monteroy, do you realize how old these posts are? i know you are a tricky horse, but i did not expect that from you.

and nice try to go off topic here, rng can not generate pure randomness. if yes, prove it.

hear from you soon.

and btw. if you want to keep hearing from my degen stories, just pm me. teaser: i lost 5k betting toronto masters last few days. for details pm. lets keep this thread clean and not derail it.

Hey, this was one of the rare times I got to have fun with a stalker riggie in advance to your normal visit/say something weird about me/vanish routine that you have done for far longer than the age of your degen posts.

Yeah, those were nearly 3 years ago. Perhaps you solved the RnG and/or stopped roulette in that time. Degens are good at just cutting off their vices in that way.



Off topic in this thread? There is pretty much no such thing!

Also, I am not debating your meaningless point, I am simply suggesting that you should continue to exploit the flawed RnG (since it cannot be random) for massive wealth. Just keep playing roulette!

Indeed. This is kind of fun. Usually you show up and post about me even if I have not posted here for weeks, so this is a refreshing change of pace.

I suggest betting on red next time by the way.


You vastly underestimate how much I care other than the brief amusement this exchange provides, given the temporary change of roles. In the end I know that nothing said in this thread matters, nor is remembered, and by tomorrow I will not remember you until you visit months in the future on your stalking orbit.


Congrats, but you should have bet on online tennis since that cannot be properly random and you can exploit it. Stop hating money so much and start exploiting the computer non-random RnGs!

I suggest another roulette session will help you on that path, so get to it.

All the best.

how am i a stalker? i know your are 24/7 in the "poker is rigged" thread and the only thing i remember saying to you was how you are doing. i am a nice guy, but you on the other side are only bashing on me. no idea what is going on here, i just wanted to make your day a bit brighter because it can get pretty rough in here.

gl to you and keep fighting the fight.

How quaint of you to ask. How about I show you a few of your posts in this thread over the years that were usually made at times where I had not posted for a long time.

June 2018:
January 2017:


November 2016


February 2016:

October 2015:


Certainly a hard pattern to find in your typical posting pattern over several years .





Seems you remember your degen sessions in better detail...

As to the 24/7 chant you hum, I have about 60 posts in this thread this year. Given today is August 9th, which is 221 days in, that makes it an average of a single post every 3-4 days, and most of my posts take 5 minutes to type.

Stalker riggie math - 24/7 = 5 minutes a couple times a week.


I am doing a much better variant of the routine you try on me a few times every year from the void .



I believe you when you say that. Lot of people in this world can only handle very simple things, so you are hardly alone in that regard. Anyway, 3 posts is about all I will waste on a stalker riggie when they visit, so you are free to have the last word, if you choose, and hopefully I will remember you when you stalk visit again in the fall or winter. Better luck at the roulette tables, and consider starting a sportsbook betting blog in the blog section here. At least then some people can make money betting against your picks.


All the best.

Of course they can. Many poker sites have been using these:
https://www.idquantique.com/random-n...tion/overview/

And there are other brands as well.

Hello, everybody. I am new to site and this is my very first post. I actually created this account specifically for this post and opinions. Thanks for the replies in advanced. This is exclusively about Ignition Casino and their poker site.

I played on the site a few years back and quit after 6 months or so. I decided to play on there again the beginning of this year and also just quit recently. I played all 10/20 PLO. Although I would play 5/10 or lower PLO at first and build a little bankroll. I began to play 10/20 fairly early both times though rather quickly. So, would say 90% 10/20 PLO.

The first time a few years back, I ran my initial $400 deposit into $140K over a course of 3-4 months. Most of that was in a month span, playing all 10/20 PLO on Bovada Poker actually. Then Bovada did away with poker and Ignition Poker was formed. The next 3-4 weeks on the new Ignition Site, I went on a $40K downswing and quit for a long time. Didn't play again until this year.

Then again this year, I ran my initial $1,500 deposit into $150K in just 2.5 months. However, the last few months I went on a $50K downswing and once again quit. Obviously, I am still up a lot of money on the site and thankful for that. So, this post is not at all complaining or anything along those lines. I simply wanted opinions and if anybody else has experienced similar things.

On both upswings, I obviously ran well, and the games were incredible. Did I ever get lucky? Of course. Mostly, I got the money in good, and won most of the big pots and spots. That is running well, but not getting lucky a lot. There is variance in the game that goes both ways. It is odd because both times I ran the account up to around $150K, then the real bad stuff begins to happen.

The first I quit was because of all the running bad and bad beats. The hand histories didn't seem real and they happened everyday. I know it's online and you see way more hands, more bad beats, etc. These hands were different though. Like hands that wouldn't even happen live. I would take notes of all the hands and it never stopped. After the $40K downswing, I quit. This was when Ignition first formed too. They literally wouldn't let me win. Every all in, I would love. Most of them in ridiculous fashion. So, in reality I was actually down $40K on Ignition, but still up a lot overall thankfully.

Now this time around, the same exact thing. Like I said, after the first 2.5 months, I was up around $150K. Since then though, it has been all downhill. I keep track of my sessions. I could show it here. It's been the same exact pattern since then. They make me lose every all in. Again, most in ridiculous fashion. I would go on $20K all the way to $60K downswing. Then after that, they would let me win and get a majority or all of it back.

When losing, just lose every big pot and most of them in very high percentage EV spots. Then when winning, my hands just hold. What I've noticed though this is something with the software. Has anybody noticed or experienced this??

I don't think it is a coincidence. Samething as last time and this time. They cap me out around $150K, then make you lose every big spot. I am convinced there is something with software. I have talked to a few buddies at smaller stakes and they have experienced similar patterns. They also believe they have an account marked after winning so much and then they won't let you win. A rake track to keep the games going and fish still winning from time to time.

Like I said, this isn't complaining. Just want opinions and if anybody has experienced anything like this. I am 100% something is going on. I have countless hand histories and pictures that just seem fishy. And my session tracker as well. I laugh with friends because you know when they are going to let you win or lose. Literally when winning, they let you win every all in. But then immediately after that, they won't let you win a hand, and it's downswing.

It has been this way for 6-8 months now. I know variance is also in this and running bad. But, I wouldn't be posting this and feel this strongly about the situation. I honestly feel the site has accounts locked to not win anymore or people working for site. Something. Something shady. Thanks again and really looking forward to hearing honest and good replies.

I would love to be able to post pics or download some of the hands somehow. I will say the one hand, which I think is the absolute worst of them all. Doesn't even seem like the hand would happen in real life, let a loan lose it.

Guy raises CO to $70, button flats, I 3-bet pot from SB to $290 w/AQQ10, DS...all black. Both players call. The flop comes KJ9, KJ of clubs. I flop nuts, with straight flush draw, and bigger straight redraw. The button only has $1, so I lead half his stack. The initial raiser goes all in for $1,500ish total, button folds. I obv call. He has A733, 7 high flush draw. It goes turn K, river 3. The open? The call of 3-bet? The shove? Doesn't make sense, unless you know what is coming. I've never seen a play like this ever. And they get him there.

And a few more hands from the exact same session. Meaning when they put you on downswing or losing every hand, these are ones you always lose. Have pictures of them all as well.

Guy gets it all in on Q53, rainbow flop, after I check raise, he reraises all in. He has KQ76 and I have 4557. Turn 4, river brick, he wins with gutter.

Flop J52, rainbow. Get it all in on flop w/JJ32 vs 4556...river 3, another gutter.

Flop Q72, rainbow. Get it in all in on flop w/QQ54 vs 7765. Turn 7, for one outter.

All these hands always happen over and over when they are letting you lose. And on flip side, they let you cooler people, or get it in good, and hold when winning. It is literally the same pattern both ways. Has been for months. Just curious what opinions are?

They're not making you do anything. You're doing it to yourself. People who study the game, win. People who study the rig, lose.

I get your opinion. I also believe a lot of people who think it is rigged are losing players, playing poorly, etc. However, the hand histories don't seem possible. Or the patterns. I wish you or whoever could see the sessions or my session chart. Since the tear of the first few months of year it has been ridiculous. Literally $20K-$60K downswings consistently, then it is followed by an upswing everytime.

I study the game quite often actually, but thanks.

I get variance, the violent nature and swings of online poker. Especially at these stakes. I am completely aware of this and know how it goes. The hands and patterns that have happened though means something is very fishy.

And your comment is kind of why I was hesitant to post anything on here. I knew some people would post non intelligent comments or look at the post as complaining or bad beat stories. It isn't that. I honestly believe there is something with the site and software. I was just curious if anybody has experienced this or thought samething. Period.

Thats poker dude it's swingy. And it's gonna be down-swingy if you aren't a winning player, which is what is happening here.So get used to it. (No one who makes a post like that beats 10/20 NL. Nobody...it's that simple)

And gtfo of here with bad bead hand histories no one cares.

Use PT4 or DriveHud to record and analyze hand histories. If playing just on Ignition, don't use HM2.
Record, analyze, and get over your issues.
Wrong thread

fyp

+1

Bro you should just call and tell the ignition doomswitch department to make it less obvious. Here's the number 1-888-doomswitch. That did the trick for me.

@PeterPan2018

For me it's a similar issue.
Just the enormous variance is what is ruining the games for me.
It is not the problem with losing money or being out matched.
I played tables and stakes where I was out classed before and it was nowhere near the experience.
Also I did bump hunting for some time, with opponents that barely know the rules and still got the same amount of variance.
There is a difference between just getting beat and variance.
If you get out classed it shouldn't be the way that you have for example periods for over an hour where you can't play a hand followed by periods where you win almost every hand you play.
So I am playing so bad that I can't win a single hand for more then a hour but after that I play so good that I can lose a single hand.
That is just ridiculous and should even be possible just by simple chance you can't crush like this or get crushed like that.

Rig or not, there is little you can do if you want to play and win. You can pick where you play, though that mostly depends on where the games are and what's the cost of playing.

As a new player, one tends to run good, till sometime sooner or later, one gets more balanced and experiences what seems manipulated loses. But if one has been winning for years, even as so, that's just the deal they are giving you; take it or leave it.

This happens to all good players, why do you think the term heaters or downswing exists? And why would they cap you at 150k? Why not 100k or 50k? If they want to keep you around, companies would be smarter to have the least amount of "wild swings" or "variance" so you can win steadily and keep playing forever.

These are THE best MTT players around:













Even you playing 10/20 or 5/10, 40-50k is only 20-40 BIs, is that supposed to be crazy or something?

I have decided poker is rigged for the following reasons. Back in 2013 i could log onto stars with no work off the tables and make easy money it was perfect. Now it seems everyone is using these cheat programs pio solving and a lazy old reg like me cant compete anymore. Online sites are definitely favouring these hard working players over me with better card distribution i just know it. What do people think about this theory?

Why would you expect otherwise? Do you think the skill level of your opponents changes the basic odds of poker or something?

Nope, just to mention that I also varied the opponents skill level.

I thought about it might just be a slim edge therefor I get higher variance of out come.

But then it shouldn't be a slim edge in both cases and versus such different opponents.
In other words if the skill level of the villains is the reason for my variance then my variance should also change with the skill level of my opponents.

But in both cases I have a STD of 70-120 BB/100.
Run extremely lucky and get a overwhelming amount of hands dealt that win the pot.
Run extremely unlucky and get a overwhelming amount of hands dealt that lose the pot.
Either I run so good that its extreme easy or I run so bad that its unplayable hard, that kind of totally takes my influence out of the game.

Why? If you're in a 70/30 situation like AK vs. AQ, it doesn't matter if the other player is better or worse than you, it's still a 70/30. For the billionth time, this is poker. Just like when you flip a coin you're going to have streaks of heads or tails in poker you're going to have streaks of wins and losses.

This is Monty’s home. 12 years rigged defender. Safe to say can expect 12 more. He will have to respond to this and it will include how we suck at poker, what account is this and all the best.

"Online poker is rigged!!!" said no good player ever.

+999. End thread

Even if exactly the same cards cycled every few thousand deals, that would have nothing to do with whether or not any site is rigging the deck, so, perhaps unfortunately, the thread continues to live.

Got to totally agree on that point it is a difference.
Rigging a deck of cards or being unable to provide a perfect RNG are two separate things.
By the way also a real card shuffle isn't perfectly random in real life.
The difference might be infinite small but how you shuffle the cards should be in correlation with the resulting deck, which is absolutely fine because you don't need a perfect random outcome to have a fair game.