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10-15-2013 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by A_Schupick
I think people confuse profit maximization with money grab.
+1
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10-15-2013 , 07:49 PM
HEM is working on trying to fix the issue internally as well, but hopefully the situation is resolved without them needing to release an update.
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10-15-2013 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by A_Schupick
I think people confuse profit maximization with money grab.
Well they're screwinf over people who like to play rebuys and shorter mtts. Gjge.
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10-15-2013 , 08:14 PM
profit maximization that has no long term sustainability is generally a money grab.
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10-15-2013 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
10 table SNG/MTT limit now resolved


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DId they roll out an update? I restarted the software but got no update
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10-15-2013 , 08:19 PM
im still getting the 10 max BS - so i find out by being in 10 games obv, bust one and go to reenter and it gives me the 10 table message, so no go on the reentry LMAo.

big shout out to merge dev team, class act fo sho
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10-15-2013 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by A_Schupick
No, I am not going to copy and paste a paid article.

Also, what I was saying is they are making profit, so rumors that this is the "death rattle" are dangerous, because they simply aren't true, not even in the slightest. Hard to say a site si dying when profits went up 2%....
before it was shown to be a mistake, why would you link a paid article then?

altho i think rivermens approach to this is poor, fulltilt surely put up higher profits (i would safely assume way more than 2%) with met's, 2 quick ftops, and a doubles week.

re entries/looooong late reg are not good for the games. obviously its great for the site. while i'm not counting them out yet, the constant tweeking of gtds, cancelling things fairly often for fear of even small overlay, and encouraging ridiculous re entries can't look good to everyone...
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10-15-2013 , 08:32 PM
lolmerge, no reentries tonight if ur ten tabling
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10-15-2013 , 08:42 PM
You can still re-enter the tournaments folks. You just have to close the table, find the tournament in the lobby, and register again. If it still gives you an error, give it a few minutes and try again. Still doesn't work? Log out and back in again. I haven't been blocked from re-entering tournaments after doing all of these.

Unfortunately, the limit is still 10. :[
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10-15-2013 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by VISH MASTER
DId they roll out an update? I restarted the software but got no update
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Originally Posted by p2 dog, p2
im still getting the 10 max BS - so i find out by being in 10 games obv, bust one and go to reenter and it gives me the 10 table message, so no go on the reentry LMAo.

big shout out to merge dev team, class act fo sho

Try logging out and back in...

If you're already logged in, I suggest doing this on MTT break or following bs_jayhawk's instructions above on how to re-enter an MTT.



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10-15-2013 , 08:52 PM
ya, makes sense, I was going to restart client at next break and hoping it fixes
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10-15-2013 , 08:54 PM
Restarting the client allowed me to reg for 10+ sngs.
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10-15-2013 , 09:08 PM
word
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10-15-2013 , 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by gruevlock24
It makes sense to me. Everyone hates it because all the rebuys are gone. Well Merge never made much money off rebuys because we only pay the fees once. Now were all forced to pay more then once when we re-enter, personally i miss the rebuys throughout the day too, but i do love the nightly's alot more now. So the way it is now. Less customers but more profit it seems. Also all the coupons are going off now compared to before so their also making more money from that.
+1.

Although they left 2+2 management has obviously been listening to a lot of feedback regarding MTTs and have made some positive changes. Their nightly schedule is pretty great - the overlays here and there doesn't hurt obv.

I for one am glad their profits are on the up. Keep improving your schedule merge
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10-15-2013 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by A_Schupick
I think people confuse profit maximization with money grab.
Yeah, maybe, but I use the terms interchangeably in this case. From a business standpoint, I don't fault them for maximizing profit while they can. From a player standpoint, meh, I don't like what they have done lately so I moved on. To each his own.
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10-15-2013 , 10:52 PM
Considering that Merge has lost half of its player pool via its "profit maximizations", I feel pretty comfortable referring to their improvements as short sighted money grabs.
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10-15-2013 , 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by gruevlock24
...So the way it is now. Less customers but more profit it seems...
Less customers based on what? Their MTT traffic is actually up across regular M-F and Sat tournaments, and holding steady on Sunday's despite fewer $5k GTD or higher offerings through the first two weeks of October.
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10-16-2013 , 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by p2 dog, p2
im still getting the 10 max BS - so i find out by being in 10 games obv, bust one and go to reenter and it gives me the 10 table message, so no go on the reentry LMAo.

big shout out to merge dev team, class act fo sho
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
Try logging out and back in...

If you're already logged in, I suggest doing this on MTT break or following bs_jayhawk's instructions above on how to re-enter an MTT.



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The 10 table limit is still affecting me. I've done everything suggested here to no avail. Just downed an energy drink after midnight preparing to grind because I thought this was fixed :O I hope the hyper guys don't get too much of a lead on the leaderboard while this is being fixed!

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10-16-2013 , 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by benza13
profit maximization that has no long term sustainability is generally a money grab.
Basically half the Networks are doing this. I theorize that this is due to the looming threat of US regulated poker. Maybe there is no point in trying to use a model for long term success if the company will be done in less than a couple years.
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10-16-2013 , 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by clutch352
Basically half the Networks are doing this. I theorize that this is due to the looming threat of US regulated poker. Maybe there is no point in trying to use a model for long term success if the company will be done in less than a couple years.
I've wondered if maybe they just want to go into the software business. There's a huge demand right now for good poker software and leasing and updating it is very profitable with extremely low overhead. That could conceivably be their end game. Whether they could do that or not would depend a lot on bad actor clauses in various poker legislations.
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10-16-2013 , 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by A_Schupick
For those thinking that Merge is dying, you should probably take a look at this. Once again shows why assumptions in this thread are dangerous and incorrect:

http://pokerfuse.com/news/industry/m...arantee-15-10/

So the article states that Merge made a whopping $186 in increases profits for September by tweaking its tournament structures, while completely ignoring effects of their various tinkerings on other games.

And then they go on to say that Merge is down $4,765 so far for the month of October.

And then they state that September's numbers actually may have been skewed because of the Poker Maximus Tournament (duh).

I think you need to read the article rather than just the headline that really had very little to do with what was actually in the article.
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10-16-2013 , 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SantaCruz
So the article states that Merge made a whopping $186 in increases profits for September by tweaking its tournament structures, while completely ignoring effects of their various tinkerings on other games.

And then they go on to say that Merge is down $4,765 so far for the month of October.

And then they state that September's numbers actually may have been skewed because of the Poker Maximus Tournament (duh).

I think you need to read the article rather than just the headline that really had very little to do with what was actually in the article.
i figured that it had to be some kind of white lie lol.
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10-16-2013 , 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by SantaCruz
So the article states that Merge made a whopping $186 in increases profits for September by tweaking its tournament structures, while completely ignoring effects of their various tinkerings on other games.

And then they go on to say that Merge is down $4,765 so far for the month of October.

And then they state that September's numbers actually may have been skewed because of the Poker Maximus Tournament (duh).

I think you need to read the article rather than just the headline that really had very little to do with what was actually in the article.
I read that as ave loss for Saturdays only.

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10-16-2013 , 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by SantaCruz
So the article states that Merge made a whopping $186 in increases profits for September by tweaking its tournament structures, while completely ignoring effects of their various tinkerings on other games.

And then they go on to say that Merge is down $4,765 so far for the month of October.

And then they state that September's numbers actually may have been skewed because of the Poker Maximus Tournament (duh).

I think you need to read the article rather than just the headline that really had very little to do with what was actually in the article.
I think you missed a key portion of that article, sir.
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10-16-2013 , 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by IHasTehNutz
I think you missed a key portion of that article, sir.
You're right, my mistake, it wasn't September, it was October that the daily increase in profits were $186. Still that's just not a lot of money. It certainly doesn't change the fact that the author took back everything that she said in the article by stating that the September numbers were probably skewed; so essentially these comparisons are based on nothing.

Going from a $3,727 profit in September on Saturdays to a $4,765 loss in October doesn't sound very profitable to me. The article doesn't make clear if she is compensating for the $8,492 decrease in Saturday profits in her daily averages. It sounds to me like she might be just setting that number aside as a quirk.

What I was criticizing was Schupick's conclusion that this is proof of the overall health of the site which I think is absurd considering that Merge is now neck and neck with Chico in the Pokerscout ratings. There are just a fraction of the sitngos running this year as there were last and the cash games have been gutted.

I don't think that anyone is arguing that Merge isn't making money. The assertion that posters' concern about Merge is solely about financial solvency has been a straw man that has been repeatedly brought up by a couple of posters. In reality, most posters haven't been worried that Merge might be closing its poker operations because the site is going broke. They are concerned that it might be closing for some other undisclosed reasons.

The top guys at Pokerstars have emphasized that almost the entire value of their company is their player pool. A diminishing player pool and an increasing profit margin is unsustainable and somewhat unbelievable.
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