kid learned his lesson, time to move on. also those 6k probably supporting small village in indonesia now so he get karma points for tis as well!

who doesnt believe timsone has to learn the hard way...

I guess I'm "the mod" in question? If so, I have no idea why a suggestion that evidence would be better than anecdotes makes you "really disappointed".

Thanks for the additional anecdotes.

Of course you can.

Oh look, more anecdotes!

There's actually been very little.

I don't even know where to start with this. You know the site is rigged, yet rather than post any evidence, everyone else should lose some of their own money to see for themselves? And "in less than an hour"? LOL.

Also, very clever screen name - the sarcasm that I assume is intended will be lost on most people, which will make it counterproductive.

Is there something I'm missing here? Does IDN not give hand histories? I can't see any other reason that people who are so concerned refuse to post any substantial evidence. Good thing posters who were concerned about UB & AP didn't behave this way.

I know this is going to come across to some people as sticking up for or supporting IDN in some way, but it's not - it's quite the opposite, really. Superusing is an extremely serious issue, and concerns of such deserves more than a collection of anecdotes.

That makes a lot more sense; thanks. Of course no hand histories doesn't mean it's not possible to collect data, but IDK if anyone has created software to do so. But unless there is and it has somewhat widespread use, then of course producing good evidence is going to be problematic.

Not that I'm saying this isn't true, but of course you have no way of knowing this given the paragraph above.

anyone still playing this network? can you play with mutiple tablets as its restricted to one table on one device?
Are there actually any grinders or crushers on these hudless asian sites?

Ciao,

I just read the following on a review of IDN Poker from pokerscout:

Is IDN Poker the real deal?
"Yes (...) Its particular programming, however, makes play from Western countries quite difficult. Players must submit account information that includes full bank information from an approved list of banks, all of which are based in Asia."

Is it in fact possible to open a bank account in an Asian country from a Western country and start playing on IDN Poker, or do you need to open a bank account when you're in an Asian country yourself? If the latter is the case, would it be possible to open an Asian bank account on an address of a Western country when you're visiting an Asian country, so you can play on IDN Poker once you return to that country (f.e. Holland or Germany)?

Cheers,
Cavallo

more important question is why you wanna go through all that trouble to play on a site where alot of fairly reputable regs are ded sure it has superusers

Update on IDN/Shen Poker: (tldr: still has SU)

Several affiliates have been promoting IDN again, saying they have done tests, have put players on to test the field and it is good to play again. Worldpokerdeals even said that IDN agents had told them that "holes had been plugged" (lol) and there were no more cheaters on the site.

Since action apart from super superusers (I've had experience with them 2 years ago on IDN as well) was pretty awesome I gave it another try. NB: I used to be a HU specialist, playing mid-high stakes and 7yrs as a pro. I have seen superusers on 2 other sites (Chinese "4Play" and another Asian site), so have experience there too.

Alright, so first 3-4 days I saw no superusers. I made a note of every player and especially kept an eye on VIPs. All rec's. Then had a user sit me and everything was normal for about 10 hands, then for the next 20mins every-single-hand was an action hand. It was like before: like a switch had been pressed and he would play every hand and I'd flop a straight, he'd turn a high gutshot straight, hit trips and he has fullhouse, flush vs 1 higher flush, etc. Nothing subtle about it, just cooler after cooler like you've only seen on IDN. I quit and cashed out straight after.

I only have the 1 example, but it was just like before and for me at least, there's no point in checking further.

So, all is good then.

I looked into a Youtube video and the hands held just fine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UCmwZbQUK8 Looks like the old Boss Media software to me.

If you face a very suspect player or a run, you mark it down and might avoid him for now. Just make sure you won't get banned or worse for it as might be the case at Asian sites. The Terms should clear that.

Heads up and shorthanded is impossible if someone is a card magnet even if not stacked. In 6-max and so, if they play crap cards and it isn't stacked, one might just need to wait a bit better hands. Loose games alone often need better hands than usual.

Does this site not allow you to record hand histories?

Not all sure; you can login to their site and see (I don't remember I saw them there), and with a browser play. I use an android and iPad for now and I can see the hand histories of that table only during the time I am on the table. The support has the hand histories. You can check with affiliates and if there are any softwares that will legitly get them for you.

WARNING: Don't play without video recording at this time (with android) as they have a bet slider bug right now (it doesn't always work) and they won't give monetary compensations without a video proving it. A bet button might not work either at some point. In PLO, I couldn't bet but a minibet on the flop with a 4 to 1 favourite and nothing on the turn when the opponent sucked to a classic inside straight draw holding 32 in his hand. So, I didn't really mind at that point but reported it and will not be using android and just in case not the iPad either right now.

The previous bug I had with an iPad was where I could not see one card on one seat in PLO because the table was too large.

I wonder how their browser play works as I am think of multitabling also but their thinking times are short (post flop maybe the same as preflop) and no timebank and they have these bugs and won't compensate w/o evidence (many have reported and so could you, so no compensation).

any chance to get there fixed limit?

No fixed limit, just NLH and PLO and chinese or so games. Some tourneys I suppose but seemed very small and very few, not anything worth playing for anyone.

Made a video of the android slider bug that went to a technical department that said it was a disconnect and that's why the slider didn't work. It wasn't and I proved it and sent them another email but they have trouble answering them. The support confirmed that bug has been reported many times.

Using the browser as the mobiles are unplayable, or iPad just kicks one out and didn't cost me money so far but can't risk it. The browser so far not costing me money, just some lesser bugs like one often needs to click the stand up button several times before it works (kind of similar to the android slider not working) and when one leaves a table one might be logged out (iPad has a similar problem). Also, when login in with a browser it sometimes says it is a wrong password/username even when they are correct and I needed to restart my computer to get back in (my borwser cleans all when I close it so it wasn't that).

Locking this up because it's become some sort of weird spam magnet - if anyone has a legit post, feel free to report this post (red triangle to the left of the post) and request the thread be reopened.

Actually, if you have spam you'd like to post, you can make the same request so we can ban you.