Or you can just go play at those sites if you feel their sit out time better suits your need poop in the middle of a session.

ya cuz thats exactly what 888 and their rep wants. this is not an unreasonable request ainec

I don't know if its an unreasonable request but it is unreasonable to get all pissy about it. I've been at 888 for 10 years and I can count on one hand the number of times I've been booted from a table due to insufficient sit out time, and I've even left the house to go get food several times.

what stakes are you playing? not sure if it changes like the timer to take seat but at msnl that's literally not possible unless you have a mcdonalds drive through window within arms reach of your window

The replies have been unreasonably pissy, imo. I have often been booted from a table. I've never taken the time to investigate it, but it seems like there are bugs in this area too. Sometimes I'll not get back to my comp after an hour and I'll still be at the table and sometimes I'm gone in under 5 minutes. It seems to me that a time limit would be more reasonable than an orbit limit.

Why are people so narrow minded? For example, poker rooms have a third-man walking rule. Why not suggest that as part of the solution to the camping issue? Fish sits out, a player sit out, then if another player sits out he'll get the quick boot.

There are so many possibilities for innovation, it's mind boggling, but a handful of players have an agreement amongst themselves as to the best way to catch fish and omg some players aren't playing along with them.

Plenty of evidence in this thread of regulars colluding to maximum their profit from fish and now they've enlisted the site to ensure that their system isn't disturbed. A "gentleman's agreement" is collusion. Sorry dude, there's no other way to see it.

Of course they are not included in this. They pay the rake and it's their own decision how to play. If they choose to sit out that is their right.

And I dont think I should even have to say this, but it's obviously -EV to sit-out so I dont know why anyone would complain about this :P

888rep what's the deal with the chat support hours being cut to one hour a day?

It's been explained and I understood. I'm fairly new to poker and was just wondering, so get off your high horse.

this is a not uncommon reaction, often referred to as "butthurt", when someone(s) has their delusion(s) systematically dismantled

similar to the reaction we would expect if someone were to tell a handicapped child that santa isn't real

Santa isn't real? FFS

That must a mistake as the chat support hours are.

no wonder youre stuck bumhunting midstakes on 888 judging by your logical skills...

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Getting pissy with a half wit troll is perfectly reasonable imo. It should be common sense that 888 doesn't want regs sitting out or sitting back in in perfect concert with the fish sitting out or in, fish that 888 is working hard to attract to the site. I'm not comfortable doing it but if I did I would fully expect 888 to take measures at some point, measures I'm probably not gonna like ranging from a software fix to banishment. You can say its hypocritical for a reg to complain about another reg maximizing ev in every was possible but I would say appearances matter, and at some point you need to show 888 the tiniest bit of respect.

Thanks but I was looking for some online help within this time frame this afternoon and got the message in my quote that chat was closed.

It's been the same the last couple of times I've been looking for support.

OK. So how is it working? According to pokerscout, this is the time of the peak volume on 888 and I see no PLO2k, PLO5k, NL2k or NL5k.

What I began by challenging is the "logic" that this new sitting out rule was somehow good for 888 or for the poker ecology. In fact, no one has attempted anything that resembles a logical argument. Now with the rule in place, these high stakes games still don't run. In the absence of any argument to the contrary, I'm forced to conclude that all this whining is self-serving.

Insult me and insult other posters if you will, but don't snipe at my ability to be logical when you haven't shown any ability for logic yourself. At least I can say that your "logic" is wrong, since the change has been made and there has been no impact on the liquidity of these game.

Oh wait. A PLO2k table got running while I was typing this. That changes everything.

Maybe if people would put some thought into their posts rather than making stupid comments about the amount of fibre in a person's diet, something positive could come out of this.

Money trickles upward, games get better at small stakes, they improve at high stakes.

I dont think its 888 intention to get a load of 2k+ running because of the changes.

On Stars there is 2 full tables of 5k PLO, 3 full tables of 2k PLO.

There are currently 180k players online on Stars.

What exactly are you expecting on 888? High stakes games to run around the clock?

what do you expect when the guy is whining that he cant take a crap for 15 minutes without being kicked out.

he legitimately has no other argument against their new policy which has been great for the highstakes PLO tables so far.

there have been dozens of 25-50 and 10-20 plo games running yesterday and the day before, a lot more than before. Some days nothing happens.

There used to be 500 players sitting (out) at $2knl now there are 0 sitting, therefore the poker ecology has been destroyed. Is that your logic?

What horse? I don't own a horse. Sorry if I was late to it, I was reading the thread and commented on your post. I didn't mean to be mean or anything. Sorry for trying to help.

As expected, not much in the way of intelligent response.

Normally I wouldn't waste my breathe responding to a half-wit troll, but there's an important fact here. If your number "500" is at all accurate, with 888's 6-table cap, that's a minimum of 84 sharks waiting for 1 fish. This is not a healthy ecosystem regardless of any table starting policies or software that is implemented. Of course, I know you're exaggerating, but a while back there was a screenshot showing 80 players sitting out = at least 14 sharks. The sharks can swim at the surface at 5/6 tables or lurk in deeper water with only 1 showing its ugly self, but it doesn't change the fundamental ratio and the fact that the environment is unhealthy.

Not only are you incapable of making a logical argument, you don't read well, or, more likely, you instantly dismiss anything that you read that you can't reconcile with your distorted view of reality.

The policy forces players to play HU at a 6-max table at a site which had the wisdom to shut down its HU tables. Of course you think this is great. Fact is, there are players who would play at a full table who will avoid playing HU. Surprises me that 888 would, in effect, bring back HU tables, even forcing unwilling players to play HU.

Also, we know that it's a policy that is being applied at the site's discretion, and we have had enough experience with how 888 uses its discretion.

What games do you play Arnie? I assume you play cash. What do you think about the games in the last few days/week since the waitlist big has improved and there less camping?

For me the camping was less of an issue then the waitlist but it was an issue of game integrity and when you see 3 guys from Latvia or Bulgaria sat out at one table it made me think
I was being team played so who knows what a fish thinks when they see that.

Party and Stars took a stance against campers so it's not some random thing 888 conjured up and decided to punish people for it.

Exactly, so why the **** are you whining about this new policy if you agree its no better or worse than the old policy? And I would argue its better for everybody involved except those few regs that obviously felt like they gained some kind of an advantage, but at least I admit its arguable.

why do i never get a time bank option? someone told me it was on the right side of the screen above the raise or fold options but it NEVER pops up for me, not even once........ do i have to enable it somewhere?


and for 888rep....... can i play via the website not through the client and 8 table cash games if i already have the client installed? if so can you supply a link to where please?