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LockPoker payout scam: Cashout Report Via Player Data **Year-long waits** [2013] LockPoker payout scam: Cashout Report Via Player Data **Year-long waits** [2013]

09-06-2014 , 04:07 PM
Does lock still use skrill and neteller for deposits and withdrawals? Seems like those sites might be one the few to actually take action if they are made aware of the situation.
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09-06-2014 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Towerflower
Hi,

I´m in preparation for legal action against Lock Poker. If you have interest to join the petition, please send:

a) your full name

b) Lock user name

c) amount owed

d) date of the last payment(if)

e) proof of the claim
- screenshot when logged into the poker client, showing your balance and user name

to: lockvictim@mail.com


Thanks!
If you're simply "in preparation" for a lawsuit, why would you need all of this information? I'd think their screen name here and the amount owed, along with an acknowledgement of their interest in going ahead with a lawsuit, should be enough for you to determine if such a lawsuit was even viable and if you have a lawyer willing to take it on, and what everyone's legal costs could be.

For both your protection and for the protection of those who would be sending a bunch of personal information to a complete stranger, I'd think it would be wise to keep the information to a minimum until you were absolutely certain you were going ahead with this.
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09-06-2014 , 06:26 PM
Where are you filing this lawsuit? Curacao? Good luck with that.
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09-07-2014 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
If you're simply "in preparation" for a lawsuit, why would you need all of this information?
The collection of the required informations is the preparation, all the other things are checked.

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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
I'd think their screen name here and the amount owed, along with an acknowledgement of their interest in going ahead with a lawsuit, should be enough for you to determine if such a lawsuit was even viable and if you have a lawyer willing to take it on, and what everyone's legal costs could be.
All the requested informations are required for the petition and it is cost free to join.

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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
For both your protection and for the protection of those who would be sending a bunch of personal information to a complete stranger, I'd think it would be wise to keep the information to a minimum until you were absolutely certain you were going ahead with this.
I´m absolute certain that I´ll go ahead with this. The only uncertain part is how many creditors will join and to what this will lead.


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Originally Posted by Pokeraddict
Where are you filing this lawsuit? Curacao? Good luck with that.
The action will start in Curacao.

Thanks!
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09-07-2014 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Towerflower
I´m in preparation for legal action against Lock Poker. If you have interest to join the petition, please send
And who exactly are you? How can players be sure that their data will be kept confidential?
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Originally Posted by Towerflower
I´m absolute certain that I´ll go ahead with this.
How much are you owed?
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09-07-2014 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 39suited
And who exactly are you? How can players be sure that their data will be kept confidential?

How much are you owed?
+1000

seriously. this sounds like a phishing scam more than anything else. I wouldn't trust this guy with any information.
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09-07-2014 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Towerflower

The action will start in Curacao.

Thanks!
Are you using a law firm in Curacao? If so please provide the firms name. There is absolutely no chance that a firm would take this case on contingency so who is footing the bill?
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09-07-2014 , 10:16 PM
While it bear relevance how much creditors join and how much is the total amount owed, it doesn´t play any role wether a certain player join the petition or not.

Having that said, if you don´t trust me, don´t send anything!
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09-08-2014 , 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Towerflower
Having that said, if you don´t trust me, don´t send anything!
If you want people to trust you, perhaps you should be more forthcoming with information. If you're at a point where you require all of that information, then you surely must have more information than the country where you will be taking legal action. Who is going to be the lawyer, and what is it going to cost?
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09-08-2014 , 09:02 AM
what can go wrong? not like we are ever gonna see our balances again
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09-08-2014 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
If you want people to trust you, perhaps you should be more forthcoming with information. If you're at a point where you require all of that information, then you surely must have more information than the country where you will be taking legal action. Who is going to be the lawyer, and what is it going to cost?
Please explain what kind of influence the name of the law firm should have, wether people trust me or not?

To join the petition in Curacao is cost free.


For those who have interest to spend some money for a private investigation, I´ll gladly organize this.

Here is the math:

1)The total amount of tracked pending withdrawals is around USD 1 Mio.

- Let us assume that the total amount of account balances behind these pending withdrawals is around USD 4 Mio.

- If IHasTehNutz´s report represent 20% of Lock´s customers worldwide:

USD 1 Mio. + USD 4 Mio. = USD 5 Mio. x 5(20%) = USD 25 Mio.(total pending withdrawals + total account balances)

- If all creditors worldwide would be willing to spend 0,1% of the money owed = USD 25.000.-, then this would be enough for an intensiv private investigation.

example: 0,1% of USD 5.000.- owed = USD 50.- to spend

- But let us say 90% of all Lock customers have no interest whatsoever and 10% of the creditors are willing to spend some money, then the calculation would be:

1% of USD 25 Mio. = USD 25.000.- , so the 10% willing customers would have to spend 1% of the amount owed.

example: USD 10.000.- owed = USD 100.- to spend


RESULT: To put in 1% of the amount owed(for further investigation), is from an economically point of view always an instant call!


2)The total amount of tracked pending withdrawals is around USD 1 Mio.

- Let us assume that the total amount of account balances behind these pending withdrawals is around USD 3 Mio.

- If IHasTehNutz´s report represent 30% of Lock´s customers worldwide:

USD 1 Mio. + USD 3 Mio. = USD 4 Mio. x 3,3(30%) = USD 13,3 Mio.(total pending withdrawals + total account balances)

- If all creditors worldwide would be willing to spend 0,2% of the money owed = USD 26.600.-, then this would be enough for an intensiv private investigation.

example: 0,2% of USD 5.000.- owed = USD 100.- to spend

- But let us say 90% of all Lock customers have no interest whatsoever and 10% of the creditors are willing to spend some money, then the calculation would be:

2% of USD 13,3 Mio. = USD 26.600.- , so the 10% willing customers would have to spend 2% of the amount owed.

example: USD 10.000.- owed = USD 200.- to spend


RESULT: To put in 2% of the amount owed(for further investigation), is from an economically point of view always an instant call!
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09-08-2014 , 02:18 PM
Lock Poker is actually growing again per Pokerscout.

Their 7 day average is up to 40, and their 24 hour average is up to 75.

Still horrible, but it's about a 15% increase from a week or two ago.
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09-08-2014 , 03:11 PM
^ which companies are still feeding in new victims?
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09-08-2014 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by nikinblinds
what can go wrong? not like we are ever gonna see our balances again
If you view your money as completely lost now, then there isn't a lot of risk, of course. And I doubt that TF is looking to steal everyone's Lock money. I just don't understand why he's being so evasive.

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Originally Posted by Towerflower
Please explain what kind of influence the name of the law firm should have, wether people trust me or not?
I don't know whether people should trust you or not, and they'll have to make up their own minds about it. But the more evasive you are, the more concerned I'd be. I have no idea why you are so unwilling to share any useful information - you want people's full names and screen shots of their account balances, and yet you won't give even the most basic details of your plan here.

If there isn't a plan yet, then you should let people know. If there is one, then you should be willing to sketch out some of the basics, or let people know why you won't.
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09-08-2014 , 06:27 PM
What can come of legal action for the players? If there was even a little bit of money, would other companies screwed by Lock (Merge, Revolution etc.) be first in line to get at it?
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09-08-2014 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
I have no idea why you are so unwilling to share any useful information - you want people's full names and screen shots of their account balances, and yet you won't give even the most basic details of your plan here.
The most basic details of the plan are: File a petition in Curacao which requires the informations I have asked for.


People have started to send the required informations and I will go ahead wether others are concerned or not.
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09-08-2014 , 09:23 PM
All right, I've said my piece on the subject. I don't want to sabotage anyone's legitimate attempts to get something done, but I think it's important that people think things through before sending information to strangers. Good luck.
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09-08-2014 , 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
All right, I've said my piece on the subject. I don't want to sabotage anyone's legitimate attempts to get something done, but I think it's important that people think things through before sending information to strangers. Good luck.
There you go again making sense and being reasonable. WTF!

Bobo,

How many "lawyers" have showed up in these threads with promises to sue Lock? Whatever happened to that drunk lawyer who was going to sue all the Lock Pros, started attacking the mods, and then disappeared? That guy was the best!
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09-09-2014 , 01:42 AM
Yeah, we've had a few now. TF may have taken it further than most (it's hard to say with the info provided), but we'll see where it leads. I'm not optimistic, but I sincerely wish him and everyone owed money by Lock the best of luck.
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09-09-2014 , 01:54 AM
With the informations provided, it comes down to an economically decision, wether to go after the $x mio or not. Think about it, wether this was a scam would not it been proof readed? That bear relevances to those who have interest.

Last edited by frommagio; 09-09-2014 at 02:00 AM.
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09-09-2014 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 22hard4
+1000

seriously. this sounds like a phishing scam more than anything else. I wouldn't trust this guy with any information.
For those who think I do this because I want to phish your Lock account(with your "valueable" Lockopoly $$ in it), simply send the required informations from an email address which is not connected to your Lock account.

Thanks!
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09-09-2014 , 10:32 AM
What info do you need?

I will send it to you tonight.

Please provide email address too.

You can PM me or post it here.

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Originally Posted by Towerflower
For those who think I do this because I want to phish your Lock account(with your "valueable" Lockopoly $$ in it), simply send the required informations from an email address which is not connected to your Lock account.

Thanks!
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09-09-2014 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by nowitsover
What info do you need?

I will send it to you tonight.

Please provide email address too.

You can PM me or post it here.
Hi,

I´m in preparation for legal action against Lock Poker. If you have interest to join the petition, please send:

a) your full name

b) Lock user name

c) amount owed

d) date of the last payment received(if)

e) proof of the claim

- screenshot of the pending withdrawal

- screenshot when logged into the poker client, showing your balance and user name


to: lockvictim@mail.com


Thanks!
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09-09-2014 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by IHasTehNutz
There's going to be a new statistic on all Lock Poker Payout Scam Reports after Sunday's update (or thereabouts). I'm going to be PM'ing everyone on the report later tonight regarding this 'new feature'. Hopefully, the sheer size of the statistic I am aiming to collate will help to push this report, the plight of the players on it, and the community at large to further action when/where possible.

Stay tuned.
Nutz
I haven't received PM.
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