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01-11-2018 , 05:44 AM
Slot machines rng hacked by teams of russians coming into the usa. So this is proof algorithms can be hacked. What makes you guys think they can't do it to a online poker site? They done it with the lotto too.

y examining rental-car records, Missouri authorities identified the Lumiere Place scammer as Murat Bliev, a 37-year-old Russian national. Bliev had flown back to Moscow on June 6, but the St. Petersburg–based organization he worked for, which employs dozens of operatives to manipulate slot machines around the world, quickly sent him back to the United States to join another cheating crew. The decision to redeploy Bliev to the US would prove to be a rare misstep for a venture that’s quietly making millions by cracking some of the gaming industry’s most treasured algorithms.

Rngs can be hacked. This should not even be a serious argument. THat is why I play big money in live cash games with real cards. Practice online and use that for a edge in live games. Anything that is software related can be hacked. Anything online can be scammed its not hard to do. You guys just have to accept that. I do make money online btw but I don't trust online poker. But to be fair I don't trust any online gambling game not just poker because its been proven software has been manipulated and also the challenge of getting paid I have had issues with several sites.

We can go back to absolute poker days of when they actually got caught cheating. That is 100% proof online poker has been caught rigging games in that moment. A site actually got caught doing it. The reality is they are the only ones who have been CAUGHT doing it. When one site is caught that makes it possible for all the sites to be doing it, but they are smarter about it where they don't get caught. It doesn't mean they are cheating nobody really knows for sure. I just keep working on my game and getting better and my results are getting better. Do I feel cheated sometimes? Yes I do. But you gotta get over that and use online poker as a tool to get better. I look at it as paying for education when I am having a bad variance session. Getting hand history and getting to go over them is a huge edge over live players and you all know that its part of why we play online. So we can get better faster then the live players who done it for more years then us.
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01-11-2018 , 05:57 AM
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KemiKings,

I've heard people say the earth is flat and that they are spraying the population with chemicals. You might want to look into that.
If you know basic geometry and distance then the earth actually measures out to be flat. They already done several tests where the earth should bend based on its measurements after so many miles and it still flat. I tried to debunk flat earthers and I can't. Globe earthers explanations is like CNN fake news cause it doesn't follow basic geometry. And the reason we don't float in the air its not because of gravity its because of density. Just like if we fill balloon full of air it will float. It becomes less dense then the air. Gravity is not going to hold it down cause it doesn't exist. If gravity doesn't exist then the earth can't be a globe. That is their only argument to making people believe the earth is round. They say well its gravity. Ya sure. If “gravity” is really a force strong enough to hold the world’s oceans, buildings, people and atmosphere stuck to the surface of a spinning ball, then it is impossible for “gravity” to also simultaneously be weak enough to allow little birds, bugs, and planes to take-off and travel freely unabated in any direction.

They don't have to spray us with chemicals btw. Our health is being ruined by the smog that comes from exhausts on cars. It is why people that live away from cities and heavy populated areas full of cars and smog tend to live healthier lives and live longer. Their body actually breathes in fresher air. Its why its good to go to the mountains once a week so your body can breathe in fresh air and push out the polluted air you breathe in every day. And I can confirm this works cause I have not had a cold for over 15 years. Your body stays in a polluted city breathing in toxic air you are going to get sick if you never get some fresh air.

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01-11-2018 , 06:44 AM
Wow. I don't even know what to say. Globe earthers. Balloons full of air float. No gravity. Of course there isn't. Well done.

****ing moronic scientists.
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01-11-2018 , 07:18 AM
I went to the mountains for some fresh air, but it turns out they were flat due to density.

If only there was a way to test if a balloon filled with regular air floated without aid as he suggests. Perhaps Balloon Manager?

People will think his post is fake/ a troll, but there are plenty of paranoid people in the world with their brain wired that way (perhaps due to the gravity of their situation).
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01-11-2018 , 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by iburydoscocaroaches
If you know basic geometry and distance then the earth actually measures out to be flat. They already done several tests where the earth should bend based on its measurements after so many miles and it still flat. I tried to debunk flat earthers and I can't. Globe earthers explanations is like CNN fake news cause it doesn't follow basic geometry. And the reason we don't float in the air its not because of gravity its because of density. Just like if we fill balloon full of air it will float. It becomes less dense then the air. Gravity is not going to hold it down cause it doesn't exist. If gravity doesn't exist then the earth can't be a globe. That is their only argument to making people believe the earth is round. They say well its gravity. Ya sure. If “gravity” is really a force strong enough to hold the world’s oceans, buildings, people and atmosphere stuck to the surface of a spinning ball, then it is impossible for “gravity” to also simultaneously be weak enough to allow little birds, bugs, and planes to take-off and travel freely unabated in any direction.

They don't have to spray us with chemicals btw. Our health is being ruined by the smog that comes from exhausts on cars. It is why people that live away from cities and heavy populated areas full of cars and smog tend to live healthier lives and live longer. Their body actually breathes in fresher air. Its why its good to go to the mountains once a week so your body can breathe in fresh air and push out the polluted air you breathe in every day. And I can confirm this works cause I have not had a cold for over 15 years. Your body stays in a polluted city breathing in toxic air you are going to get sick if you never get some fresh air.
Is this the same "they" that told us that space objects like satellites, etc, orbiting Earth attract the same sort of thing you impart? Apparently, the objects become coated with a thin film of free-floating excretia flushed from manned space flights. You should buy a telescope and look for turds in space.

Design an appropriate icon and add their positions to Google Maps. You'll become famous.
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01-11-2018 , 07:54 AM
You guys are mocking true knowledge and a superior intellect. I(you)burydoscocaroaches, don't listen to the mockeries of these ignorant people. I for one would love to hear more of what you have to say!
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01-11-2018 , 01:45 PM
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3 years later and your still spending evety day arguing on this thread against people you think are total idiots? You really have nothing better to do with your time? lolz.
3 years only? Add another (1) before that 3 for 13 and you got the time correct
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01-11-2018 , 02:16 PM
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3 years only? Add another (1) before that 3 for 13 and you got the time correct
You're a die hard fan from what I gather. Monteroy has really built up a community.
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01-11-2018 , 03:28 PM
Wouldn't a flat earth also need gravity to keep people and things on the surface? Or is all of our physics knowledge and Newton's laws also wrong?
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Last edited by NewOldGuy; 01-11-2018 at 03:31 PM. Reason: Quantum tho, wait for it...
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01-11-2018 , 04:24 PM
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Wouldn't a flat earth also need gravity to keep people and things on the surface? Or is all of our physics knowledge and Newton's laws also wrong?
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How else do you explain a balloon floating if you fill it with air?
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01-11-2018 , 04:44 PM
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Wouldn't a flat earth also need gravity to keep people and things on the surface? Or is all of our physics knowledge and Newton's laws also wrong?
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Newton didn't exist. He was made up.
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01-11-2018 , 04:47 PM
Earth is flat. Just look outside dummies. Doesn't look round to me now does it?
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01-11-2018 , 04:57 PM
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Earth is flat. Just look outside dummies. Doesn't look round to me now does it?
Stop saying things that are tottally obv and widely known and have been discovered ages ago.

At least try to be funny and try to misinform people with false facts, like the moon not being made of cheese. Those greedy bastards of NASA have been stocking up cheese for decades now and they won't admit it.
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01-11-2018 , 04:59 PM
Seriously though, look at flattard videos on youtube. It's just a pure dose of aids straight to the brain.
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01-11-2018 , 05:11 PM
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Wouldn't a flat earth also need gravity to keep people and things on the surface? Or is all of our physics knowledge and Newton's laws also wrong?
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Density, dummy, density.
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01-11-2018 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
Seriously though, look at flattard videos on youtube. It's just a pure dose of aids straight to the brain.

It doesn't surprise me. The norse people for example believed that the oceans waters were held in by a giant snake that surrounded them and put his tail into his mouth to basically not let the water fall out and the oceans to dry up.

And there are many more ridiculous examples from pretty much any culture that existed on this (flat) planet from various times about different things that a lot of people believed to be true. Some people choose to still believe in some of those things and I guess this is how it'll be forever.

On a more serious note, do not insult the great minds of this planet.
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01-11-2018 , 05:44 PM
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I'm not trolling, I think it was jungleman who said he cant win online on pokerstars cash games but he wins everywhere else, its on doug pokes youtube channel in the interview with him
yeah, but cates is so spastc; it's hard to tell when he's being cereal. (like when he was talking about bots in sng's).
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01-11-2018 , 06:41 PM
It is rigged so that all players break even and their bankroll is slowly eroded by the rake. Win a bit, lose a bit and so the cycle continues until the rake eats your bankroll. Deposit and go again. The only winner is the poker site.
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01-11-2018 , 06:58 PM
All players breakeven ? Curious. Most rigged theories usually involve not being able to win. Breaking even actually implies that you have to win sometimes.

At least your rigging theory actually makes the site money. Not agreeing with you though.
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01-11-2018 , 07:17 PM
Yes, break even but lose to rake. It's a bit like Betfair, the sports betting exchange. All the prices are roughly correct, so everyone breaks even but lose to the 2 to 5 percent commission paid on each winning bet. How much rake do pokerstars charge?
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01-12-2018 , 06:16 AM
Are you saying that your rigged theory has nothing to do with the RNG but rather with the fact that Stars is charging very high rake ?
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01-12-2018 , 07:09 AM
The rake is between 3.5 and 5 percent, thats quite a lot. If u win a 100 dollar pot you only get paid 95. In an evenly matched player pool the only big winner would be pokerstars themselves.
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01-12-2018 , 07:17 AM
Again, what does any of this have to do with the distribution of the cards?
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01-12-2018 , 07:42 AM
Did you all know that "they" patrol the south pole with navy ships to prevent the common people from reaching the side of the earth plate?
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01-12-2018 , 09:14 AM
Who would want to go to the South Pole? I was wondering if one person turned left out of LV and one turned right, to go to England, which one wouldn't be seen again?
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