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Old 01-13-2018, 04:31 AM   #84126
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I've been playing on WSOP.com for a little under a month now.

I've lost 20 buy ins, and had 3 winning sessions.

Has anyone else had an experience like this? I've played .5/$1, $1/$2, and $2.50/$5.00.

I'd like to share my experience with everyone on this board.
learn bank roll management for one. you might want to pick up a poker tracker software, also. along with those things, start reading 2p2 threads, books, etc. i think you are playing way too high from the little info provided. think 2nl, 5nl!
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:55 AM   #84127
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Dont let his modest time estimates fool you.

Monty provides us on his "trophy" list of riggies he "taught" or schooled on a regular basis. His minimal efforts argument is belied by his constant posting of his singular greatest achievement in life (or its his xmas list of friends)

Here's a link in case you missed it:

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Glad that you asked.

If you want to understand riggie culture, and perhaps become a bigger part of it, you will find these links to be helpful. They are all different riggies, but you may choose to believe some of them or even all if you like. Enjoy!

...

All the best.

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Old 01-13-2018, 12:55 PM   #84128
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Heh, the new year brings out a good number of stalkers (that I have no memory of) from the void, making their impassioned case of how insignificant my life must be with my approx. 0.5 posts here a day (along with some some cut and pasting skills). Some of these guys do it a couple times a year for years while all along a good portion of their reason to exist seems to be to follow me and post about me, all done without a hint of irony or self awareness.

At least this guy does not appear to be a flat earther or someone claiming to be responsible for Black Friday, and perhaps he can join those other two riggies as their continue their toddler level chat about wsop.com (shame that was interrupted so quickly by shills).

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Old 01-16-2018, 10:19 PM   #84129
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once again, monty silences all. don't mess with him. here is rare footage of him kicking the ass of former pokerstars owner isai scheinberg:


https://youtu.be/_rWhunMp_WU

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Old 01-17-2018, 11:42 AM   #84130
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Heh, the new year brings out a good number of stalkers (that I have no memory of) from the void......
Monty, that joker. Always bringing new life to the dead void of a thread he lurks day and night. "No memory of you" - it works everytime! And the stalker analogies are priceless pearls of wisdom from the comedy legend. All the best.


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Well, I do have about a dozen posts in this thread total in the past 2 months, but I realize that still qualifies as 24/7 to people like you. I have no memory of you, but I assume you were verbally defeated at some earlier point in time, and still have some lasting memories of that, hence the random stalker like visit on your part.
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Cool. If we do not reply to each other in over a week I tend to forget people like you, so thanks for keeping it fresh for now. If you do the stalker thing and follow me around, just remind me then which riggie you were in these chats.
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In contrast you are some random little bitter whiner stalker dude ( I assume we had some confrontation in the past in this meaningless thread that lingers with you still, though I have no memory of it or you), and where is the fun in debating that type of sub-human, since you are already outdated and stale.
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I say that knowing it will have no impact on you, and this post (and likely you) will be not even a memory when your replacement visits in the future.
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though I have no memory of you....
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Old 01-17-2018, 12:01 PM   #84131
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Dude, you are the one that appeared here after 4 years (quick search shows your last post before this week in the thread was early 2014) to trashtalk and then do a lot of LOLresearch on me. That is the definition of stalking, and why do you think anyone would remember you, especially in a thread like this, after 4 years when your posts are just as interchangeable and disposable as all the riggies before and after you. I will not remember you in 2022 if you visit. I will not remember you if you visit again a month from now. That is because you are not memorable.

Messing with people like you is a minor, very low time using hobby I do while continuing to succeed in this industry. Nothing more, and nothing less. The fact that throwaways such as you continue to obsess about some past interaction in this meaningless thread, complete with some ancient butthurt you cannot get over is entirely your issue.

Sure I chuckle because it proves the point I often make that people like you are incapable of growth, change or self awareness, but it is also kind of sad that you and others like you (ie: Black Friday boy) are still trying to win a nobody cares/remembers debate from the ancient past that you clearly lost (hence the lingering butthurt). Get over it, and move on with your life, and let a new batch of riggies toss out their theories. Hope that helped, I am all about helping people like you as you know. Be sure to quit all forms of poker.

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Old 01-17-2018, 12:54 PM   #84132
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I got dealt a bad hand on stars last night. I had KQ diamonds and called a fairly large raise pre flop raise (my first mistake). Three of us to the flop. Flop is all diamonds, I have the second nuts. First player makes a large bet, second player calls, I then go all in (my second mistake). They both call. Player one has pocket aces with the ace of diamonds, other player has a set of eights. Turn card pairs the board so the set become a full house, then the river comes an Ace and the pocket aces guy makes a higher full house.

RIGGED
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Old 01-17-2018, 01:06 PM   #84133
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Kemi, I'm losing in astounding manner. My big hands rarely, if ever hold up, and it continually happens, and they don't hold up against the same players, over, and over.

Anyways, so they try to send me a hand history. I say,

"No, What I want is my hand history, and my win/loss history against specific players. I also want to know how many times I've been drawn out on in hands where I've been ahead."

They refuse to provide me with either of those things, citing:

"We can not divulge other players information."

WSOP.com actually does not save hand histories themselves. They are incapable of sending them to you. They can send you your game history or whatever they call it, but it doesn't show your opponents and doesn't show the action; it just shows the session ID, the hand number, the amount you wagered and the amount you won/lost.

However, there is an option in settings in the client to save your hand histories to your hard drive as you play. So you should go check that box and then your hand histories will be automatically saved to wherever on your hard drive you designate.



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The above is assuming you are playing WSOP.com in New Jersey. If you are playing in Nevada I think that there is no option to get or save hand histories (I'm not 100% on this, but I am pretty sure). I believe this is because Nevada law has been interpreted to make HUDs illegal and the way sites try to prevent HUDs seems to be by not providing hand histories.

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Old 01-17-2018, 02:54 PM   #84134
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I got dealt a bad hand on stars last night. I had KQ diamonds and called a fairly large raise pre flop raise (my first mistake). Three of us to the flop. Flop is all diamonds, I have the second nuts. First player makes a large bet, second player calls, I then go all in (my second mistake). They both call. Player one has pocket aces with the ace of diamonds, other player has a set of eights. Turn card pairs the board so the set become a full house, then the river comes an Ace and the pocket aces guy makes a higher full house.

RIGGED

Would it still be rigged if you were the one holding the aces in this hand ?
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Old 01-18-2018, 11:51 AM   #84135
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Can someone set me straight/point out a good thread on variance for me? At the site I play on, I'm down around $11000 in EV according to HM2 over 100,000 hands playing mostly .25/.50 to .50/.100, with some higher stakes mixed in. I just need a good thread analysis of how likely this is. Thankks
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Old 01-18-2018, 07:10 PM   #84136
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Can someone set me straight/point out a good thread on variance for me? At the site I play on, I'm down around $11000 in EV according to HM2 over 100,000 hands playing mostly .25/.50 to .50/.100, with some higher stakes mixed in. I just need a good thread analysis of how likely this is. Thankks

If you're serious, this is a good one I know of. http://www.bankrollmob.com/forum.asp...read&id=206342
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Old 01-19-2018, 12:48 AM   #84137
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I like global poker rng btw/ I like the merge rng too. But ACR... If you guys want some serious conspiracy theories look at global poker front page. It has the guy throwing the 2 aces look behind him. That is a hypnosis picture to hypnotize you into playing poker. ESPN / NEWS etc all use circular backgrounds to hypnotize you or brain wash you without you knowing it. I read books on hypnosis and I think Phil Ivey does it with his eyes on da table. He tell you with his eyes what to do. Its not a read he telling you fold dat hand or die son with dem scary eyes. Why he dont wear glasses. He melted Lex after he went all in with that 52o Lex couldn't even look at him. Global poker guy too his eyes are hypnotizing. The best is Dwan though. I love when he rolls his eyes after someone makes a bad call. Id be so tilted if he did that to me. all part of that sick psychological mad scientist plan they have with dem eyes. The eyes chico, they never lie.
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Old 01-19-2018, 06:47 AM   #84138
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Also the eyes tell you whether someone is a reptilian or not.
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Old 01-19-2018, 01:40 PM   #84139
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If you're serious, this is a good one I know of. http://www.bankrollmob.com/forum.asp...read&id=206342
Thank You Alex, I was serious. Its just strange, when I play live, I win 8 out of ten times, online I've played over 110,000 hands, should be about even according to HM2 EV but am down about $11000. Is the answer really live play is so much more profitable?
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Old 01-19-2018, 04:52 PM   #84140
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Its just strange, when I play live, I win 8 out of ten times, online I've played over 110,000 hands, should be about even according to HM2 EV but am down about $11000. Is the answer really live play is so much more profitable?
To encounter a similarly skilled field, you need to drop down to about 1/10th of your live stakes when you play online. There are many reasons for this that have been discussed countless times before.
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Old 01-20-2018, 10:30 AM   #84141
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Monty, who spends his whole on line life in one thread recycling the same old insults or claims people are too uninportant to remember, accuses others of lack of personal growth!
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Old 01-20-2018, 11:37 AM   #84142
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I don't bother remembering each stalker individually, since you all behave in the same way and use the same recycled insults/exaggerations, long after being verbally dispatched by me sometime in the distant past in this meaningless thread.

People like you never matter, so we will likely see you again (though I will certainly not remember you) in a few months/years, when something in your life triggers another venting spewpost from you here. After a minimal amount of back and forth where you bust out the standard "Hyperbole for Dummies" personal attacks, you will again vanish into the void. You and your kind have done it before, and it is in your DNA to do it again (sadly without ever using creative content when you do).

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Old 01-20-2018, 01:52 PM   #84143
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Self proclaimed king the riggie forum should start a list of all the stalkers he cant remember.

All the best!
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Old 01-20-2018, 02:11 PM   #84144
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Self proclaimed king the riggie forum should start a list of all the stalkers he cant remember.

All the best!

Aren't you basically stalking him ? By your own logic and allegations, you're stalking the stalker.
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Old 01-20-2018, 02:44 PM   #84145
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Don't think that throwaway rando called me a stalker, rather he very proudly proclaimed (without irony or awareness) that I constantly make self proclamations of royalty that in reality never happened nor will happen, because unlike him, I realize nothing said in this thread (by anyone, including me) matters.

Guys like him come back years later to continue some meaningless back and forth they lost years ago, and are surprised that they are told they are not remembered. Use that when trying to dissect his "logic" in the future. Other than a couple dismissive, quick retorts when his stalking gene kicks in, just ignore him and respond to the fresh riggies, like the hypnotic flat earther.
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Old 01-28-2018, 05:31 AM   #84146
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Stay away from Party is all I can say, unless you want to experience the worst swings on any pokersite.
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Old 01-28-2018, 10:38 AM   #84147
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Since the beginning of November (68 days) I have posted in this thread about 30 times total (each usually taking 2 minutes or less like this one) on 9 or so different days. You can search to do the exact figures for yourself if interested.

However, I completely understand that according to riggie math that 5-10 minutes typing total per day every 4-5 days (for an average of under 1 post every 2 days) equals 24/7 every day. Riggies gonna riggie.
Oh no, no. Who are you trying to fool? It is obvious to anyone that you spend your whole day around these posts. You are constantly reviewing and improving that list of yours trying to make it hilarious and when you receive a notification regarding this thread you start drooling all over your phone like Pavlov's dog. Then you start investigating the new poster, you go through years and years of his posts in order to find a scratch that you can develop and expose. If you don't find it you just pretend you don't know or remember who they are and you proceed to discredit any theory they present in a way that only think is funny. You craft your '2 minutes' posts by walking around your room giggling and squeaking, rubbing your hands together then you write it. You reread it several times to be sure that you included all your insults and when you are satisfied you jerk off till you are left without cum, then you hit send. From then on it's a torment for you, you keep checking your phone and refresh the page like a maniac waiting for a reply, someone to acknowledge you, to agree with you, a new riggie, a post that could lead to you displaying your biggest achievement, the list.
You read the post that made you reply, then you read your reply, again and again and again. You are proud of yourself, you laugh loudly, 2p2 is so lucky to have you here.
This thread is the only place where you can feel superior you pathetic creature. You go to sleep thinking about it and wake up for it, day after day and year after year.

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As well, if you want some riggie inspiration (whether you are paranoid as presented or just a weird, uninspiring semi troll) just ask and I will post a nice list of riggies.
Begging to someone to ask for it.

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If you want to see the riggie list, just ask - you are even a donk at being a riggie/troll.
Just pathetic.

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Anyway, last chance for you to ask for the riggie list (you would enjoy it)
Wiggling you tail with sad eyes at this point.

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Whats the riggie list?
HALLELUJAH

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Glad that you asked.
And let's not forget the riggie commandments...

You are probably the saddest person I have seen on a forum.

Now go check my previous posts, I am the one that invited you to suck my balls and I will gladly do it again.

All the best
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Old 01-28-2018, 10:43 AM   #84148
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Since the beginning of November (68 days) I have posted in this thread about 30 times total (each usually taking 2 minutes or less like this one) on 9 or so different days. You can search to do the exact figures for yourself if interested.

However, I completely understand that according to riggie math that 5-10 minutes typing total per day every 4-5 days (for an average of under 1 post every 2 days) equals 24/7 every day. Riggies gonna riggie.
Oh no, no. Who are you trying to fool? It is obvious to anyone that you spend your whole day around these posts. You are constantly reviewing and improving that list of yours trying to make it hilarious and when you receive a notification regarding this thread you start drooling all over your phone like Pavlov's dog. Then you start investigating the new poster, you go through years and years of his posts in order to find a scratch that you can develop and expose. If you don't find it you just pretend you don't know or remember who they are and you proceed to discredit any theory they present in a way that only you think is funny. You craft your '2 minutes' posts by walking around your room giggling and squeaking, rubbing your hands together then you write it. You reread it several times to be sure that you included all your insults and when you are satisfied you jerk off till you are left without cum, then you hit send. From then on it's a torment for you, you keep checking your phone and refresh the page like a maniac waiting for a reply, someone to acknowledge you, to agree with you, a new riggie, a post that could lead to you displaying your biggest achievement, the list.
You read the post that made you reply, then you read your reply, again and again and again. You are proud of yourself, you laugh loudly, 2p2 is so lucky to have you here.
This thread is the only place where you can feel superior you pathetic creature. You go to sleep thinking about it and wake up for it, day after day and year after year.

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As well, if you want some riggie inspiration (whether you are paranoid as presented or just a weird, uninspiring semi troll) just ask and I will post a nice list of riggies.
Begging for someone to ask for it.

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If you want to see the riggie list, just ask - you are even a donk at being a riggie/troll.
Just pathetic.

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Anyway, last chance for you to ask for the riggie list (you would enjoy it)
Wiggling you tail with sad eyes at this point.

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Whats the riggie list?
HALLELUJAH

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Glad that you asked.
And let's not forget the riggie commandments...

You are probably the saddest person I have seen on a forum.

Now go check my previous posts, I am the one that invited you to suck my balls and I will gladly do it again.

All the best
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Old 01-28-2018, 01:04 PM   #84149
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johnnysnow I want to make fun of you but I feel like I need to know for sure you aren't special or anything.
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Old 01-28-2018, 04:53 PM   #84150
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Oh no, no. Who are you trying to fool? It is obvious to anyone that you spend your whole day around these posts. You are constantly reviewing and improving that list of yours trying to make it hilarious and when you receive a notification regarding this thread you start drooling all over your phone like Pavlov's dog. Then you start investigating the new poster, you go through years and years of his posts in order to find a scratch that you can develop and expose. If you don't find it you just pretend you don't know or remember who they are and you proceed to discredit any theory they present in a way that only you think is funny. You craft your '2 minutes' posts by walking around your room giggling and squeaking, rubbing your hands together then you write it. You reread it several times to be sure that you included all your insults and when you are satisfied you jerk off till you are left without cum, then you hit send. From then on it's a torment for you, you keep checking your phone and refresh the page like a maniac waiting for a reply, someone to acknowledge you, to agree with you, a new riggie, a post that could lead to you displaying your biggest achievement, the list.
You read the post that made you reply, then you read your reply, again and again and again. You are proud of yourself, you laugh loudly, 2p2 is so lucky to have you here.
This thread is the only place where you can feel superior you pathetic creature. You go to sleep thinking about it and wake up for it, day after day and year after year.
Hopefully this is very tongue-in-cheek - if so, not bad. If not...IDK what to think. Projection?

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Begging for someone to ask for it.



Just pathetic.



Wiggling you tail with sad eyes at this point.



HALLELUJAH



And let's not forget the riggie commandments...

You are probably the saddest person I have seen on a forum.

Now go check my previous posts, I am the one that invited you to suck my balls and I will gladly do it again.

All the best
This, however, is definitely well done. Monty is sort of silly with that riggie list sometimes, and that sequence is pretty sad.
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