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meh....progressive prizepools is a cool concept.

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+10000 and bitcoin deposit/withdraw

And rakeback

so, about 20 min ago we had another total shutdown.. the website seems to indicate that the money i had in play hasnt yet been put back into my account... and the status page is dead. ... and all this after my body had said "WAKE UP, BE WIDE AWAKE AFTER ONLY 4 HOURS, USE THIS TIME TO EAT PIZZA AND PLAY POKER". So now all I have is pizza.

Slightly offtopic, but just so the person asking the question knows -- although this is a fairly standard rule online, it does frequently differ from house to house when playing live. Some places do "half of the prior raise reopens", some do "min raise is always the big blind", I've even seen a live game where if you put more chips in the pot than a call, but less than a valid raise, your chips are just orphaned in the pot. (and no the place where that was at doesn't exist anymore)

... and merge's network status thing just came back up, saying all systems are in scheduled maintenance. Either Carbon didn't get the notice, or doesn't bother to inform when there's "scheduled" maintenance .. or Merge doesn't know what "scheduled" means, as we've seen before.

Hello

what is merge ( carbon rakeback or cashback now a days ?

the update reset all the poker settings for me, its probably the same for every1.

just a heads up: if you have the habit of clicking the bet-slider to raise one more big blind (like me) now it snaps to wherever your click it, so some1 not paying close attention will raise 50 bbs pre.

auto-post is also checked, and you can still open individual tables by un-checking "grouped cash games" next to "advanced filter" and below "sports".

I'm not sure I agree with this because it's pretty widely known that playing poker in your house isn't exactly legal either but everyone and their mother does it. I think most of the people who want to play poker online WOULD if it wasn't a big hassle to get the money on and off. Also, the more states that make poker legal online will continue to tear down the notion that it's illegal.

It's feasible that most of those same players may not find bitcoins to be particularly easy as well and it's in this vein that I think it may not attract a lot more users (surely it would attract some regardless), but my hope is that bitcoins will gain some traction and increase in popularity. If that does happen and most people found it easy to do, then I think that could add a lot of liquidity to the player pool both in numbers and funds on the site.

To me, it has win-win potential. Players have a sure fire way to get money on and off the site. The site has less to worry about with processors and overhead fees. It ensures everyone on the globe who wants to has access to your site regardless assuming they have at least an Internet connection and some bitcoins.

I appreciate your opinion, but I just feel that the pool of players out there that 1. Aren't playing because they can't use their credit card and 2. Are completely in the know about bitcoin is extremely small. There are obv sites out there that offer this and you don't see players flocking to those sites. From my discussions in card rooms and from what I read online, the only people seriously pushing for bitcoin are people who are already online playing that want another cashier method.

Bitcoin just had a 5 million dollar theft from an online bank. The recreational players you want to deposit aren't savvy enough or will be afraid to use bitcoin because of stories like this. You want a schmoe who just types in his visa # and shoves tptk, that guy isn't using bitcoin even if he knew what that was.

I'm not exactly sure what to think about bitcoins. I've never used them. WPN's skins ACR and BCP are about to implement them for deposits and withdrawals, so I guess we'll have a chance to see how that goes.

Why do I always get the impression that these bitcoin posters on this forum are just people who have invested in bitcoins. They always sound like they are trying to sell the idea of bitcoins to people as the next best thing.

Only person I know IRL that invested in bitcoins lost half of their money doing so, I can see why people would be scrambling to generate interest in them.

I think that investing in bitcoins would be risky. But just using bitcoins to transfer money would probably be a lot more viable. So a site that converts those bitcoins into dollars upon receiving them would be a lot less risky than a bitcoin only site where the bitcoins remain bitcoins in the players' accounts.

Nothing. Zip. Nada.

In about 3 months it will have been 4 years since Black Friday (April 15, 2011). To this day I still encounter, on a frequent basis, "poker players" in live casinos who don't understand how I can still play online. All they heard was that Pokerstars and FullTilt were shut down and that the government made it "illegal" to play online. I constantly mention Carbon, Bovada, and Black Chip, but very rarely do they even show an interest. I've yet to see someone write the names down or put them in their phone. It's pretty clear that after 4 years of this that there won't be a big influx of new online players from the U.S. until a few states pass a bill making it OK to operate in those states. Those states will also have to have a compact to share the player pool. The next big step would be heavy advertising. Right now I can't turn on the radio without hearing an ad for DraftKings or FanDuel. Once people see/hear the commercials assuring them that it's safe and legal, then they will return. When at least half the table at a casino is unaware of Carbon it's time to say the 'message' has and will continue to fail.

The second necessity to my above post is that depositing/withdrawing will not only have to be easy, it will have to be downright simple. I've noticed that the least amount of 'work' will turn off people from even trying to get money on the site. This can only come about by the states making it truly legal.
As a side note to using Western Union: if you want to save a trip to the local branch, just make a WU online account. From there you can deposit right onto Carbon using your credit card/debit card. Carbon will even reimburse your transaction fees, adding it to your deposit total immediately. So if you're having trouble depositing directly onto Carbon with your CC/debit, try the WU online route.

Well said. I don't think the sharing of the player pools is critical in getting players back, certainly not as important as the legislation and advertising would be, but of course it's important to having a strong site, and is crucial for the 30-40 smallest states. And yeah, easy depositing/withdrawing is critical (especially depositing), but I assume that would follow with legislation.

Adding bitcoins might be of some benefit, but it's not going to bring any significant number of players back that aren't playing now.

Anyone else down?

cash games freezing up for anyone else??

ya just a minute ago

down

come back online for anyone yet?