This thread reminds me of the movie Idiocracy every single time.

Understood. I think that probably fit under "they sometimes decide to let a few posts go here and there".

Haha. Looks like I was misunderstanding you a bit there, but I wasn't taking it especially seriously anyway.

Sure, I get that. But there still should be some room for criticism and even a little simple whining, so it's sometimes a bit of a balancing act. All I'll say is don't assume that because no action has been taken, that you're being ignored or mods don't care.

Meh, +rep's not all bad. He gets a little carried away sometimes, but he also contributes positively - I think it's just that the times when he gets carried away are much more noticeable.

Pretty sure I'm sour and jaded sometimes. And he's not all wrong about some of the posts we get in the Bodog (and other) threads.



Yeah, this is definitely a problem, but I don't if there's an easy solution, especially on a site with anonymous players. That said, I still think that if someone comes forward with credible evidence, it will be listened to.

This seems an odd point to me - the infraction in no way, shape or form is related to your interactions with +rep or bringing forward issues with Ignition. But if you haven't already, it's something you might want to discuss with the moderator in question - it's possible your post was taken to be something other than what it was intended. However, it is your only infraction, and expires in 6 months, so I'd understand if you decided not to worry about it.

You got that right, Bobo Fett.

It's the first time I have heard that I misinterpreted his request for PMs as being innocent, but now I realise I was mistaken I have removed the minor infraction.

Thanks. I understand the miscommunication and I will be more clear in the future. I was merely looking for someone to read books with.

Is it even a question whether bot networks exist? Pretty sure the consensus is that there are tons of bots, especially on less regulated sites.

Yeah but the difference is... I could confirm which players are and aren't bots, at least of a certain ring at lower stakes. If I took the time and effort to do so.

Play on the big sites instead of a franchised skin, because there they are much better at weeding out bots than you are.

NOG,

you are a politics legend and I honored that you replied to my post because you are doing God's work in the joke of a forum that this site calls 'politics'.

Regarding me switching sites... I am American, so few options. Also I still have a good winrate, even with the bots.... the AI revolution hasn't gotten to Bovada yet.

LOL, I gave up on them, it's too exhausting. The group dynamic there is like a pack of dogs that just support each other without question and attack any invaders no matter how civil you try to be. There are a few reasonable individuals among the regulars but in a group they just can't avoid the pack mentality.

jungmit could make that exact post regarding this thread.

Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes.

So mentioning that the RNG license on Bovada/Ignition is no longer renewed gets posts moved to the rigged thread?

I don't see how stating a fact infers that Ignition is rigged, let alone poker in general.

Probably not usually, but such a post could have gotten caught up in the movement of a bigger derail. Do you have a link to the post in question?

Hmm, let's check

Real head scratcher why these posts were moved to this thread.

Thanks for that - if that's the post he meant, his description of it was pretty misleading.

If it walks like a rigged post and quacks like a rigged post...

This is a bit inaccurate of what happened during your recent posting there, in my opinion. What would happen in a poker-strat thread or a poker-site thread if I start very civilly posting about how some player is cheating or some site is rigged without providing adequate support for my accusations?

If you were a civil riggie then the initial response (aside from Kelvis who is permanently angry at everything all the time) would be fairly gentile. If you were a bad beat whiny or a trolly riggie then the response would more likely be less civil, because welcome to the internet.

Regardless, mathematical proof would be asked, and then not provided, and therein lies a difference. Pretty much every riggie theory (excluding the esoteric mind control type stuff) could be easily proven with some simple mathematical analyses if they were true, yet to date not a single one has done that.

In contrast, political opinions are pretty much that - opinions, and while the extremely narrow demographic of humans that inhabit the echo chamber political forum here passionately insist that theirs is the only correct belief structure, in the end that is simply a matter of personal beliefs, and it differs from a theory that one is coolered too much at online poker (which can be defined and proven if any riggie went past the whining stage).

There are a ton of political forums that have a similar "vibe" as the one here, even if they have the exact opposite political beliefs. In contrast you will not find that the concepts of basic math are regarded differently when you go from one stats forum to another. A 20+ standard deviation "see it with their own eyes" riggie theory will be equally disregarded in liberal and conservative stats forums.

All the best.

The only political opinion he gave was on man made climate change. The idea that that subject is pretty much personal opinion instead of science is interesting. Do you have a newsletter?

Or he did come in acting like rigged folk. When you are going to push theories that go against the vast majority of climate scientist you are going to get push back.

Thoughtful post on opinion versus mathematically verifiable fact, Monteroy, and I agree with that as far as it goes (unless the opinion is presented as fact or if it expresses or supports "hate"). But, there's a lot more to posting in the politics forum than just opinion.

A toy example would be using a quote from a respected expert. It would be easy to make things up to support a position you are arguing. Whether the expert said it or not is not opinion, and it's easily verified by providing a reliable source for the quote.

Fortunately, you are also inaccurate in describing the politics forum as an echo chamber. That, however, is opinion.

Unfortunately, there don't seem to be many on the right (politically) that are able to express their opinions or support positions *and* stay within the very simple rule of supporting claims of fact (and the forum-wide rules on trolling, abuse, etc.) So it is unbalanced in the number of posters on the right versus those not on the right.

Most dont read the forum close enough to understand that. Which is funny because its more rigged theories.

Played live here in France last night.

Second hand my AA cracked QQ AIPF.

Another hand guy with 300bb 3bets to 30x pre, gets a call from V who has about 400bb. Flop J82 all clubs. Pre flop raiser makes it 50bb to go, call from V. Turn is 9 clubs. Pre flop raiser jams, insta snap call from V. Pre flop raiser shows AK clubs for the flopped goodies. V watches river 8 come off and slams down 82o and scoops the 600bb pot.

One guy got it in good like 6 times for full stacks and lost every one.

Limp/call woman sat next to me cursed her luck after call/folding every single hand.

Another absolute donkey won three 200bb pots in a row, before donking it off to an even bigger donk.

Live poker is probably rigged.

That obsession of yours never ends does it?

Actually, I was just catching up on the thread, as it has been quite a while since I even read it, and your whiny, get off my lawn style posting stands out at this point, even in a thread like this, which is pretty tame all around at this point. Sorry if you misinterpreted that in a way that implied you matter at all.

Anyone that does not fit the very narrow demographics of that forum get quickly swarmed, which is why there are almost no new posters there, even hit and run trolls. Some topics may involve science, but they do not have to to get that exact same reaction, and that is why the forum got essentially a "time out" by Mason, which was either that or just one day shut it down.

I do give the unpaid mods credit there for sticking it out, and it is an interesting forum in that pretty much nobody in it is actually involved in this industry still (which is different in this thread).


All the best.

Where is Sklansky when you need him. What are the percentages of rightness and who wins the out there view contest. The people who think an rng has been rigged or man made climate change deniers.