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Originally Posted by SooperFish24
2. Not so sure we ve all seen players with ridiculous downswing and terrible beats but the problem is the word "variance", any bad run can be blamed on variance. Ive suggested that say 20 accounts being opened by same player with same conditions for say 10k hands and results analysed looking for boomswitch or initial luck could go a long way to proving a sites legitimacy. Though its against the rules to multi account of course. What could be considered evidence though? When everything unusual is summed up by "hey, thats poker" or "variance".
What evidence would convince you Rek beyond a reasonable doubt. What would it take?
Most of us don't need a "beyond reasonable doubt" all we are asking is for something over an extended period or something that is abnormal. If you, or anybody else, actually came on here and said "hey guys, look at these figures what do you think" we will tell you. If it's so wrong then people can delve deeper and we can all look at our results and see if a pattern is developing.
All we get though are a few bad beat stories and these happen to every player and are actually expected. If they never happened I'd be the first shouting rigged.
I don't really know what you mean by 20 accounts for the same player and tracking the results but there would be nothing wrong with getting 20 players to sign up to a site and come back after an extended period of play, present the results and talk about that.
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3. Greed. Just look at some of the major corporations in the world. Oil companies being the no.1 example. Companies simply dont stop when theyv emade a bit, they want it all.
But the oil companies, like all companies, are formed to make as much money as possible. The majority of these do that in the most legitimate way they can. The rogue companies that break the law or cheat their customers will eventually fail because they get found out. Evidence eventually comes to light and its this evidence we seek. Surely you can see how unfair it is to say to any company "I think you are breaking the law, I have no evidence though on anything but can you prove you are not?"
Sooper, I am probably wasting my time here but you were at least asking questions and I am assuming you are just someone that has doubts rather than an out and out rigtard.
Without evidence what do you expect to happen? There are more losing players than winning players because with rake being paid that is the way it must be. I have won consistently across many sites over large periods at almost identical rates (apart from 1 site that will remain nameless where I am a breakeven player but I have not carried on over an extended period to find out the reasons. Perhaps there are just better players at that site). Now, unless all these sites have miraculously got together and decided that every time Rek makes an account he will get very similar results I can only assume that the deals are fair and that my ability gets me my results as does everybody else's ability.