I have now come to conclusion that all online poker is a big scam and poke softwares have made thousands of bots for making money to themselves. How can alwats 52 beat aces and like every single day for years. We have NO guarantee for software like stars, partypoker or 888. i have seen that at one cash table one ''guy'' open shoved every hand and was always behind and never lost and after 30 minutes was sitting like 200 dollars in nl10 table. yes there are some people too but my guess is 10% people and 90 bots made by softwares themself.

Well, I'm convinced.

Really? I need more info. Please proceed PlanetRJ.

10 handed tables are brutal

I'm curious - how do you think bots work?

lets see poker is about risk vs reward....

Do you think caesars would risk their land based gaming license over online poker? If they were caught doing that they would lose their casino license for all atlantic city and las vegas properties. (and reno and laughlin) They would also face criminal charges as each use of a bot is a felony.

Good comeback potsie

i think stars can decide which cards come to flop turn and river and i have seen in tournaments guy 6 bet shove with t8 and i call with aces and he always flop a straight. If you see things that don't make any sense at all and always guy winning who makes terrible moves then you start to think that they may be big conspiracy there. No one really controls there software for regular basies

That has nothing to do with bots.

Well, at least now I've confirmed where your thread belongs - thanks.

basies?

"Me loosing with Aces"
What do you expect?
OP is blaming PS for loosing with AA vs T8o!
Do you really expect any logical reaponse behind that??

So sick of this, how will IP sites continue drawing players if the constant bad beats continue endlessly. Been playing for years and ever since black friday I have yet to find a fair site not rigged. Latest example on Bodog (one of 50+ this week).

JJ in the CO, I 3 bet it to 10x after a 3x raise the BB and called by the small blind, who shockingly had 2-6 yup yup (such a obvious call......NOT) I will let the champs guess what the flop was....... 3,4,5 of course. I lead out for 2/3 pot bet and 2x raised for all in by Bot, of course I have to call thats the rest of the story... I would say ok ok, if we just checked it around pre-flop ya I got what I deserved, but these constant serious bad beats and coolers, when playing correct will make me quit. I will never deposit into another site until these are regulated....

FU to all you losers and bought off bots saying *&^*&^, learn to play, blah blah, confirmed money maker live for years,, IP is rigged end of story....

OK sure, but did you know you can save 10% by switching to Geico?

No I didn't, But I know I can lose 100% playing on Bodog

The good old "poker is rigged" as always!
Why did I loose with JJ... You are soooo cheated!
I agree

But you just keep playing all those years ?

you money-maker live so why waste your time playing on these online sites?

Where there’s smoke there’s fire. I’ve seen at least 20 of the sickest run outs from bovada/ignition despite having logged the fewest hours on their platform. AK chops w/ 88 on an T/J/Q board, KK>AA on flop of A86, running straight flushes, etc.

I’m not saying it’s def rigged but something is off.

Thats ****in funny. Imo, if it is rigged it is just for action. You can be on both sides of it. Poker is just a shady world period, and really more so for Americans. I miss the old days where we had real options, you could find a game suitable to your "skill set". Now if you want to play tournies your going to need half a day to play them out. If you want cash, your playing bots, degens, and grinders.
Use to be way more casual players, but whatever, it is what is, just quit and save yourself the trouble. Nobody really cares if you win lose or draw here.
I too get upset when I get kicked in the balls several times in a row by the cards, but then I think I showed up to the game with my nuts hanging out. After all it is gambling, and I would rather gamble with my life than my money. 😀

Wouldn't 'something is off' qualify as not a fair deal and by default be 'rigged'?

Or did you mean that there is technical glitch with their software that affects the deal of cards that they are unaware of and no player (who has the capability of tracking their own play and hand distribution) has discovered?

I’m not offering a formal theory, but I’ll say this... it’s absolutely fkn baffling to me the way posters (new or not) are treated around here for having questions about weird ***** they see at online tables. Or for posting that certain runout make the hair stand up on the back of their neck. So many of you act as if poster(s) hiring a pair of hookers to golden shower your bed or something and not raising a concern about an industry that has time and again mistreated, abused, and stolen from its customers. lol. Whatever floats your turn I guess. But crawl out of my ass, I didn’t just call your wife a whore, ok?



This sums up my thoughts on it pretty well:
[QUOTE=Numbnutlow;53762113] Imo, if it is rigged it is just for action. You can be on both sides of it.

+1

So they can print money by charging obscene amounts of rake offering penny games but they choose to make bots that open shove every hand to take your money $10 at a time? Is that what you're saying?

Comeback implies I was behind. A squirrel that came from incest has a higher position on the intellectual scale than you.

Learn to play, fish. Keep donating.

You get treated the way you are. If you're an idiot, guess how you're going to be treated.

I am not a doctor, but at one point in your life did you hit your head against a brick wall repeatedly after bungee jumping without a cord and earning money on the side as living crash test dummy? It appears your brain had lack of access to oxygen for at least a full 8 minutes.

Nobody is dismissing your feelings. Nobody likes bad beats (well, I guess one person does in every bad beat story).

One of NLHE's attractions is the "variance". How any hand can beat any other hand.

A poker variant without bad beats would be the most boring and unfun game you can imagine. Such a game would die off within days of being introduced.

Let's take an extreme case of AsAh vs. 7s2h. I think AA is about 90% likely to win AIPF. But do you know what that means? 72o is about 10% likely to win. Having a non-insignificant amount of equity is the nature of things when 5 cards are yet to come.

So if a poker site deals AA vs 72o 1,000 times in a week, say, then 72o will win around 100 times! You can rest assured that many of those 100 players who had their Aces cracked by 72o will wonder if the site is "fair" or not. And some may even come to a poker forum and express that view.

Nothing wrong with that, of course, but from a statistical perspective it takes a very large amount of data (hand histories) in order for most varieties of a "rigged" deal to be deemed viable.

Yea bro that cut deep, lol. Yoy wasted of ton of time and oxygen writing this. No one gives a **** about your thoughts.