I dunno, but remember that our peers helped shape it.....

A. I don't agree with removing the sub-forum. That being said, I am not thick enough to see some plausible reason on why they would not want to have it anymore.

B. They did listen to people who wanted a more standardized structures. They are not on Stars level, but they are better than WPN and Bovada. (In terms of listening to player feedback, at any rate.)

C. I need to get paid more for shilling for all these sites. I have been accused of shilling for both Bovada and Merge...

D. How much do you get paid by WPN/Bovada/etc. for trashing things for no reason and not listening to anyone? If it's better than my pay rate, i might consider doing what you do....

no i won (2) $215 main event seats that were for poker maximus main events. i was told AFTER i won the nd one that the coupon was only valid for that one tourny. Why would they let me reg a nd time after winning the first seat. And why instead of stealing $215 they wouldnt give me a coupon for any 215 seat of my choosing since maximus was done and i didnt need a rebuy .

A. Your a complete moron and all of the comments you have ever made about Carbon are that of either a delusional human being and/or someone who is working for the site.

B. Why are you now saying that Carbon's feedback is better than WPN and Bovada? Where did that come from.

C. I don't get paid by bovada to write in Two plus Two, they only pay me when I withdrawal(which is frequent and in 3-7 days...suck it carbon)...probably evident by my maybe 20 lifetime posts and the fact my location in my profile dosnt say anything and your's says "TWEETING AND BLOGGING".

So there you go Perez Hilton just stop posting in Carbon discussion threads and defending Carbon every second when people are very clearly venting out of frustration because Carbon is making playing on their site increasingly harder.

No, it seems you're the moron.

Who are you and why are you defending this guy? Also why do you defend Carbon?

Please tell me

Who are you and why are you attacking this guy?

I'm not defending Carbon. I'm simply pointing out the ignorance with which you and your fellow naysayers have flooded this thread. I agree with some of the criticisms I've seen regarding the new tournament structure, and I think some of what you've posted recently also has merit (your problems with a later check coming before an earlier, etc.), but attacks against other posters because they don't agree with you and the loud minority don't belong here.

CarbonRyan very recently addressed the issue of having multiple main event coupons in the Carbon subforum. All you needed to do was jump in your time machine and read his posts.

See that is where you are wrong because this guy is the one who has been attacking posters regularly. Did you see his bro post?

and yes I am the one who has been posting frequently about Carbon and how they have not been paying me but A_Scrubstick(w/e it is) has been regularly talking down to others and defending carbon. I have been talking poorly about Carbon b/c they pretty much told me they refuse to pay me for at least 6-8 weeks, b/c I actually make money in online poker.

A_w/e his name is is the problem taking away from people who are having real issues with the site and looking for guidance. He is the one consistently coming up false reasons as to why things happen. Like removing 2p2 support to improve ROI? Or that "peers" are the ones that choose their new tourney schedule or that they go by a queue for checks...when they are in fact picking and choosing who to pay.

We are the ones that are actually trying to improve the site he is the one trying to take away from that(which goes against what 2p2 is for).

Here you go blatantly, this is in response to why carbon hasn't been listening.

do you see now where this guy is taking away from what 2p2 stands for? Player safety and strategy

lol

way to not show the post he was responding too

don't know how to put in multiple quotes

A. 3 players were chosen by the community to help with the new MTT schedule. I know Diamond Dixie was one, i don't remember the other two. They all said they liked the look at it with a few tweaks.

B. They don't own the Cashier, that has been said numerous times. They queue people. It has been said numerous times, once again.

C. I have spoken out against things they have done, just not everything. I look at things from different angles than most.

D. They may not get much from the 2p2 forum, thus yea, it could improve ROI, simple business.

I know that everything on the internet is there forever, so is there a way to get a lot of the stuff back? I'm not familiar enough with that stuff to do it.

I'm not sure either. I know that you can retrieve google cache pages but you can only do that one page at a time. And as far as I can see google didn't back up the last few days of the posts (or at least they weren't available at the time I looked).

To look up the cache pages, I've been using this webpage:

http://www.thepcmanwebsite.com/googl..._checker.shtml

Thanks, Maybe someone can think of, or knows a better way, of doing things. Would be cool to piece together a lot and maybe make a Google doc, or something with answers.

I totally agree that it sucks that you can't use your coupon for another $215. However, I don't necessarily think that it isn't fair, or that it is stealing your money. The standard on Stars and FTP was always that those coupons and satellites were interchangeable, so if you were used to that system it is easy to assume that any other site you play on is the same way. But if you win an entry to say a WSOPC circuit event, it is only good for that event and that is fine and no different than this. The rules were always clear and available to anyone who wanted to read them. I personally obsessively check my coupon balance to make sure they show up when I win one, what they are good for, when they expire, etc. I suggest everyone do the same.

Not talking about you on this, but in related circumstances it is kind of hard to feel bad for people who complain after their coupon expires that they didn't know there was an expiration date since it is clearly written right next to the value of the coupon when you check to see what coupons you have.

I've talked to Ryan and he is no longer with Carbon, basically irreconcilable differences (no he wasn't fired but there has been some restructuring obviously).

Also to clear something up: Jazette Enterprises owns Merge, Carbon, Aced, Players Only, Sportsbook and lesser sports betting/casino skins. I wasn't 100% sure they actually own Carbon but they do. That said Carbon obviously isn't moving.

The following is strictly my opinion and did not come from my conversation with Ryan.

Jazzette has shown over the last year that poker is definitely one of their lesser interest and the deletion of the sub-forum on here is more proof that. Their primary interest is casino and sports bettors. Poker is there to give them another way to lose any money they make betting in the casino or sports betting. These type sites make their money off net-depositors who rarely if ever withdraw. They don't make money off regs and especially not off stables of winning regs who are constantly withdrawing and moving money around. Good regs also cause fish to go broke faster and this is bad for the site.

The above is exactly why Bovada went to anonymous tables and why Winning doesn't show mucked hands. It's all an attempt to level the playing field between the good regs and fish. It's just good business sense whether we like it or not.

Stars and Full-Tilt are strictly poker sites, they make all their money off poker players so their business model is completely different. I honestly doubt any US facing poker only site could survive in the current US environment.

I don't have any fear that Merge is having financial problems, these changes all help not hurt their bottom-line. I have to say from a business model standpoint I believe everything they've done makes really good business sense.

Now does that mean I agree with it or like it, hell no but it is what it is and for now we either deal with it or play on another site or don't play online at all.

As for the new schedule that is not it in the above link. They may have made some changes but the new schedule is actually a big improvement but it probably won't be out until sometime in October. That was the last I heard anyway.

IMO every silly rumor in here is just that a silly rumor. The DOJ isn't sweeping in, Merge isn't going broke, after all it isn't run by Jenn Larsen - now there is an example of a terrible business model and an idiot CEO, nothing has changed just because they've closed and deleted the sub-forum (which cost me a bunch of posts dammit) and have consolidated customer service. Merge has gotten much worse since the Jazzette take over in relation to poker players but overall it's still the best we have.

And just for the record they don't pay me a dime and I'm not an affiliate. I'm also so unhappy with all the changes over the last year I'm not even playing there right now. I did during Maximus but I'm done with Merge for awhile now.

Thank you DiamondDixie, everything you said was very articulate and exactly how i see it as well. Great business decisions, even if they really suck for us.

New Schedule looks like more tourneys all with LOW gtds. So unless they are going to montior and adjust gtds doesn't look better. Their schedule is so messed up at the moment with a 5r turbo that has 3 different gtds which it beats everyday.
They make it a 3k on Saturday it gets 3.5k
They make it a 1k on Friday it gets 1.7k-2k
during week it is a 2k 2.5k including sunday and it get 3-3.5k
the 11 nightly has quite a few diferent gtds and shud just have a solid 8 or 10k stuck on it and it will get met. Well now they are putting it at 6k and they just made it a highlighted tournament.

So in the schedule I see a lot more low stakes with small gtds 1.10 and such which will filter money up which is good BUT $33 1k gtds are unsightly. 5r 750 gtds are sad.
MY HOPE is the regular tournaments stay. and the ones with out gtds go because they never go off anyway and aren't worth running per say. ALL the gtds are cut at 2nd glance. if they were all doubled at least the higher BI ones they would still meet gtds oh well 6 more days to get in volume

DiamondDixie, NewberryKA, and myself were chosen if I remember correctly.

I wouldn't bash the schedule just yet. At first look it seems like there are a ton of tournaments. That's because there is! You're in charge of your table count and what tournaments you play. I might personally have to start using the lobby filter so it doesn't look as jam packed. The new schedule brings more variety in tournament offerings(6-max) and starting stack/blind structure standardization. Play your old favorite tournaments and add in some new ones that you want to try out. It also looks like some new interesting satellites were added into the client for October as well so this should be fun.

I know the guarantees were slightly lowered on some tournaments that used to be bigger on some weekdays. They are admittedly being a little cautious at first but who can blame them. It's their money they are putting on the line and I don't expect them to give out free money in overlays for the first month after putting in hours of work and processing feedback to create this schedule. I'm under the impression that after this schedule launches, the guarantees will continually be looked at each week. They will process the data and guarantees will be increased for certain tournaments that do well like they were a few months back(before June I believe?).

Let's wait until we all play it a little bit and then give more criticism and try to improve it with feedback. You might be saying "NICK REALLY? If they wanted feedback they would of kept the subforum open!!!". Well you have a point but from what I've read, it's quite costly to have a subforum on 2+2. I wouldn't be surprised if they still keep tabs on what's being said in here even if for some reason they're not allowed to post in here. Plus, certain people might be able to forward suggestions to people in charge of the MTT schedule.

I'd like to encourage people to be open minded about the new schedule and support their favorite tournaments in October by playing them. If you want bigger prize pools, it doesn't seem like it's magically going to happen overnight from the start. You're going to have to show your support for your favorite tournaments.

(No, I'm not a Carbon affiliate of any sort and am not paid to speak highly of them. I'm just a MTT grinder currently living in the US and personally know Merge is the best network for MTT's right now in the US if you only had to choose from one.)

DiamondDixie:

Your appraisal of what is going on and the relationship between Merge, its players and the sports betting industry is very much in keeping with what I also believe.

Unfortunately for us, Ryan is the person who pushed through most of the positive changes for the players on Carbon. With Ryan gone, I just don't see a bright future.

The real problem with the Merge Network isn't about financial solvency; it's that every decision that they've made has had a negative effect on the player pool. Just looking at the pokerscout graphs, it's easy to see the correlation between various decisions and the sharp decline in players.

Merge's decisions have cut the player pool in half; I can only believe that the decline is by design. I suspect that this decline will continue.

It's got nothing to do with your inability to multi-quote; you made it sound like he started the issue when he was replying to a post that told him to "Get off their sack bro".

I get that you're aggravated about the site, but jumping in and calling anyone with the temerity to not criticize a site as loudly as you a shill isn't helping anyone. Not everyone feels the same way you do about the site - does that really necessitate a 20+ post derail over every poster's motivation? When you start accusing someone who pokes a little fun at "your a moron" (which I also got a chuckle out of) of defending other posters and Merge, it's probably time to back away from the keyboard and get a little perspective.

I think there going to a rec model like bovada and I see less promos and with no reps on here to tell about promos I see it going downhill from a players pov. we will see what oct brings