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Old 01-07-2018, 06:26 PM   #84076
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I am sure all of that sounded sane in your head when you typed it, so much so that you posted it twice. One can only imagine how many sticky notes you have on your wall connected with red string.

Anyway, my point stands - you chose the worst Rocky movie as a gimmick account name, however you will be relieved to know that I did not notify the CIA of this poor choice of yours. Lizard People Overlords are of course a different story...

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P.S. I never click links posted by crazy people, though not out of fear of CIA investigations (or whatever your babble was about) - just common sense safe internet use.
3 years later and your still spending evety day arguing on this thread against people you think are total idiots? You really have nothing better to do with your time? lolz.
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Old 01-07-2018, 07:01 PM   #84077
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Since the beginning of November (68 days) I have posted in this thread about 30 times total (each usually taking 2 minutes or less like this one) on 9 or so different days. You can search to do the exact figures for yourself if interested.

However, I completely understand that according to riggie math that 5-10 minutes typing total per day every 4-5 days (for an average of under 1 post every 2 days) equals 24/7 every day. Riggies gonna riggie.

Anyway, seems you no longer start your nano stakes Zoom threads, so likely you quit all forms of poker as you should have, and if so - nice to see some of your kind make the correct choice when you cannot compete.

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Old 01-08-2018, 12:59 AM   #84078
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I spend my time playing 50nl zone now. Much more productive that your line of work of spending years arguing with 'riggies' on a forum every day, but I guess if you can't win at poker that's the best you can achieve. I will stop by in another few years to say hello again. Lolz.
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Old 01-08-2018, 01:07 AM   #84079
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your line of work of spending years arguing with 'riggies' on a forum every day
Reading comprehension FTW.
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Old 01-08-2018, 07:10 AM   #84080
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I spend my time playing 50nl zone now. Much more productive that your line of work of spending years arguing with 'riggies' on a forum every day, but I guess if you can't win at poker that's the best you can achieve. I will stop by in another few years to say hello again. Lolz.
Wow, 50NL - quite impressive. If you constantly win at 4 BB/100 (unlikely) and play 10,000 hands a week (unlikely) every week, then you will earn yourself just over $10,000 each year with your "productive" career.

For now I will stick to backing many, many well coached, professional players who each do quite a bit better than that, while also (for my amusement) maintaining my 0.5-0.7 posts per day here (ie: 24/7 debating to a riggie).

See you in a few years, or more likely - not. Lolz.

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Old 01-08-2018, 12:26 PM   #84081
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I had a winning session on pokerstars last night, maybe its not rigged after all. Also been winning on party poker so can't complain really. Riggies gonna rig.
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Old 01-08-2018, 01:58 PM   #84082
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I had a winning session on pokerstars last night, .
Great, now I think it's rigged.
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Old 01-11-2018, 05:44 AM   #84083
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Slot machines rng hacked by teams of russians coming into the usa. So this is proof algorithms can be hacked. What makes you guys think they can't do it to a online poker site? They done it with the lotto too.

y examining rental-car records, Missouri authorities identified the Lumiere Place scammer as Murat Bliev, a 37-year-old Russian national. Bliev had flown back to Moscow on June 6, but the St. Petersburg–based organization he worked for, which employs dozens of operatives to manipulate slot machines around the world, quickly sent him back to the United States to join another cheating crew. The decision to redeploy Bliev to the US would prove to be a rare misstep for a venture that’s quietly making millions by cracking some of the gaming industry’s most treasured algorithms.

Rngs can be hacked. This should not even be a serious argument. THat is why I play big money in live cash games with real cards. Practice online and use that for a edge in live games. Anything that is software related can be hacked. Anything online can be scammed its not hard to do. You guys just have to accept that. I do make money online btw but I don't trust online poker. But to be fair I don't trust any online gambling game not just poker because its been proven software has been manipulated and also the challenge of getting paid I have had issues with several sites.

We can go back to absolute poker days of when they actually got caught cheating. That is 100% proof online poker has been caught rigging games in that moment. A site actually got caught doing it. The reality is they are the only ones who have been CAUGHT doing it. When one site is caught that makes it possible for all the sites to be doing it, but they are smarter about it where they don't get caught. It doesn't mean they are cheating nobody really knows for sure. I just keep working on my game and getting better and my results are getting better. Do I feel cheated sometimes? Yes I do. But you gotta get over that and use online poker as a tool to get better. I look at it as paying for education when I am having a bad variance session. Getting hand history and getting to go over them is a huge edge over live players and you all know that its part of why we play online. So we can get better faster then the live players who done it for more years then us.
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Old 01-11-2018, 05:57 AM   #84084
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KemiKings,

I've heard people say the earth is flat and that they are spraying the population with chemicals. You might want to look into that.
If you know basic geometry and distance then the earth actually measures out to be flat. They already done several tests where the earth should bend based on its measurements after so many miles and it still flat. I tried to debunk flat earthers and I can't. Globe earthers explanations is like CNN fake news cause it doesn't follow basic geometry. And the reason we don't float in the air its not because of gravity its because of density. Just like if we fill balloon full of air it will float. It becomes less dense then the air. Gravity is not going to hold it down cause it doesn't exist. If gravity doesn't exist then the earth can't be a globe. That is their only argument to making people believe the earth is round. They say well its gravity. Ya sure. If “gravity” is really a force strong enough to hold the world’s oceans, buildings, people and atmosphere stuck to the surface of a spinning ball, then it is impossible for “gravity” to also simultaneously be weak enough to allow little birds, bugs, and planes to take-off and travel freely unabated in any direction.

They don't have to spray us with chemicals btw. Our health is being ruined by the smog that comes from exhausts on cars. It is why people that live away from cities and heavy populated areas full of cars and smog tend to live healthier lives and live longer. Their body actually breathes in fresher air. Its why its good to go to the mountains once a week so your body can breathe in fresh air and push out the polluted air you breathe in every day. And I can confirm this works cause I have not had a cold for over 15 years. Your body stays in a polluted city breathing in toxic air you are going to get sick if you never get some fresh air.

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Old 01-11-2018, 06:44 AM   #84085
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Wow. I don't even know what to say. Globe earthers. Balloons full of air float. No gravity. Of course there isn't. Well done.

****ing moronic scientists.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:18 AM   #84086
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I went to the mountains for some fresh air, but it turns out they were flat due to density.

If only there was a way to test if a balloon filled with regular air floated without aid as he suggests. Perhaps Balloon Manager?

People will think his post is fake/ a troll, but there are plenty of paranoid people in the world with their brain wired that way (perhaps due to the gravity of their situation).
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:26 AM   #84087
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If you know basic geometry and distance then the earth actually measures out to be flat. They already done several tests where the earth should bend based on its measurements after so many miles and it still flat. I tried to debunk flat earthers and I can't. Globe earthers explanations is like CNN fake news cause it doesn't follow basic geometry. And the reason we don't float in the air its not because of gravity its because of density. Just like if we fill balloon full of air it will float. It becomes less dense then the air. Gravity is not going to hold it down cause it doesn't exist. If gravity doesn't exist then the earth can't be a globe. That is their only argument to making people believe the earth is round. They say well its gravity. Ya sure. If “gravity” is really a force strong enough to hold the world’s oceans, buildings, people and atmosphere stuck to the surface of a spinning ball, then it is impossible for “gravity” to also simultaneously be weak enough to allow little birds, bugs, and planes to take-off and travel freely unabated in any direction.

They don't have to spray us with chemicals btw. Our health is being ruined by the smog that comes from exhausts on cars. It is why people that live away from cities and heavy populated areas full of cars and smog tend to live healthier lives and live longer. Their body actually breathes in fresher air. Its why its good to go to the mountains once a week so your body can breathe in fresh air and push out the polluted air you breathe in every day. And I can confirm this works cause I have not had a cold for over 15 years. Your body stays in a polluted city breathing in toxic air you are going to get sick if you never get some fresh air.
Is this the same "they" that told us that space objects like satellites, etc, orbiting Earth attract the same sort of thing you impart? Apparently, the objects become coated with a thin film of free-floating excretia flushed from manned space flights. You should buy a telescope and look for turds in space.

Design an appropriate icon and add their positions to Google Maps. You'll become famous.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:54 AM   #84088
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You guys are mocking true knowledge and a superior intellect. I(you)burydoscocaroaches, don't listen to the mockeries of these ignorant people. I for one would love to hear more of what you have to say!
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Old 01-11-2018, 01:45 PM   #84089
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3 years later and your still spending evety day arguing on this thread against people you think are total idiots? You really have nothing better to do with your time? lolz.
3 years only? Add another (1) before that 3 for 13 and you got the time correct
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Old 01-11-2018, 02:16 PM   #84090
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3 years only? Add another (1) before that 3 for 13 and you got the time correct
You're a die hard fan from what I gather. Monteroy has really built up a community.
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Old 01-11-2018, 03:28 PM   #84091
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Wouldn't a flat earth also need gravity to keep people and things on the surface? Or is all of our physics knowledge and Newton's laws also wrong?
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Wouldn't a flat earth also need gravity to keep people and things on the surface? Or is all of our physics knowledge and Newton's laws also wrong?
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How else do you explain a balloon floating if you fill it with air?
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Old 01-11-2018, 04:44 PM   #84093
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Wouldn't a flat earth also need gravity to keep people and things on the surface? Or is all of our physics knowledge and Newton's laws also wrong?
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Newton didn't exist. He was made up.
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Old 01-11-2018, 04:47 PM   #84094
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Earth is flat. Just look outside dummies. Doesn't look round to me now does it?
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Old 01-11-2018, 04:57 PM   #84095
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Earth is flat. Just look outside dummies. Doesn't look round to me now does it?
Stop saying things that are tottally obv and widely known and have been discovered ages ago.

At least try to be funny and try to misinform people with false facts, like the moon not being made of cheese. Those greedy bastards of NASA have been stocking up cheese for decades now and they won't admit it.
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Old 01-11-2018, 04:59 PM   #84096
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Seriously though, look at flattard videos on youtube. It's just a pure dose of aids straight to the brain.
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Old 01-11-2018, 05:11 PM   #84097
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Density, dummy, density.
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Old 01-11-2018, 05:25 PM   #84098
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Seriously though, look at flattard videos on youtube. It's just a pure dose of aids straight to the brain.

It doesn't surprise me. The norse people for example believed that the oceans waters were held in by a giant snake that surrounded them and put his tail into his mouth to basically not let the water fall out and the oceans to dry up.

And there are many more ridiculous examples from pretty much any culture that existed on this (flat) planet from various times about different things that a lot of people believed to be true. Some people choose to still believe in some of those things and I guess this is how it'll be forever.

On a more serious note, do not insult the great minds of this planet.
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Old 01-11-2018, 05:44 PM   #84099
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I'm not trolling, I think it was jungleman who said he cant win online on pokerstars cash games but he wins everywhere else, its on doug pokes youtube channel in the interview with him
yeah, but cates is so spastc; it's hard to tell when he's being cereal. (like when he was talking about bots in sng's).
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:41 PM   #84100
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It is rigged so that all players break even and their bankroll is slowly eroded by the rake. Win a bit, lose a bit and so the cycle continues until the rake eats your bankroll. Deposit and go again. The only winner is the poker site.
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