Hahaha, the exact same shills are still here arguing against people who think online poker is rigged, like 10 years since last i was here. How can somebody spend 10 years arguing in the same forum thread..? I wouldn't be surprised if they're paid to sit in this forum and try to riducule people who understand that online poker is rigged.

Allow me to present some simple facts, and you can put the pieces together yourselves. If someone claims that online poker is definitely rigged. Then a person with very low IQ will say something like. "Oh, but why would they risk their entire economy on rigging it when they earn so much from the rake?". Well the answer is simple. If they don't give beginning players beginner luck, the beginners won't become addicted and feed the poker economy by depositing again. If a beginning player loses as fast as he would in non rigged poker, they would dissapear as fast as they came. It's just TOO MUCH MONEY IN NOT RIGGING THE GAME IN FAVOR OF BEGINNERS.

Here's how to test if online poker is rigged. Simply cash out all your money except for around 10 $, then notice the funny poker coding which is that you'll be 10x more unlucky than you should That is because the site wants you to lose it so you'll pay more. Yes yes, your welcome for teaching you the obvious.

Here is how to tell of it is rigged. Run all your hands through software amd look for any aberration of standard deviation. So when you lose 45% of the time with AA all in preflop over 400 times or go 1,000 deals without getting any pairs, then you know.

Or, you could just go on some major feelz and ignore logic, math, and common sense.

You're, not your, welcome for teaching you the obvious.

Some of us have succeeded in this business a long time, and for those of us this riggie stuff is just an amusing little diversion. It has no actual impact with the real business of this industry. Total nothingburger. If you want to believe I get paid a ton to post - cool, that just means I make money posting while riggies do not. I can live with that.

Dacy has claimed it has been rigged against him for 15 years, and he has not won for 15 years. Guess his 15 years of losing have made him an expert not worthy of any rig? Makes sense! How do the sites determine who is a beginner or not in your riggieverse?

Dacy has never cashed out in 15 years so he cannot test your theory. Shame that your 10x more unlucky theory has no way of being tested by people like having them cash out all but $10 and then streaming the hands to show what you are talking about. Perhaps one day the technology will exist to allow that to happen. See you in a few years, and best of luck in whatever it is you do in life now. You were smart to quit this industry when you could not compete in the nanostakes cash games 5-7 years ago. Other riggies should follow your choice in that regard. Feel free to tell them that, though you will not get paid like I do.

All the best.

Warning : Broken English, but you will get the point.


So after 2 years after I've got ripped off by PokerStars, I decided to deposit another 20 euros and see if their system got a little bit more fair, but oh boy... Seems it went downhill.

Now I want you guys to take a look at those selected hands:


PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.02/$0.05 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Pokeit

ivolucky (UTG): $6.91 (138 bb)
JoeDoe777 (MP): $5.45 (109 bb)
RSPro100 (CO): $5.07 (101 bb)
Tim4TiGO (BU): $6.44 (129 bb)
AbuseYourSou (SB): $8.72 (174 bb)
AVAV777 (BB): $11.42 (228 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07) Hero (Tim4TiGO) is BTN with 8 Q
ivolucky (UTG) raises to $0.10, 2 players fold, Tim4TiGO (BU) calls $0.10, 2 players fold

Flop: ($0.27) Q J T (2 players)
ivolucky (UTG) bets $0.26, Tim4TiGO (BU) raises to $6.34 (all-in), ivolucky (UTG) calls $6.08

Turn: ($12.95) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($12.95) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $12.95 (Rake: $0.54)

Showdown:
Tim4TiGO (BU) shows 8 Q (two pair, Queens and Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 50%, Flop: 32%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

ivolucky (UTG) shows 8 Q (a flush, Queen high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 50%, Flop: 68%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

ivolucky (UTG) wins $12.41


PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.02/$0.05 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Pokeit

walkmanx7 (UTG): $5.53 (111 bb)
Sluggie14 (MP): $13.29 (266 bb)
Tim4TiGO (CO): $5.14 (103 bb)
JWRm8 (BU): $5.03 (101 bb)
Huguessss (SB): $4.95 (99 bb)
skjjj420 (BB): $5.17 (103 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07) Hero (Tim4TiGO) is CO with K T
2 players fold, Tim4TiGO (CO) raises to $0.20, 1 fold, Huguessss (SB) 3-bets to $0.60, 1 fold, Tim4TiGO (CO) calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.25) 8 9 7 (2 players)
Huguessss (SB) checks, Tim4TiGO (CO) bets $0.25, Huguessss (SB) raises to $1.30, Tim4TiGO (CO) calls $1.05

Turn: ($3.85) A (2 players)
Huguessss (SB) checks, Tim4TiGO (CO) bets $3.24 (all-in), Huguessss (SB) calls $3.05 (all-in)

River: ($9.95) T (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $9.95 (Rake: $2.22)

Showdown:
Tim4TiGO (CO) shows K T (a pair of Tens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 44%, Flop: 53%, Turn: 18%, River: 0%)

Huguessss (SB) shows A 5 (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 56%, Flop: 47%, Turn: 82%, River: 100%)

Huguessss (SB) wins $7.73


PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.02/$0.05 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Pokeit

LuckyBlinder (UTG): $1.60 (32 bb)
ALLESSII75 (MP): $9.40 (188 bb)
Tim4TiGO (CO): $5.00 (100 bb)
FullThrottles (BU): $7.22 (144 bb)
walkmanx7 (SB): $10.72 (214 bb)
Mr.�iego (BB): $12.36 (247 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07) Hero (Tim4TiGO) is CO with Q A
LuckyBlinder (UTG) raises to $0.10, ALLESSII75 (MP) 3-bets to $0.25, Tim4TiGO (CO) calls $0.25, 3 players fold, LuckyBlinder (UTG) calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.82) A 8 7 (3 players)
LuckyBlinder (UTG) checks, ALLESSII75 (MP) checks, Tim4TiGO (CO) bets $0.35, LuckyBlinder (UTG) calls $0.35, ALLESSII75 (MP) folds

Turn: ($1.52) 4 (2 players)
LuckyBlinder (UTG) bets $1 (all-in), Tim4TiGO (CO) calls $1

River: ($3.52) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $3.52 (Rake: $0.15)

Showdown:
LuckyBlinder (UTG) shows 9 A (two pair, Aces and Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 31%, Flop: 23%, Turn: 7%, River: 100%)

Tim4TiGO (CO) shows Q A (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 69%, Flop: 77%, Turn: 93%, River: 0%)

LuckyBlinder (UTG) wins $3.37


PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.02/$0.05 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Pokeit

SMERSH777 (UTG): $5.12 (102 bb)
SR788 (MP): $5.23 (105 bb)
botano (CO): $3.36 (67 bb)
Tim4TiGO (BU): $7.41 (148 bb)
Kosherailo (SB): $11.03 (221 bb)
r0941 (BB): $39.18 (784 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07) Hero (Tim4TiGO) is BTN with Q A
3 players fold, Tim4TiGO (BU) raises to $0.15, 1 fold, r0941 (BB) 3-bets to $0.47, Tim4TiGO (BU) 4-bets to $1.20, r0941 (BB) calls $0.73

Flop: ($2.42) 9 J 3 (2 players)
r0941 (BB) checks, Tim4TiGO (BU) bets $6.21 (all-in), r0941 (BB) calls $6.21

Turn: ($14.84) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($14.84) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $14.84 (Rake: $0.62)

Showdown:
Tim4TiGO (BU) shows Q A (two pair, Aces and Threes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 74%, Flop: 20%, Turn: 75%, River: 0%)

r0941 (BB) shows Q 3 (three of a kind, Threes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 26%, Flop: 80%, Turn: 25%, River: 100%)

r0941 (BB) wins $14.22


PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.02/$0.05 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Pokeit

JackRage (UTG): $9.83 (197 bb)
Gersonldi (MP): $5.21 (104 bb)
BorisFaza (CO): $3.22 (64 bb)
Palapl (BU): $5.83 (117 bb)
grtobn (SB): $4.67 (93 bb)
Tim4TiGO (BB): $5.92 (118 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07) Hero (Tim4TiGO) is BB with J T
JackRage (UTG) raises to $0.15, 3 players fold, grtobn (SB) calls $0.13, Tim4TiGO (BB) calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.45) K 4 A (3 players)
grtobn (SB) checks, Tim4TiGO (BB) checks, JackRage (UTG) checks

Turn: ($0.45) J (3 players)
grtobn (SB) checks, Tim4TiGO (BB) bets $0.10, JackRage (UTG) calls $0.10, grtobn (SB) folds

River: ($0.65) T (2 players)
Tim4TiGO (BB) bets $5.67 (all-in), JackRage (UTG) calls $5.67

Total pot: $11.99 (Rake: $0.50)

Showdown:
Tim4TiGO (BB) shows J T (two pair, Jacks and Tens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 44%, Flop: 18%, Turn: 20%, River: 100%)

JackRage (UTG) shows 3 K (a pair of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 56%, Flop: 82%, Turn: 80%, River: 0%)

Tim4TiGO (BB) wins $11.49


PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.02/$0.05 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Pokeit

FedeBa18 (UTG): $5.00 (100 bb)
Tim4TiGO (MP): $4.97 (99 bb)
dropshotBG (CO): $6.59 (132 bb)
TPLancaster (BU): $12.84 (257 bb)
aXXeS32 (SB): $2.72 (54 bb)
19luc68 (BB): $6.69 (134 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07) Hero (Tim4TiGO) is MP with K K
FedeBa18 (UTG) raises to $0.15, Tim4TiGO (MP) 3-bets to $0.50, 3 players fold, 19luc68 (BB) calls $0.45, FedeBa18 (UTG) calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.52) Q A J (3 players)
19luc68 (BB) checks, FedeBa18 (UTG) checks, Tim4TiGO (MP) bets $0.50, 19luc68 (BB) calls $0.50, FedeBa18 (UTG) folds

Turn: ($2.52) T (2 players)
19luc68 (BB) checks, Tim4TiGO (MP) bets $0.60, 19luc68 (BB) raises to $4.22, Tim4TiGO (MP) calls $3.37 (all-in)

River: ($10.46) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $10.46 (Rake: $0.43)

Showdown:
19luc68 (BB) shows T T (a full house, Tens full of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 10%, Turn: 25%, River: 100%)

Tim4TiGO (MP) shows K K (a straight, Ten to Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 81%, Flop: 90%, Turn: 75%, River: 0%)

19luc68 (BB) wins $10.03


PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 ($0.01 ante) - 6 players
Hand delivered by Pokeit

PINGISKHAN (UTG): $14.10 (141 bb)
Fannaråken (MP): $16.11 (161 bb)
aDYTKINa (CO): $15.02 (150 bb)
never chase a b (BU): $16.88 (169 bb)
Tim4TiGO (SB): $19.54 (195 bb)
SharplesB (BB): $15.12 (151 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.21) Hero (Tim4TiGO) is SB with 7 7
3 players fold, never chase a b (BU) raises to $0.25, Tim4TiGO (SB) calls $0.20, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.66) 7 K 6 (2 players)
Tim4TiGO (SB) checks, never chase a b (BU) bets $0.10, Tim4TiGO (SB) calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.86) 5 (2 players)
Tim4TiGO (SB) checks, never chase a b (BU) bets $1, Tim4TiGO (SB) raises to $2, never chase a b (BU) raises to $3, Tim4TiGO (SB) raises to $4, never chase a b (BU) raises to $5, Tim4TiGO (SB) raises to $6, never chase a b (BU) raises to $16.52 (all-in), Tim4TiGO (SB) calls $10.52

River: ($33.90) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $33.90 (Rake: $1.50)

Showdown:
never chase a b (BU) shows 4 3 (a straight, Three to Seven)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 16%, Turn: 77%, River: 100%)

Tim4TiGO (SB) shows 7 7 (three of a kind, Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 81%, Flop: 84%, Turn: 23%, River: 0%)

never chase a b (BU) wins $32.40


Ready to upload full logs if requested.



In general what happens is that they let me grind 8 to 10$/2 hours (ofc more money going to unfair rake since I often get BB/SB/BB/UTG/UTG/UTG/SB/UTG+1 in a row) and then comes the rigged deck meant take that money back by giving me strong hand and the other guy a way weaker (or null) hand, we go all-in and he ends by winning, they even bait you more in the flop/turn to milk the last penny you own if you're not all-in already.

I've noticed that they really hate to give all the pot to the winner, and it would be ideal if they steal it for theirselves, so their ultimate strategy is to make the weaker guy cash-out then give the finger to the other one, this is how the latter will learn to give them a share of his earnings because if he doesn't, PS's gangbang minivan is going to take him for a ride until he gets it.




I literally knew every time I'm going to be screwed, yet I decided to not cash out to see how far those greedy thieves can go, and they did it EVERY TIME until I lost all my humble bankroll, not really I care too much about it but man that was brutal, also there is nothing I can do about it, for sure it was very uncomfortable to continue playing my strong hands because I had a bad feeling with that burglar keeping an eye on me looking for an opportunity to rob me each time I earn something, and I didn't wanted to play tourneys or any other of their crappy games which are as rigged but require spending more time.

All I'm asking for is FAIR play, is it really not profitable to run an online poker site without manipulating the cards depending on the players hands? I mean if you want to cheat on me and take my money do it but at least make it look legit.


This happened in one game session, and what I've done in between is to send them this email through their client support:

> Sent: 09/25/2020 17:06:58
> Subject: Hand histories (PS) EU - V1.2018 System is cheating on me
>
> I just wanted to say is that your system is rigged.


And they got the guts to respond with a wall of text telling me how fair and unpredictable their decks. Some elementary quantum optics process bull$hit mixed to mouse input they said.


PocketCrooks can you please lift your curse from my account and treat me the same as you treat Canadians and Germans (maybe because those seems to be richer > biggest deposits > most losers > favorated to win 20 euros bankroll guys), if yes I may reconsider trying your turdy casino for one more time.

Anyone found himself in this situation is invited post some of his hands so I laugh on his "Bad luck" , pretty sure I'm not the only one meant to get uneven odds.

In the end I want to link this guy's YT videos, they're really fun and shows exactly what happened to me:

****

Edit/MH: Removed YT link to "Pokerstars Suckout Stepchild" as NSFW.

(Just noticed it's the usual YT as was posted here first in December 2010.)

Oh my.....this gonna be interesting

You make a compelling argument OP but have you tried getting good at poker?

Could you upload full logs please.

How about those players that winning year after year? High stakes player, like Lena900, Cdarwin2, Isildur, robinho, perrymejsen. Yes they are all swedes, but what are they? The luckiest guys on earth? Or why are they drawing the "lucky" side on the rig spectrum?

I dont get it, what made them deserve it?

So you're saying next step is to fold winning hands?

Done, maybe you want to skip the $0.01/$0.02 file, link here.

Most rigged entity(ies) ever.

Total bullshit. I think there are people who kick money back to the sites to win. These people play garbage poker yet win all the time.

I am in LA real estate development and there are people who cheat the system all the time. A lot of press on people being taken down right now.

These poker sites are the same.

Completely ridiculous. Worst players ever win somehow.

Like here ?

Hard to decide who played the hand worst. Poker ain't rigged you just simply suck.

Now if poker isn't rigged, then during the first weeks after i deposit more than 100 euros, then I am the greatest poker player in history. Then mysteriously after a week or two has passed where I make 100$ a day on the micro stakes, suddenly I become a consistent loser, forever. Unless I cash out and wait some months and become the greatest player in history once again. Just as a result of the profits i only make the first week in poker, has made me a huge winning player over all. Because after that week, it is controlled that I'm not supposed to win. If i get a win, a nice bait is incoming later, e.g. some runner runner ****. I've made more than 2000 euros on the micro stakes by abusing the rig, playing when its rigged in my favor and cashing out when it becomes like in the video as the guy posted above. Then waiting some months and repeat. I haven't played much past few years however, but it still works. If I deposit something small like 20 $ its lost just like in the video posted above. The site considers 20$ nothing and wants you to lose it quickly to try again.

If you put in 100$ however, and haven't played for a while (the site can't classify you as addicted) then lo and behold, you'll actually win more when you go all in with a coinflip or better. Wow I feel some strange feeling talking about the existence of such a universe which only exists for a brief week after any big deposit (my consistent experience in my entire poker career). Yes once upon a time, before the rig kicked in, that was a reality. While its rigged however, it can go on for months where I can barely win on pure fold equity,until I get delivered AA vs AK and the guy gets straight and whole day of work lost, etc etc.

When you mention dacy, yeah we both share the view that its rigged, but other than that our views may not be as similar.

Since you mention technology somewhere, I'll give you a basic introduction to how poker is rigged. As an engineer I've read about AI. So what is AI and what makes it useful? Well the end of a long story is that, AI helps us classify complex situations, which is the basic property of a neuron. So if you have many variables, e.g. a, b, c, d... Then an AI can recognize that when a is between 49 and 58,3, and b is between 80 and 50 and so on that it can conclude something about it. Like if you have 200 variables ai can tell that when they are such and such a customer will buy this and that.

The point is that you think that everything shows up in statistics, but it's not easily measured without being able to classify complex situations. So when poker is tested which is done without AI, whether it is rigged or not, they just test simple variables in the long run. There's room for a lot of complex and controlled stuff to happen without anybody noticing it, as long as the statistics evens out in the long run. E.g. If I win in the beginning, lose after that, but win again later it doesn't look significant at all, you would say i'm stupid because thats the natural way variance works. However I'm saying, by rigging it like this they make tons of more money, because if people are addicted in the beginning, they will deposit again. Also losing an AA vs AK here, 1 time out of 20 000 hands may be rigged, and enormous impact. But yet from a statistical point of view, its just 1 hand and "could be random", making it impossible to disprove the baits even if they're rigged or not.

Maybe if you could design an AI to observe poker why you lost, taking into account hidden variables like, how long since deposit, how the site classifies you addicted based on how often you log in etc and combine it with the other relevant in game statistics, perhaps that AI would discover a thing or two, that is otherwise "dissipated in the long run".

It is a shame that riggies have never figured out a way to exploit this very easy rig to manipulate for profit in an industry with a ton of rooms and app sites to exploit. Perhaps one day a riggie will come along and figure out how they can do well if all they need to do is play on any specific room for a week, cash out, then come back in a few months, but alas riggies have shown they refuse to figure these things out.

I mean, obviously the system is rigged in this easy to see and prove and manipulate way, but people like you who can see it cannot do anything about it but complain. Cannot be that you are just an emotional degen that cannot compete. You and dacy share that delusion, but otherwise the two of you have completely opposite/contradictory riggie beliefs with how the rig works, yet you still do at least share a bond that both of you believe it is rigged, so why worry about the fact that you both cannot be right at the same time.

Anyway, better luck in that engineering career of yours that lets you read about AI and such. Just be sure to never play poker again in your life.

All the best.

So an AI that could combine sub goals of business goals together with in game statistics could find things that non AI can't. Which is the whole point of why AI is useful. Just saying to you guys who think that statistics shows everything.

Oh I am abusing the rig, and like I said, I'm a winning player cause of it. I'd say, compared to the amount of hands I've played, I have to be an enormous winner in micros. Whenever I move up however its riggediculous tho xD

So don't you worry, if I see you on the poker tables, and its my first week, then sorry in advance for easily taking all your money by outplaying you with the rig

An AI can apparently make a hamburger as well, but the problem is that riggies like you can see exactly how the rig works, and it is a simplistic way where you make a huge amount a week after you deposit on a single site, yet you lack the ability to monetize it in any way.

Imagine if you you could make thousands just by going into a grocery store, but you would only make that the first week, and after that you lose all your money if you went back unless you waited 6 months. What would it take for a riggie like you to figure out that your best approach is go to a new grocery store every week, even if you had to travel a bit, for 6 months then repeat that cycle of stores. Hell, even if a few stores steal your money in the mix you will still be way ahead.

Alas, riggies have yet to figure out how to exploit these simplistic rig systems (like the deposit boomswitch) despite having a complete knowledge of AI based on claiming to read an article on the internet. Until such time all you can do is complain like other riggies while posting no data (asking for that is gaslighting apparently) and refusing to work with other riggies mainly because your views are the opposite of them. Tough times, so hopefully you are doing better in your non poker ventures, If not you can simply pretend you are here, that is what other riggies do.

All the best.

Obviously I'm not that dumb that I haven't tried a new poker room. However my consistent experience is that if i go to a new poker room its apparently rigged there as well. One simple explanation could be that that they have a cloud sharing classification of which person played where how long ago, associated with a variable measuring how addicted they are likely to be. If they are addicted any site would want to cooperate to take advantage of making them redeposit. Such a cooperation only requiring a few people would generate tons of money. And that is what companies do, they are creative in how to maximize their profits.

In short, add an extra AA vs KK, or extra flush vs higher flush here and there, for those who are addicted. Balance it out by giving non addicted players an extra high flush vs lower flush etc. after many enough hands such that those extra hands are statistically insignificant but has an impact on who is winning or not. And guess what? Statistics are normal overall, but at the same time companies are succeeding in letting many players win in the beginning and lose in the end.

Then the answer to how are there winning players out there? Well maybe they've played long enough or in such a way that the system has given up on trying to put them in an addictive spiral. It is ofcourse in their interest to have some successful players that inspire others to play.

I've seen top players on twitch playing way worst hands.

I see! All the rooms everywhere have a secret sharing information plan that they use with each other, but nobody has ever spoken about it, even rooms that went out of business. Good to know that the small app based site in Mongolia has access to the entire list of Pokerstars past customers in that regard with each one having an addiction label to them. Sure, why not!

What happens when addicts go against each other? The software explode? They each get dealt AA and then flop quads each? Scary!

Obviously it cannot be that winning players are more skilled at an activity where skill matters, because you could not beat 5NL so the entire world you create with thousands of shady characters all working in unison makes more sense than you just not being particularly good at poker. Your next step is to team up with other riggies and change the world, but unfortunately no riggies have shown the interest to do anything but whine so far, so the illuminati structure that exists to crush you at 5NL will never be revealed, nor defeated. Oh well.

All the best.

Well any work place has information shared with different groups. It's simply called communication, some is privat and some isn't.


Apparently the simplest programming is more complicated than your imagination

Skill matters as well, but anyone can beat a pro if its rigged. I'm not here to change the world. Just saying some logical stuff that may not be that unlikely.

Cool. Create a random room somewhere and once you do that you can then get all access to these secret lists that all the sites share with each other in your riggieverse, since you now have a site. If you worry that they have your name - just get someone else to do this for you that has no affiliation with this business. Remember, nobody ever talks about them, so once you get this list you (and whoever you get to help you) can never speak of it again!




You are the one that cannot seem to figure out how to exploit a new player boomswitch for profit .



You can say skill matters, but then you immediately dismiss skill as not mattering since all it takes is pushing a magic button and a world class pro like yourself gets crushed by donks at 5NL.

Once you open up your site you will then get the donk addict list for millions and millions of players and you can then use that information to your advantage! Simple solution to your riggie problem, yet I expect all you will actually do is whine in a riggie thread once in a while about a massive conspiracy that keeps you from achieving your destiny at 5NL. Riggies gonna riggie.

All the best.

Well, when you get as deeply established as that in any business, I'm sure that you'll learn a secret or two. Or in cases like in an animal factory farm, there's cruelty beyond your imagination.


They have your identity and all, so it doesn't seem so easy? If you got any ideas, then feel free to share

I play at 25 NL and during the first week, I have most money of all playing cash games every day when I play. Like starting with 25$ having 100$ on at least one table every day. Sometimes up to 200. Those noobs aren't on my level. Either that or it's rigged in my favor since i didn't play for a while, you decide xD

Well if you can create a successful poker room, then thats more profitable than being a proffessional poker pro. So why don't you do that "simple" solution yourself?

Very spooky. That is why I keep giving you very easy solutions to make money that defeat this huge conspiracy working against you in the low stake cash games. Not my fault you refuse to act on them, as the only issue will be if your imagined rig does not actually exist.




I already told you. Create a room with someone else who has not been involved in this industry. After that you will have access to a list of the millions of players that ever played on any site for all of time (including long dead ones). So nice that they all share data in your riggieverse, so why not find a way to get it. That information will be well worth it as you charge back into the nano stakes!



Just do that on different rooms every day. Instead of 25NL play 200NL+ and make even more money before they reverse the new player deposit boomswitch. You should make 6 figures easily doing this, and in fact you can hire people (who again have no prior accounts) to do this for you, essentially staking them, since they cannot lose as a new player for the first week in your riggieverse. These people can create their own accounts (with your help) on their computers so that nothing can be traced back to you. Simple solution to exploit your rig.


I know your fantasy rig is inane and even bad for a riggie theory, so there is zero reason for me to do anything to exploit a fake rig you believe in. You are the one that believes in it, all I am doing is telling you how you can profit from it if your riggie beliefs actually exist. I know your rig does not exist, but you may think it is, so if so why not make some money from it. Stop hating money so much!

All the best.

As I indicated, it's not that simple to create your own poker room. I've only tested my rig theory on popular ones. Perhaps you need a successful poker room to cooperate with other big poker rooms on which player has larger chance of redeposit.

By the way, as a side note, I used to play on real life casinos with friends back in the day, such as roulette. I find it interesting how in the beginning everyone was making money. Then after a while every day was consistent losing day. Then a friend came from out of town who hadnt played before, and he was winning the whole day while we were losing.

Do you think its a coincidence, or maybe they can control who wins or loses? Everyone says that they win in the beginning and lose in the end when it comes to gambling. I'm just making the suggestion that it occurs in poker as well, because poker rooms also profit on addicted players.


Well, maybe I should, I'm just too scared to play with such amounts of money. And I dunno if the rig will work at those stakes either. Yeah I've thought of all the things you suggested. Anyway I'm not really that desperate that I'm gonna ask friends to register at poker and that I can play in their name, just so I can win a few more 100s $. I got other things to do in my life anyway.

I didn't ask you to do it cause its rigged. I just indicated that making a poker room is not simple at all. And that if its simple, why don't you create one yourself to make more money than you win/lose at poker? Not to abuse the rig, but to earn money from the rake itself.

You can start here

https://casino-market.com/en/online-poker-software

https://enterra-poker.com/

I hope you offer rakeback and are open to the United States when you start your site.

Hah pretty cool though, there's easy websites like that to make it. However getting customers without being well known would be a challenge. Also this part is a hindrance in my case anyway: solid start-up capital;

Otherwise it'd be cool to own one