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12-28-2011 , 03:03 PM

#76

Radish

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 513

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12-28-2011 , 03:04 PM

#77

8Nilor

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,543

errrrrrrbody should get themselves some anti-rake avatars

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12-28-2011 , 03:04 PM

#78

krmont22

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 8,078

jan 1 is obviously the best choice, as we don't want to hurt other players who would happily join in once they get their target for the year... you don't want to cause any arguments or fights amongst the players. It's us vs pokerstars. Not nits vs lags or anything in between.

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12-28-2011 , 03:05 PM

#79

NLfund

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 205

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Originally Posted by starvingwriter82

I will participate in such an event.

My suggestion: Start it Dec. 30. (48 hours from now). 1 p.m. EST Dec. 30.

If people complain at the tables, POLITELY explain to them what is happening, and why you are doing what you are doing.

Do not engage in arguments at the table.

Keep 24 tables open, and spam waitlists as well.

Keep going for as long as you can, and if you need to stop, start again immediately when you get the chance.

This is a serious issue for six max players, and to FR players and SNG players, it could easily be you next. All poker players, regardless of stakes or game preference, need to work together on this.

So, who's up for December 28, 2011 at 1 p.m. EST?

If there's a better time, please don't hesitate to say so. I'm in for whatever we can do to let stars know that 50% rake increases are not okay.

As someone else mentioned, I think it's important to wait until Jan 1st to do this because it'd be disgustingly unfair to those who are pursuing SNE 2011 and grinding last minute VPP's.

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12-28-2011 , 03:05 PM

#80

starvingwriter82

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 7,793

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Originally Posted by ROM Amnesty

You'll be hurting many grinders still going for SNE/milestones, such as myself- and so it will be counter-productive. Wait til January. Thx.

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In, for Jan sit-out

Good point. Jan 1 is the best time imo.

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12-28-2011 , 03:06 PM

#81

8Nilor

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,543

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...usness-941095/

imo

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12-28-2011 , 03:07 PM

#82

ferdinand bardamu

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 669

in
for whatever date and for unlimited duration.

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12-28-2011 , 03:07 PM

#83

Shobun

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 399

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Originally Posted by MSauce

I can ask a mod to edit OP but it seems like everyone will have read the changes before arriving here. And the Stars thread with a list of everything and peoples reflection of them is listed in this same forum.

Yeah but I'm suggesting having it canned in a really simplistic way without all the noise and "fuuu stars". Just so we have a nice short and simple explanaion on why/what we are doing.

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12-28-2011 , 03:08 PM

#84

x_ROSH125_x

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 6,071

In for Jan sit out

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12-28-2011 , 03:08 PM

#85

the village idiot1

adept

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 732

I am in! even tho i don't have a choice !
WORD

i think we should do it as of Jan 1st. but i am pretty angry right now so i will sit out the rest of the year.

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12-28-2011 , 03:09 PM

#86

FlushYouAcehole

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 159

let's make a record out of this one!!! (esp how stars likes to brag with their participation records and all that crapppp.)

let`s make stars brag with a couple of k players boycottin their greed!!!

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12-28-2011 , 03:09 PM

#87

BennyQuack

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,280

For this to have an impact we would need to agree on a stake level etc. Micro stakes has the most tables running but maybe it would have more impact at small/mid stakes?

#***********stars imo

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12-28-2011 , 03:10 PM

#88

luckproof

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,935

I'm all for a sit out

Spoiler:

edit: I wont be available until mid Jan

double edit: ***********stars avartars are a must imo

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12-28-2011 , 03:11 PM

#89

8Nilor

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,543

50 or 100nl imo

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12-28-2011 , 03:13 PM

#90

dickkemp

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 3,626

To make this more effective since you can buy into infinite would be to buy into SNGs and tournaments and sit out.

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12-28-2011 , 03:13 PM

#91

stratomx

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 22

I'm in. PS id: o_omx

I reached SNE 2days ago and I feel pretty ****ty about it because of all the hours I put in to reach the status in order to get the expected value I wanted and now I feel super deceived and dissapointed with Stars for making my efforts drop a lot in $ value. I can do any day any time BUT i definitely think it should be Jan1+ since I would feel pretty angry with you if you started to block my games and I were still some VPPs away from the goal.

Btw, we must wear a special avatar for this imo as some already have mentioned it.

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12-28-2011 , 03:14 PM

#92

DiCanio

newbie

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 47

After reading it again, IM IN!!!!!!

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12-28-2011 , 03:15 PM

#93

dybboss

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,513

cant they just ban everyone blocking tables for 24hours (forcing self exclusion), just saying, if they gonna wish to keep games going they have super easy solution...

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12-28-2011 , 03:15 PM

#94

ThePrunus

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 514

What's the problem? Rake got lowered from 5% to 4.5% it's perfect!

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12-28-2011 , 03:17 PM

#95

stratomx

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 22

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Originally Posted by BennyQuack

For this to have an impact we would need to agree on a stake level etc. Micro stakes has the most tables running but maybe it would have more impact at small/mid stakes?

#***********stars imo

In my opinion we should do it from 100 to 600nl and let the other regulars who don't read 2+2 or other forums know about the changes because Stars won't make significant money from NL25 or less so it has to be nl100+ IMHO.

Also, it should be like 4-5 (prob 5 is best) players sitting out per table and leave 1 seat open, 6 players sitting out at the same table will waste 1 slot that could help block another table.

Im in to block 6max games.

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12-28-2011 , 03:18 PM

#96

holdtard

newbie

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 22

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Originally Posted by stratomx

Btw, we must wear a special avatar for this imo as some already have mentioned it.

not everyone can change the avatar again, and not everyone would be able to do so after this change then not everyone would like to use that avatar forever... but still is a good idea.

Is somebody going to create maybe an event at facebook? that way is easy to spread this "event" to poker friends and etc.

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12-28-2011 , 03:19 PM

#97

DoMeTrue

newbie

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 22

in since 1 Jan!

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12-28-2011 , 03:20 PM

#98

Cherufe

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 306

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Im in to block 6max games.

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12-28-2011 , 03:20 PM

#99

Ugly

centurion

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 169

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Originally Posted by Mamut

I'm with you!
But I think we need more time to gather more players; so this thread should be on the first page so everyone can see it. I understand that we should do it before the effective rake change but problem is---> the fellow grinders.

On the other hand 1st January is not so good, cause lots of people will have to chillax because of NYE. What about lets say 7th January?

it shouldn't be to stressfull to sitout on 24 tables.

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12-28-2011 , 03:22 PM

#100

stratomx

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 22

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Originally Posted by dybboss

cant they just ban everyone blocking tables for 24hours (forcing self exclusion), just saying, if they gonna wish to keep games going they have super easy solution...

They certainly could BUT do you really want to ban your 24tabling grinders that are going to rake a lot if this boycot fails?

Stars knows that people are saying "Im gonna leave this site" and some of they will, some of they don't, Stars would be pretty stupid to not leave the option of they playing again open imo.

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