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08-05-2018 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DonCheckRaiso
Can we agree on that the way someone is playing doesn't change the cards and boards everybody is dealt ?
If you are hinting that a special player like you is given a different frequency of cards/hands/boards to play then the best thing is that will be easily proven with a database analysis. Would have to be a very specialized rig, since it would not work for any of the other players at the tables (would be impossible to have a ton of polarization rigs going on when people play all sorts of different players in different combinations all the time).

If you are saying that you are being dealt cards and boards in the proper frequency (which is of course happening) - then again it comes down a lot to how you play, and it sounds like your play is no longer that competitive, even at the smallest stakes.

All the best.
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08-05-2018 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Then again it comes down a lot to how you play, and it sounds like your play is no longer that competitive, even at the smallest stakes.

All the best.
So basically if I play competitive I get different cards dealt then if I don't play competitive ?
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08-05-2018 , 05:40 PM
If you get different cards then that would be easy to prove, so go ahead and prove it. However, you do not get different cards. You are not the target of a personalized rig at 2NL or 5NL. You get cards just like any other player long term, so if you can no longer beat the nano stakes then playing poker for you as a means to make money is not really an option any more, especially since you will not put any effort into working on your game. Just play for fun (if you have it) without worrying if you win or lose a cheeseburger, or else quit.

All the best.
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08-05-2018 , 08:04 PM
If you are dealt different cards then that means all of your opponents are also dealt nonrandom cards. You can't have one without the other. If the deck is altered it affects everyone.
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08-06-2018 , 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by DonCheckRaiso
So basically if I play competitive I get different cards dealt then if I don't play competitive ?
Let's compare a nit versus a total spewmonkey. In 1000 hands, who do you think got more pair vs pair all in bad beats? The guy shoving every other hand or the nit who got aces 4 times in that sample?
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08-08-2018 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
Let's compare a nit versus a total spewmonkey. In 1000 hands, who do you think got more pair vs pair all in bad beats? The guy shoving every other hand or the nit who got aces 4 times in that sample?
I would say online as a percentage of hands played it would be the same. Obv the complete jack ace moron fish spewtard zipperhead who u try to tell him that he stinks at poker but he insists he wins until u tell him his stats then of course he says I may lose here but I win live moron of a mentally under developed idiot hits more hands over all. Just my opinion tho
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08-08-2018 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
I would say online as a percentage of hands played it would be the same. Obv the complete jack ace moron fish spewtard zipperhead who u try to tell him that he stinks at poker but he insists he wins until u tell him his stats then of course he says I may lose here but I win live moron of a mentally under developed idiot hits more hands over all. Just my opinion tho
You would do something like this, and he's the moron? LOL.
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08-09-2018 , 03:50 PM
why is this thread 847 sites long? a computer can simply not generate pure randomness.

noone can deny it.
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08-09-2018 , 05:02 PM
OK. Not sure what you think that has to do with the conversation at hand, or how it would be a thread-ender.
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08-09-2018 , 05:08 PM
Is it really happening or am I just paranoid?

Thanks.

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08-09-2018 , 05:12 PM
solid NVG thread.
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08-09-2018 , 05:16 PM
I know how silly the question sounds. But I´m serious.

Seems like every fifth board has 4 hearts, 4 spades, 4 clubs or 4 diamonds.
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08-09-2018 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ouinosino
why is this thread 847 sites long? a computer can simply not generate pure randomness.

noone can deny it.
1. Computers can generate random enough numbers to run a poker game

2. No site uses a computer to generate their random numbers, they use hardware random number generators which can generate pure randomness.

3. The thread is 847 "sites"(lol) long because of dumb posts like yours and mine.
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08-09-2018 , 05:43 PM
Should be every fourth board, so the problem is there are not enough.
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08-09-2018 , 05:45 PM
KdQd is dealt way more than KQ sooted in the other 3 suits. This is a known fact.

Don't let the poker Illuminati and their evil propaganda machine convince you otherwise.
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08-09-2018 , 05:53 PM
do you have any quantative data to back this?
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08-09-2018 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Obvious Shill Alt
1. Computers can generate random enough numbers to run a poker game

2. No site uses a computer to generate their random numbers, they use hardware random number generators which can generate pure randomness.

3. The thread is 847 "sites"(lol) long because of dumb posts like yours and mine.
my statement is far from dumb. rng can simply not generate pure randomness.

i thought you atleast read and understood the article before linking it? what a dumb post
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08-09-2018 , 06:00 PM
I´ve been playing poker for quite a long time now. And like I said I know I might sound a bit silly asking this.

But I really think there are way too many boards with 4 to a flush now on PokerStars.

I was just curious if anyone else feels the same way.
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08-09-2018 , 06:05 PM
can you please post your quantitative analysis results
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08-09-2018 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by H0RUS
can you please post your quantitative analysis results
I don´t have any.
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08-09-2018 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by H0RUS
can you please post your quantitative analysis results
C'mon, he's been playing for 'quite a long time'. What more evidence do you need?
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08-09-2018 , 06:13 PM
Someone at stars is probably just altering the RNG to screw with you, I'd email support
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08-09-2018 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
C'mon, he's been playing for 'quite a long time'. What more evidence do you need?
I just said I don´t have any evidence. I´m not bragging here how long I´ve played poker or how much I know about it.

Just seems a bit odd. Wanted to know if anyone feels the same way.

Thanks.
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08-09-2018 , 06:18 PM
Lock thread or move to Internet Poker
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08-09-2018 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ouinosino
my statement is far from dumb. rng can simply not generate pure randomness.
That presents a perfect situation for people like you with gifted insight on how the RnG works to capitalize on it for massive profits. Forget poker, exploiting the flawed RnG that an online casino (since it will not be random) uses will generate money much quicker, so get to work! Pick a simple game, pehaps roulette for example.

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It hit me again. Lost 2000$@roulette just not hitting a damn ****** thing

glad my bank was down (t. Issues) prolly would have lost 2000$ more
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i want to stop playing the devilwheel but i dont know how:/
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Originally Posted by ouinosino
just roulette always gets the best out of me. problem is you can loose so much so fast

i mean last night i lost 2000$ betting 200$ a number and obv. didnt hit. online roll busted. and one spin later guess what happens my number comes in...thats the worst feeling and puts you on devil tilt.

another thing which happened a few weeks ago was for example , that i was scared i couldnt get all the numbers in i wanted in time. because in live roulette(online) you jst have 15 seconds to place bets and i forgot the number 20 which i always bet. and which number came in? guess what the ****** 20 to put me on mother****ing life tilt.

i dont need this crap anymore but its so hard to stop
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Originally Posted by ouinosino
got 3 thousand in my bank and 2500 cc limit. decided to degen some roulette, ok deposit 500 and put 10 numbers a 50. put it on, walked out of my room to the bathroom hoping i would hit. walked back and lost..god fast 500 down the ****** toilette. quickly deposited anotger 500 and managed to loose this in one spin again. no fckn number again. at this point i started crying and thinling how much of an idiot i am. but im too deep in the whole i csnt stop now. this time i loaded 1000 up to put 100 on ten numbers.....but again i brick. Im sick to my stomach and did t know what to do..lol i was really hopeless.
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Originally Posted by ouinosino
roulette addiction got me again. i always try chasing poker-losses with roulette(which obv. rarely works).

any good tips for a degen like me?

its really getting out of control and im a little bit scared that this wont end well

Hmm, well I guess your RnG exploitation approach just needs a little tweaking, that's all. Whatever you do, do not stop - you are so close to solving it. Remember - computers can't be random according to your beliefs, so just keep at it!

All the best.
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