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10-01-2013 , 08:25 PM
one of my favorite tournaments sometimes started with about 7 people and everyday ended up with 50+ and a prize pool of $500+.

they changed the structure, lowered the buy-in $5, and slapped a $250 guarantee on it.

1st day-Canceled

my favorite tournament starts in 20 mins with the same changes detailed above, except this one usually has 60+ players. and by starts in 20 minutes i mean it will probably be canceled.
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10-01-2013 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by newluck2k
Does anyone know the answers to these questions?

1.) What reason did 2+2/Carbon give for taking down the subforum? Are the 2+2 Carbon reps no longer around?

2.) Has anyone got an answer from Carbon about the VIP level/point redemption issue? Top tier players will now have piles of points that they can't use if they can only change $250 into cash a month.
1. the stated reason was "to improve customer service." so the answer is they gave no reason. one of the reps no longer works for Carbon according to a poster who spoke with him.

2. i asked if they would let me convert the points i have at the rates from yesterday, the rates when i earned them. they said "no".
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10-01-2013 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DrawNone
2. i asked if they would let me convert the points i have at the rates from yesterday, the rates when i earned them. they said "**** you".
FYP
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10-01-2013 , 10:04 PM
This tournament was supposed to be $750 guaranteed. After registration closed, the overlay was taken away and it adjusted to the actual prizepool ($520). What a sham.
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10-01-2013 , 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkCommitedNow
This tournament was supposed to be $750 guaranteed. After registration closed, the overlay was taken away and it adjusted to the actual prizepool ($520). What a sham.
Seen this happen before. Expect the usuals in here to tell you you're seeing things.
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10-01-2013 , 10:09 PM
unless I'm missing something theres no more badugi or 2-7 tourneys, I know they didn't get a ton of people, but they got as many as the non guarantee nl tourneys at the same times and were really fun, it'd be great if they could at least put a few of them back in
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10-01-2013 , 10:11 PM
Has anyone heard anything about "Last Man Standing"? It never updated after the end of September. I assume it's still on.
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10-01-2013 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkCommitedNow
This tournament was supposed to be $750 guaranteed. After registration closed, the overlay was taken away and it adjusted to the actual prizepool ($520). What a sham.
Actually the Guarantee was always $500 listed in the tournament lobby, as I saw the thing myself and was curious. I saw it before it hit the $500 that it was overlayed to the $500 number, so I know nothing was changed in the middle of the tournament, they simply typo'd the name of the tournament. Still compensation should be given in some form, but just know that it definitely was not changed mid tournament.
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10-01-2013 , 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MacauBound
1) None. Correct.
2) There is no issue as far as Merge is concerned. They just made more money.

I sure hope the huge fish are invited to top tier and the games become as soft as Bovada used to be, but I just don't think fish think like that. If they really considered value and such before they deposited then they would be less likely to play bad.

Merge has made their intentions clear regarding the grinder vs. rec model and I can't say I blame them. It's good business for them but unfortunate for some of us. Hopefully, some interstate compacts will soon (1-2 years??) render these issues moot.
I've mentioned this before in other threads, but the whole idea of the Recreational Player Model being the cause of Bovada/Bodog having a lot of fish, I feel, is a scam that Bovada/Bodog has been perpetuating on both players and other sites. The real purpose of the RPM is to turn the game of poker into more of a casino game.

After Blackfriday many posters in the Carbon Support thread expressed their dismay that Carbon wasn't trying to get more ROW players on their site. After all, with more ROW players the player pool would be both larger and fishier and it would provide something for them to fall back on if the DOJ were to step in. But the player pool stubbornly remained concentrated with US players. Considering that 80% of players never cash out, I've never felt this was simply ROW players choosing sites with faster cashouts. My belief has always been that Merge has wanted players who would not only play poker but who could also be potentially enticed into the US centric sports gambling part of their business.

Bovada is very different than Carbon in the sense that Bovada is a part of Bodog which has had a large ROW presence particularly in the Asian market for both its poker and sports betting business. Bodog has recruited heavily from that market and they've been lucky enough that the Philippines has recently had a very strong economy which has helped them somewhat. Having a large and fishy player pool has attracted even more players because in the poker world success breeds success. The Bodog PR people have very heavily pushed the idea that their success has been a validation of the Recreational Player Model; but that simply isn't true. Their success has actually been the result of marketing.

Recently some other sites have grabbed onto the concept of the Recreational Player Model because those sites are run by greedy and gullible fools. A few months ago the CEO of Bodog resigned, stating that his next project is to introduce his Recreational Player Model to the potential California market; lucky us.
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10-01-2013 , 10:16 PM
sweet almost no mtts to play anymore on sportsbook/players only nor will they give me a reason why or if things will change
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10-01-2013 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkCommitedNow
This tournament was supposed to be $750 guaranteed. After registration closed, the overlay was taken away and it adjusted to the actual prizepool ($520). What a sham.
There's a tourney running right now that says $750 in the title, but only had $500 in the prizepool. I emailed support about it earlier.
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10-01-2013 , 10:35 PM
Hopefully their not super tight with their RB invites.
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10-01-2013 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkCommitedNow
This tournament was supposed to be $750 guaranteed. After registration closed, the overlay was taken away and it adjusted to the actual prizepool ($520). What a sham.
wtf? thats a new low...that's fine though, heres how my day went.
1-withdrew 90% of my roll on sportsbook.
2-opened bovada
3-played a $10 tourney took 2nd for $420
4- picked up two singles from down the street bc i cant fully quit smoking, lit one up and bitched about merge on a poker forum gg sportsbook
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10-01-2013 , 10:45 PM
won $420 and didnt pick up a bag of goods, shame on you
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10-01-2013 , 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by p2 dog, p2
won $420 and didnt pick up a bag of goods, shame on you
actually first thing i did was text my neighbor who has a mmj card "weeds on me tonight", hes picking up some nice hollywood dank thatll be here in a couple hours
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10-01-2013 , 10:52 PM
It would have been nice if they told us about the change to the VIP program before doing it. I could have grinded a few more points to get my 19%. I guess it is 10% for me here on out. Black Chip has 27% rakeback but not a lot of Sit and Go action. Unfortunately Merge is the only game in town for sit and goes, but with this change I think the action is going to die.

Seems odd that they would go through the whole change to get rid of Rakeback at the beginning of the year only to make it worse now. I withdrew half of my bankroll when they killed forum, I suspect the other half may be coming out soon.
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10-01-2013 , 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ih8ustfu
actually first thing i did was text my neighbor who has a mmj card "weeds on me tonight", hes picking up some nice hollywood dank thatll be here in a couple hours
ahhhh and now u rub it in. im pissed. bovada is okay, grinding there now for 1st time ever but im running horrid and notes dont transfer if there is table change LMAO
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10-01-2013 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mjcace
The main daily/nightly tourneys added or improved are definitely better then before. I think merge still (especially now) has way too many small GTD tourneys on the schedule. I'm not recommending raising gtds but rather remove a bunch of them and timely place sattys/feeders to a few more of the daily/nightlys. Just seems to be a huge overkill of tourneys for the merge player base.

for example this is one hour of tourneys, i only see 2 sattys.



basically just giving feedback in this thread hoping someone from merge is reading. gla
This. Too many tourneys, spreading limited poker base too thin.

Wouldn't you rather have two big 5K gtds than ten 1K gtd?
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10-01-2013 , 11:17 PM
What is a ROW player?
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10-01-2013 , 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by p2 dog, p2
ahhhh and now u rub it in. im pissed. bovada is okay, grinding there now for 1st time ever but im running horrid and notes dont transfer if there is table change LMAO
i thought the site was rigged bc i ran so unbelievably well the first couple days i played there. even posted a lil rigtard stuff.
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10-01-2013 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Combo-Prof
What is a ROW player?
Non-US
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10-01-2013 , 11:37 PM
Yeah, Rest Of World.
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10-01-2013 , 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by anteatereater
Has anyone heard anything about "Last Man Standing"? It never updated after the end of September. I assume it's still on.
Looks like it's updated now. 33 left.
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10-01-2013 , 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by anteatereater
Has anyone heard anything about "Last Man Standing"? It never updated after the end of September. I assume it's still on.
Nothing has changed. It's a 2 month long promotion and still ongoing.

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Originally Posted by quit stallin
sweet almost no mtts to play anymore on sportsbook/players only nor will they give me a reason why or if things will change
Nor will there be.


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10-02-2013 , 12:23 AM
Why did Sportsbook drop the MTTs? Now everything that's not a huge guarantee will overlay. Gjge Merge.
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