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09-27-2013 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Nitross
CA, Carbon withdraw
Request: 9/22/13
Processed: 9/25/13
Received: ?? (tomorrow i assume)
There's a separate withdrawal thread SJ.
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09-27-2013 , 04:15 PM
I lost my HEM database and asked Carbon for my hand histories. They told me they DO NOT keep ANY hand histories? I asked them how they intended to stop collusion and cheating. They didn't even reply.

Such a shady site.
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09-27-2013 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by InFlnlte
I get making it faster but all the representatives agreed on this? Even if its deep with like 5k stacks or 7.5k stacks, its still a little screwed up at the beginning.

I don't have carbon on this computer but from what I remember the structure is like this in the beginning, 10/20, 15/30, 25/50, 50/100, 60/120 (and antes kick in). A better structure wouldve been 10/20 or 15/30, 20/40, 30/60, 40/80, 50/100, 60/120. All this does is add one more level but it makes it a lot better. And it works for all tournaments whether they are with a 3k stack or deeper stack.

I can't believe only a few people got to decide this and they couldn't just do a poll to what the majority here agree on. The "new" structure isn't horrible and after the first part, there's a lot of play but now we're stuck with it (since every tourny has this blind structure) and I don't see a change coming anytime soon.
Want to bet?

The structures I suggested to them had earlier antes, added late levels, and an early structure identical to the "better early structure" in your post. They took our suggestions and created what we currently see in the client with a not so great awkward early game, earlier antes, and added later levels.

I have it on good authority the early game structure will be changed very soon after a talk today, due to the negative feedback from this thread. I also suggested they change the new Sat/Sun Hyper-Turbo rake from the absurd 10% to whatever hyper mtts should be and they'll fix that as it was simply overlooked. DiamondDixie's nice catch on the Deep tournaments having 3k starting stacks is not being overlooked and should be fixed soon.

The important thing to note is that they are watching this thread and processing your feedback. Although they might not officially respond in this thread, your feedback is taken into consideration. If it's heavily supported and the suggested changes make a ton of sense, it will be discussed. If you guys continue to see any other small errors with the new schedule such as starting stacks or rake, continue posting them here and or emailing them.

Oh and a Nightly $33 5K GTD was added to the new schedule this morning so that's more good news. I believe it was a $33 2.5K GTD yesterday and not branded as a Nightly yet.
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09-27-2013 , 05:05 PM
Thanks Nick. Hopefully they make it a 33 10k. Also the guarantee on the Sautrday $60 fo is weak at only 10k. It's not even larger than the nightly 60 12.5k.
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09-27-2013 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by NickHalden
Want to bet?

The structures I suggested to them had earlier antes, added late levels, and an early structure identical to the "better early structure" in your post. They took our suggestions and created what we currently see in the client with a not so great awkward early game, earlier antes, and added later levels.

I have it on good authority the early game structure will be changed very soon after a talk today, due to the negative feedback from this thread. I also suggested they change the new Sat/Sun Hyper-Turbo rake from the absurd 10% to whatever hyper mtts should be and they'll fix that as it was simply overlooked. DiamondDixie's nice catch on the Deep tournaments having 3k starting stacks is not being overlooked and should be fixed soon.

The important thing to note is that they are watching this thread and processing your feedback. Although they might not officially respond in this thread, your feedback is taken into consideration. If it's heavily supported and the suggested changes make a ton of sense, it will be discussed. If you guys continue to see any other small errors with the new schedule such as starting stacks or rake, continue posting them here and or emailing them.

Oh and a Nightly $33 5K GTD was added to the new schedule this morning so that's more good news. I believe it was a $33 2.5K GTD yesterday and not branded as a Nightly yet.
Thanks
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09-27-2013 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Czar Chasm
I lost my HEM database and asked Carbon for my hand histories. They told me they DO NOT keep ANY hand histories? I asked them how they intended to stop collusion and cheating. They didn't even reply.

Such a shady site.
This is the problem with not having a support rep on 2+2. Some ******ed support guy says something wrong and no-one can correct it. Ask them again and you'll probably get a different answer.

It's been brought up several times on here before. They have the hands, but they can't export them and send them to you. Something to do with the way they are formatted, probably show all hole cards or something.
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09-27-2013 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Czar Chasm
I lost my HEM database and asked Carbon for my hand histories. They told me they DO NOT keep ANY hand histories? I asked them how they intended to stop collusion and cheating. They didn't even reply.

Such a shady site.
HM exports a copy of your handhistories to your C drive. You can rebuild your database from that. But if you lost you database because you lost your C drive that's not going to help.
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09-27-2013 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Czar Chasm
I lost my HEM database and asked Carbon for my hand histories. They told me they DO NOT keep ANY hand histories? I asked them how they intended to stop collusion and cheating. They didn't even reply.

Such a shady site.
I also requested hand histories from carbon and pokerhost and neither will oblige me. But our demands are not high priority for them and nobody from their management team seems to have graduated with a business degree either.
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09-27-2013 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by InFlnlte
I get making it faster but all the representatives agreed on this? Even if its deep with like 5k stacks or 7.5k stacks, its still a little screwed up at the beginning.

I don't have carbon on this computer but from what I remember the structure is like this in the beginning, 10/20, 15/30, 25/50, 50/100, 60/120 (and antes kick in). A better structure wouldve been 10/20 or 15/30, 20/40, 30/60, 40/80, 50/100, 60/120. All this does is add one more level but it makes it a lot better. And it works for all tournaments whether they are with a 3k stack or deeper stack.

I can't believe only a few people got to decide this and they couldn't just do a poll to what the majority here agree on. The "new" structure isn't horrible and after the first part, there's a lot of play but now we're stuck with it (since every tourny has this blind structure) and I don't see a change coming anytime soon.
I asked them to emulate the PokerStars "big" MTT structure and I think the other guys did too. While they did add better late levels they failed to make any changes to the early level structure they originally suggested.

I also not only went by what the majority of 2p2 posters were asking for but I spoke with several MTT players about the schedule and the especially the structure. I'm pretty sure we all asked for the things the majority of the serious MTT players wanted. Merge just didn't listen on a few of these things, which may have been an oversight on their part and hopefully they'll fix it soon.

Good catch on the hyper rake Nick!

EDIT: I just checked and they've already corrected the errors I pointed out and changed the nightly $109 and $11 to deep structures. I also see where it looks like they've changed some of the structures. Some are still the same and I saw one with that old structure that started at 20/40. I really hope they don't go back to different structures for different games. The standardized structure is one thing I liked best. Hopefully they're different because they're currently trying to get them all fixed.

Last edited by DiamondDixie; 09-27-2013 at 10:06 PM.
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09-27-2013 , 10:49 PM
Yea now the $11 6k updated structure looks pretty good, I like it.

There are definitely some things to like about this schedule, so hopefully some of the things I mentioned before hand such as removing some of the big micro tournies and not having an adequate replacement for them get addressed at some point.
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09-28-2013 , 11:47 AM
Glad to see some improvements/corrections being made.

Don't like the 3hour45min late reg/re entry as I think it needlessly extends the running times but it appears there isn't anything we can do about this. My only problem is that the re entry periods are much shorter now and yet the new guars (wiht the uber extended re entry period) have been kept the same or reduced in some instances. This seems illogical.

Also the $1r turbo and the $11 deep stack 6max need to be fixed. Took away the 30k addon in the 1r, which sux. That was the only reason I bothered playing a 1r cause those stacks were so fun. And despite this we ended up getting really short with around 3 tables left, can't imagine what will happen now. And the 6max deep stack was unique cause you got a nice 10k stack to start. That was super fun and worth playing just for the stacks. Hopefully these get corrected too.

Also whats with the crappy value guars ie: 109$ 2.5k? C'mon really bro? 22$ 1.5k? $5r 1k? $33 2k? Increase the guars or take them off the sched imo. Yeah I'm really excited to play a 109 against all regs for the priviledge of shipping 500 bux when I'm lucky enough to bink it.

Don't mean to be overly critical but these are the things that still bother me about the new and improved schedule.
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09-28-2013 , 12:05 PM
One minor thing... I bet if they made the nightly $11 6k ticket eligible they wouldn't need that tourney to have such an absurd late reg period. Not that I don't like that long of late reg because I actually do, I just noticed many others don't. It would certainly beef up the prizepool tho.
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09-28-2013 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by checkraisebluff
I also requested hand histories from carbon and pokerhost and neither will oblige me. But our demands are not high priority for them and nobody from their management team seems to have graduated with a business degree either.

Without getting into too much detail, I've talked to them about it, it's not possible technically speaking at this time.

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Originally Posted by rmthawk64
One minor thing... I bet if they made the nightly $11 6k ticket eligible ...

As of October 1st all SnGs and MTTs will allow VIP points entry, along with a 50/50 cash/vip points entry


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Kahn
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09-28-2013 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DiamondDixie
EDIT: I just checked and they've already corrected the errors I pointed out and changed the nightly $109 and $11 to deep structures. I also see where it looks like they've changed some of the structures. Some are still the same and I saw one with that old structure that started at 20/40. I really hope they don't go back to different structures for different games. The standardized structure is one thing I liked best. Hopefully they're different because they're currently trying to get them all fixed.

Everything is staying standardized. New blind levels going into effect today :

15/30, 20/40, 30/60, 40/80, 50/100, 60/120





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09-28-2013 , 02:06 PM
can we get some plo8 sngs at reg speed? they also only go up to $10. how about a 20,50,and 100? bovada has merge beat here.
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09-28-2013 , 02:08 PM
Besides the absurdly long late-reg periods (nightly deeps) and 10 min levels of non-deep mtts, the new schedule looks great.

Added levels late are so awesome, will have to see how it plays out with the 4 hrs late reg, but hopefully playability (as compared to PM events) increases markedly.

One suggestion which may have been brought up (?) is to increase starting stack sizes of these events to 7500, whereby making it a bit more valuable to re-enter late.

Just nice to have a full schedule, with actual possibilities to reg throughout the evening instead of the current 8-10 mtts from 3pm to 6pm pst worth playing (if you don't fancy $5 turbo re-buys).

Cheers to the player reps and everybody that contributed feedback on the need for an mtt overhaul.
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09-28-2013 , 02:51 PM
Merge has finally overtaken Revolution in Pokerscout's traffic ranking.

http://www.pokerscout.com/

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09-28-2013 , 04:17 PM
I think that one of the main things that's been propping up Revolution's player numbers is the fact that it is so difficult for players to get their money off the site.
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09-28-2013 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SantaCruz
I think that one of the main things that's been propping up Revolution's player numbers is the fact that it is so difficult for players to get their money off some of the sites.
FYP.

Sorry to nitpick, but I hate to see sites like Intertops get lumped in with all the rest.
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09-28-2013 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rmthawk64
One minor thing... I bet if they made the nightly $11 6k ticket eligible they wouldn't need that tourney to have such an absurd late reg period. Not that I don't like that long of late reg because I actually do, I just noticed many others don't. It would certainly beef up the prizepool tho.
Kahn pointed out that all MTTs would be points and cash/point eligible - they will also be entry ticket eligiable. If you check the lobbies on games after 10/1 you'll see they all have the ticket option.

@TVG I asked/strongly suggested the $11 6 max super stack stay that way and the dollar frenzy keep the big
addon and I was told it wasn't gonna happen.
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09-28-2013 , 05:19 PM
I dunno I mean I can kind of see the logic in that by getting rid of the super addon they'll encourage more people to enter in the rebuy period and thus spend more money rebuying and increase the prizepool and entries, but if this was the actual case then why reduce the guarantee? It doesn't really make that much sense to me.

I feel like the reverse is going to happen and people like myself who would normally late register are just going to pass on the tourney.
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09-29-2013 , 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by goodsaint
Legit. In order to withdraw funds your account must be verified. Can't recall anyone having an issue with their bank account after verification by Carbon Poker. Just sayin...
It is worth asking though. I mean they are site operating outside of US law (no matter how dumb the laws may be) that will take your money with no verification or questions asked what so ever BUT then when you want to withdraw they claim they must act with all and utmost integrity and collect very personal information that is used for identity theft every day.

I mean call a double standard a double standard
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09-29-2013 , 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by JimAfternoon
Merge has finally overtaken Revolution in Pokerscout's traffic ranking.

http://www.pokerscout.com/

I guess REV took back over.
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09-29-2013 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by thadarkman78
I dunno I mean I can kind of see the logic in that by getting rid of the super addon they'll encourage more people to enter in the rebuy period and thus spend more money rebuying and increase the prizepool and entries, but if this was the actual case then why reduce the guarantee? It doesn't really make that much sense to me.

I feel like the reverse is going to happen and people like myself who would normally late register are just going to pass on the tourney.
Yeah obv this is why they are doing it. With the 30k addon you weren't really forced to gamble and still could have a very playable stack of 36k at 300/600 when the freezeout portion started. Now you have a min stack of 9k at the same level.

I liked this cause I really hate trying to pay attention during a rebuy period, esp at that time of night when you are grinding the heart of your sched. But whatever.
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09-29-2013 , 01:07 PM
What promos do we have for October? Is it the same as September?
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