/Player search/Friend Search feature should be added.Someone forward, my post to the 888 poker staff these points are very important in order for you to improve your POKER room.
All your points are excellent as I thought the same earlier, though I am too peeved by the bump up in rakes today on reg speed SnGs to care anymore about improvement in 888. Instead of copying PStars rake and being a great value "safe/legal/unencumbered by DoJ action" site that can dominate the market they do the opposite and increase rakes to ridiculous PartyPoker levels while doing nothing about the use of bots and cheating by sponsored Pros like Dooshcom on their site.

Sure maybe the fish don't care or know the difference as they blow their first deposit, but players that return a few hundred dollars (and above) in rake month in and month out do notice and will leave.
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10-25-2011 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by justonemoretime
Dear 888Rep,
I started a thread elsewhere on this, but can you tell me why 888 increased the rake on reg speed SnGs from the 10 dollar level (it was 5% but now is 7.5% to 10% up to the 100 dollar level)? I can see that the amount of volume today at this time compared to yesterday cut dramatically as anyone with a brain that likes to play these levels with any expectation of making money knows that it just got much harder to do so to say nothing of making PStars with fully less than half the rake at these levels a much more attractive option even considering the DoJ action.

Very bad long-term move.
Yeah, this is pretty ridic, I was 90% going to move >50% of my action to this site until hearing about this. I expect a pretty hefty traffic drop due to this, prob big enough to make the decision itself -ev for them to do in the first place.
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10-25-2011 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by AntiHer0
Yeah, this is pretty ridic, I was 90% going to move >50% of my action to this site until hearing about this. I expect a pretty hefty traffic drop due to this, prob big enough to make the decision itself -ev for them to do in the first place.
I really hope traffic collapses (Literally there is no one playing the new 11 dollar (formerly 10.50 dollar) reg speed HU SnG for near the last half hour when you could find a handful of regs like myself on it at this hour tangling with fish and drop-ins). It is just so stupid considering they have a legislative advantage over PStars yet choose not to sell that edge while matching their rake.

I can't in good conscience continue to play 888 SnGs when faced with a doubling in rake at the 10 dollar level and a 50 percent increase at the 20 dollar level (where I played). I overlooked their horrible rakebake until now as a price to pay for security from government action for my fun and small profit, but an uneconomical doubling of rake even for an 11 % ROI player is too much to tolerate. DoJ action be damned, but I have to go back to Pstars now (though I won't leave more than a couple hundred in the account at any time ... says the FTP victim that still has around 2500 stuck there)

Bad play 888. Bad play.
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10-25-2011 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 888Rep

Not sure why they said it doesn't work on Windows 7. None of that sounds correct. I'll follow up with this e-mail as well as your issue.
Any chance you had any result? Cause I havent heard anything since that mail (which I replied to as well) and am really about ready to just withdraw all funds and go to a different site... not because I disliked playing on 888 but cause I simply cannot play anymore.
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10-25-2011 , 06:20 PM
Wtf??!

Why in the world would you remove 1 of the 2 hu turbos for registration? This will not increase action... what are you thinking?
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10-25-2011 , 06:23 PM
1. Resizable Lobby.
2. Remember Table layouts.
3. 888 Rake is terrible!.
4. Improve Rewards/Rakeback (not just add new lower levels which provide no additional benefits vs. old bronze) e.g. the new Bronze level should give x1.5 Rewards points per Status point.
5. Option to "trade-in" bonus freeroll for either cash, tickets, Status points/Reward points. I'm in a time zone that puts the $3000- freeroll in the middle of the night AND I play PLO not NLHE, so the option of being able to trade the entry for ANYTHING else would be good.
6. Some sort of PLO promo for those who play and to encourage new players to try it.
7. Provide "cash" rewards or bumps in Status level for useful feedback.
8. More PLO tournaments - They seem to always surpass the GNTD amount, so more, so they are available 24/7 and/or run more frequently so you can play in multiple PLO tournaments at the same time. Perhaps offer a range of buyins starting within 30min-1hour period.
9. Increase PLO Tournaments GTND amounts, since they seem to always surpass the GNTD amount.
10. Bring back the weekly $1000 GNTD PLO freezeout tournament (used to run Sunday night/Monday Morning depending on your time zone).
11. Consider adding a Monthly PLO Tournament with a big GNTD amount (Have satellites etc.)

Oh and did I mention giving away free stuff to us for providing valuable feedback for a commercial business. Yeah, I think that would be fair.

PLOhi
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10-25-2011 , 10:40 PM
888, party, carbon/skins or pokerstars are the only real options for poker sites.. I wish a 888 rep would respond to one of my 100 emails asking if they allow credit card withdrawals..
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10-26-2011 , 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by OWLS
Wtf??!

Why in the world would you remove 1 of the 2 hu turbos for registration? This will not increase action... what are you thinking?
exactly! what happened to the lobbies? no poker room on earth has only ONE lobby for hu regspeed/turbo registration?

since yesterday all heads up sit&gos have only one lobby, from 10$ to 2k$ this is not normal. i hope you fix this as fast as possible. it's a massive inconvenience for all of us. just put another regspeed and another turbo for each stake as it was before
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10-26-2011 , 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Regis49
exactly! what happened to the lobbies? no poker room on earth has only ONE lobby for hu regspeed/turbo registration?

since yesterday all heads up sit&gos have only one lobby, from 10$ to 2k$ this is not normal. i hope you fix this as fast as possible. it's a massive inconvenience for all of us. just put another regspeed and another turbo for each stake as it was before
+1 from another HU SNG reg in pac.
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10-26-2011 , 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by PLOhi
Oh and did I mention giving away free stuff to us for providing valuable feedback for a commercial business. Yeah, I think that would be fair.
PLOhi
I think the 888 managers and programmers know exactly how the client should look like and what options/functions should be in it. I'm sure they all played on FT/PS and see the differences. Is there a law that forbids to copy the best clients? Not their skin obviously.
Stars has one of the worst rakeback offers for low level players, and 888 is even worse. On Stars the Silverstar rakeback is about 11% +Stellar Rewards which makes it close to 20%. While 888 gives about 4% to Silvers. With the reload bonuses we can get more, but who the hell wants to deposit every month? I'm not complaining yet because I'm still clearing my first deposit bonus, so I consider it as a 20% rakeback. I will try to reach Gold next month, but the lack of traffic in 10-20 dollar sng's makes it hard. And my laziness.
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10-26-2011 , 07:08 AM
Does anyone know if I can exchange a step ticket for money. Played a step 1 for aussie millions and won a step 2 but would prefer if i could just cash in the ticket rather than have to play step 2.

Been a while since I've played online and I remember party poker would allow this but couldn't find anything on 888, all I could find is that I have already been registered for step 2 tomorrow.
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10-26-2011 , 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by atisz
I think the 888 managers and programmers know exactly how the client should look like and what options/functions should be in it. I'm sure they all played on FT/PS and see the differences. Is there a law that forbids to copy the best clients? Not their skin obviously.
Stars has one of the worst rakeback offers for low level players, and 888 is even worse. On Stars the Silverstar rakeback is about 11% +Stellar Rewards which makes it close to 20%. While 888 gives about 4% to Silvers. With the reload bonuses we can get more, but who the hell wants to deposit every month? I'm not complaining yet because I'm still clearing my first deposit bonus, so I consider it as a 20% rakeback. I will try to reach Gold next month, but the lack of traffic in 10-20 dollar sng's makes it hard. And my laziness.
Even less traffic now since they doubled the rake.
As you note, they should just copy what PokerStars offers (which would be far far better than what 888 now provides) and use their edge at being safe-not being prosecuted by DoJ-publicly listed to drive new business. You have to wonder if the guys they have making decisions have ever played internet poker or looked at what competitors are doing that works.
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10-26-2011 , 10:17 AM
Tried searching the thread for the monthly reload bonus. Is the code something like this: "888RELOAD3"? Does the code change monthly? Where can I get the new one?
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10-26-2011 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by justonemoretime
Dear 888Rep,
I started a thread elsewhere on this, but can you tell me why 888 increased the rake on reg speed SnGs from the 10 dollar level (it was 5% but now is 7.5% to 10% up to the 100 dollar level)? I can see that the amount of volume today at this time compared to yesterday cut dramatically as anyone with a brain that likes to play these levels with any expectation of making money knows that it just got much harder to do so to say nothing of making PStars with fully less than half the rake at these levels a much more attractive option even considering the DoJ action.

Very bad long-term move.
I'm not sure why these changes have been made. I've asked for an explanation and voiced the negative feedback.

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Originally Posted by AntiHer0
is there any way I can save my preferred table layout on 888? I want to tile and when I get all my tables open I can click on 'tile', but then when I exit the tables and start again the tables open at regular size and at diff spots. Would be cool if 888 could remember your layout. Kinda tilting when multitabling not to have this feature.
Not at the moment. However there exists software that can do it for you that some 888 members on here use. If you can't find any info in this thread, the 888 Regulars thread will have it for sure.

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Originally Posted by dutchnub
Any chance you had any result? Cause I havent heard anything since that mail (which I replied to as well) and am really about ready to just withdraw all funds and go to a different site... not because I disliked playing on 888 but cause I simply cannot play anymore.
Just sent it direct to a Manager. I'll let you know as soon as I hear.

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Originally Posted by OWLS
Wtf??!

Why in the world would you remove 1 of the 2 hu turbos for registration? This will not increase action... what are you thinking?
Again, no idea. Have inquired. Will let you guys know the deal as soon as I hear.

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Originally Posted by PLOhi
1. Resizable Lobby.
2. Remember Table layouts.
3. 888 Rake is terrible!.
4. Improve Rewards/Rakeback (not just add new lower levels which provide no additional benefits vs. old bronze) e.g. the new Bronze level should give x1.5 Rewards points per Status point.
5. Option to "trade-in" bonus freeroll for either cash, tickets, Status points/Reward points. I'm in a time zone that puts the $3000- freeroll in the middle of the night AND I play PLO not NLHE, so the option of being able to trade the entry for ANYTHING else would be good.
6. Some sort of PLO promo for those who play and to encourage new players to try it.
7. Provide "cash" rewards or bumps in Status level for useful feedback.
8. More PLO tournaments - They seem to always surpass the GNTD amount, so more, so they are available 24/7 and/or run more frequently so you can play in multiple PLO tournaments at the same time. Perhaps offer a range of buyins starting within 30min-1hour period.
9. Increase PLO Tournaments GTND amounts, since they seem to always surpass the GNTD amount.
10. Bring back the weekly $1000 GNTD PLO freezeout tournament (used to run Sunday night/Monday Morning depending on your time zone).
11. Consider adding a Monthly PLO Tournament with a big GNTD amount (Have satellites etc.)

Oh and did I mention giving away free stuff to us for providing valuable feedback for a commercial business. Yeah, I think that would be fair.

PLOhi
As always, cheers

Will see what kind of goodies I can stir up.

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Originally Posted by CanuckAvenger
I wish a 888 rep would respond to one of my 100 emails asking if they allow credit card withdrawals..
Hey mate. I'm sorry, I'm not getting any e-mails from users on 2+2. I'm not sure why.

I know you can deposit via CC, but I'll get a quick response about cashing out to CC's and get back to you.

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Originally Posted by TardGuard
Does anyone know if I can exchange a step ticket for money. Played a step 1 for aussie millions and won a step 2 but would prefer if i could just cash in the ticket rather than have to play step 2.

Been a while since I've played online and I remember party poker would allow this but couldn't find anything on 888, all I could find is that I have already been registered for step 2 tomorrow.
To make a long answer short - no.

Tourney tokens are not in place yet, so if you satellite to a game, you can't unregister for that game.


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Originally Posted by GoGetaRealJob
Tried searching the thread for the monthly reload bonus. Is the code something like this: "888RELOAD3"? Does the code change monthly? Where can I get the new one?
The last 4 numbers change with the month and the year. 1111 coming up.
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10-26-2011 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CanuckAvenger
888, party, carbon/skins or pokerstars are the only real options for poker sites.. I wish a 888 rep would respond to one of my 100 emails asking if they allow credit card withdrawals..
Hey, found the info for you. You can find the details here:
http://www.888poker.com/banking/cash...out-policy.htm


Cliff notes -

No, credit card cashouts are not available in Canada. Three easy alternatives are:
- Cheque (30 days)
- Wire Transfer (5-8 days)
- Moneybookers (3-5 days)

Personally I'm a fan of the wire transfer. Instant uploads and only 1 transaction to get the cash to your bank account.


Hope that helps.
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10-26-2011 , 04:26 PM
so 888RELOAD1111? sorry for being a slow pony
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10-26-2011 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GoGetaRealJob
so 888RELOAD1111? sorry for being a slow pony
correct
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10-26-2011 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 888Rep
Hey, found the info for you. You can find the details here:
http://www.888poker.com/banking/cash...out-policy.htm


Cliff notes -

No, credit card cashouts are not available in Canada. Three easy alternatives are:
- Cheque (30 days)
- Wire Transfer (5-8 days)
- Moneybookers (3-5 days)

Personally I'm a fan of the wire transfer. Instant uploads and only 1 transaction to get the cash to your bank account.


Hope that helps.
the help desk girl told me it was allowed.. do you guys charge fees for wire transfers?
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10-26-2011 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CanuckAvenger
the help desk girl told me it was allowed.. do you guys charge fees for wire transfers?
Argh, lemme follow up why she would have said that.

I don't believe there are any fees for Transfers from 888's end. I know TD Bank dings me $25. I set up one with PC Financial since it's a no-fee banking for Poker transactions.
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10-27-2011 , 03:03 AM
Help desk asked to confirm from support:

Since VIP status is determined by yearly points, do I have until 31st Dec to achieve it, or a year from the day I signed?
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10-27-2011 , 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by GoGetaRealJob
Help desk asked to confirm from support:

Since VIP status is determined by yearly points, do I have until 31st Dec to achieve it, or a year from the day I signed?
http://www.888poker.com/rewards/faq.htm#AnswerF
calendar year, so i guess you have 2 months left
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10-27-2011 , 07:26 AM
Rakemonster just sits out at a bunch of tables to data mine I assume.
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10-27-2011 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by CanuckAvenger
the help desk girl told me it was allowed.. do you guys charge fees for wire transfers?
There are no fees imposed by 888. Check with your bank first to make sure they don't have an incoming fee.

I have confirmed that 888 changed the policy this year and will pay to Canadian Credit Cards. Again, some cards have policies in place to not accept payments, so check with your CC company first.

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Originally Posted by GoGetaRealJob
Help desk asked to confirm from support:

Since VIP status is determined by yearly points, do I have until 31st Dec to achieve it, or a year from the day I signed?
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Originally Posted by atisz
http://www.888poker.com/rewards/faq.htm#AnswerF
calendar year, so i guess you have 2 months left
This is correct. Yearly Status Points are reset January 1st.
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10-27-2011 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by atisz
http://www.888poker.com/rewards/faq.htm#AnswerF
calendar year, so i guess you have 2 months left
Thx.
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