i think this calls for my first ever gay post


[x] this thread delivers

It is also worth noting that in that blog it is mentioned that Schiavio was working on custom poker software for wsop.com. I think we know who to give credit for the amazing pitbull software now.

You may find this helpful in your research:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://...tbullpoker.com

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://allinpoker.com

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.wsop.com


and the smoking gun:
http://web.archive.org/web/200701212.../www.wsop.com/


WSOP Legal Update

Special Announcement - World’s Standard of Online Poker® is pleased to announce the signing of an exclusive agreement with PitbullPoker.com, who offers a distinctive Online Flash Poker Room with no software download.

updated cliff notes:


History of pitbull poker:

-sometime around 2000 Federico Schiavio, a high level IT employee of Binions,

registered the domain wsop.com
-he began developing custom poker software to launch a poker site on this

domain
-March 23, 2004 Harrahs begins legal action against Mr. Schiavio over the

wsop.com domain
-April 19, 2004 Dimensus Ltd is formed. This is the parent company of

pitbull poker.com.
-WSOP.com under Mr. Shiavio announces an arrangement with pitbull poker.

They begin using the wsop.com website to push pitbull poker.
It appears pitbull uses the custom software written by Mr. Schiavio

originally for the wsop.com poker site he was planning.

There is another interesting person in this story; Kevin Baronowsky.

He is the registrant of the following domains:

pherx.com a pherehormone selling site
pitbullpokr.com(no typo) which redirects to pitbullpoker.com
xardplayer.com(no typo) also redirects to pitbullpoker.com

dsscanuck is a screen name it appears he used on a forum that discusses

illegally accessing satellite television. In a discussion on that thread it

seems that he was busted by a government agency and turned informant.

dsscanuck.com is now a blank website that holds banners for pherx.com and

eczemaderm.com.

eczemaderm.com is a site that sells a steroid cream product and happens to be

hosted on the pherx.com servers.

What puts all this together is that wsop.com was also hosted on the pherx.com

servers.


Recent Cheating Allegations:

-there have been a number of seperate allegations that pitbull poker is

cheating its own customers through the ability to see hole cards
-the players have requested their hand histories in a useable format and

pitbull has refused
-as of today, July 24, 2009, players can no longer access any hand histories

online.

Other interesting facts:

-Dimensus Ltd the parent company of pitbull poker was dissolved, leaving no

apparent owner.
-Dimensus has never held a gaming license, but claims to be located in Costa

Rica where one is not necessary.


Many links to websites supporting the claims in this post can be found at
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...pitbull-poker-

has-superusers-540094/

awesome find! I'm starting a new thread in NVG because i'm pretty sure this thread has become a huge confusing mess to anyone that doesn't want to do lots of research.

You don't have to do a lot of research to realize that pitbull is shady and their spokeman isn't helping much.

Dave, Dave, Dave.........

Wish you would have provided some simple hand histories now?

/facepalm

still have yet to see any hand histories or evidence.....

http://www.domaintools.com/registrant-search/?all[]=Kevin+Baronowsky&none[]=

97 current domains, 34 expired.

This is the one that interests me because I know this is not entirely true, yet I also know it's at least partially true. I, for one, can access some of my hand histories online, but not all.

remind me never to cross you guys... amazing detective work

PBdave is doing an awesome job of making himself look mentally subnormal. Sorry, we've got more important things to do than get a few hand histories out of our database... what could be more important than defending the very probity of your site?

Wtffff

edit: Thank God for Stars

I feel for anyone expecting a withdrawal from pitbull... once they know it's over, I can't see anyone getting paid from here on out.

Hand histories are hard to get on that site, so if they are cheating, they could just go on making it hard or impossible to get them, and you'll never see the evidence that you'd like to see. I'd like to see the evidence as well, but maybe that won't ever happen.

He doesn't even know where his company is, how can he ever find a Hand history?

are we sure that this guy actually works for this place and isn't just flame?

LOL he would be the most dedicated flamer and leveler I have ever seen if that were true. However this reminds me of PbDave

This is one of those threads you dont open for a while because u are pretty sure it is just some idiot who lost and is trying to bash the company but wow...Dave Brenes is a complete piece of ****. He Humbertos brother right? what will u have to say with ur gd shark now u jackass.

Also Augie any update on the drive by?

just fyi I've gotten my hands on some anonymously-compiled data on those five accounts mentioned ITT and have looked over it.

1)based on playing patterns and times, I am 99% confident that these accounts are not superusers;

2)based on the same thing, I am 80% sure that something is shady and would very preliminarily say that I suspect a bot ring or some other kind of non-supervisor-level cheating.

to be specific without giving anything away, these accounts acted in a manner that all but rules out having access to all Pitbull players' holecards, but they also do some things very oddly and have a pattern of behavior that suggests...let's call it extra-curricular activity. I don't have a 'good' explanation for it, but a bot ring comes closest to fitting every piece of information that I do have, although I could also theoretically see one or more accounts being totally legitimate.

at this point, I would say I need more information but it must come solely from hand histories that I do not currently have.

Just out of curiosity, in the hands you looked at, what rate were the suspected accounts winning at?

this wasn't HH data, it had to do with when they logged in/stayed active/# tables/etc

so you base your findings after the fact that this has all come out,

Is it not possible then that these players all know about this thread and change there play and so on as they know people be watchin them now??

no, this was all past (datamined) data. I'd rather not say what specifically it was for now because if, for example, somebody at Pitbull were to give me HH's, I may or may not be able to cross-reference that with what I have and confirm that both are true and/or account legitimacy. however, it dates back a fair bit and there is 0% chance they altered their patterns that far back.

well at this stage i hope everyone reading this is withdrawing there bankrolls / any money they have there cause i dont think they'll be here much longer anyway