Someone's provided a similar example in the past, it went as you'd expect.

I guess Pots thought that "15" would appeal more to him than "16".

My brain is not recognizing it. It's in hem2.

I think I have been exploiting it pretty well. 14 bb-100

They needed to give you 9 days of winning to even things out according to your theory. Check your HEM to see if it tells you how many of your theories of the day accidentally prove (if true) that you are a weak player being helped by the sites. No worries - you have a large enough sample size of conflicting, made up theories by this point.

I realize you will not understand any of this, and will reply in a way that is unrelated, just as you always do, like in the post above where a poster asked you to follow a sequence of 1,3,5,7,11,13 and asked what comes next and you replied that your HEM database said 14 BB/100.

All the best.

Truer words were never spoken.

Just to throw a light-hearted comment into this already hilarious thread, I thought I'd share something I came across on another message board.

We all know how many poker riggies there are out there - and we think we've sort of cornered the market in this thread. But wait, there's more: I read someone posting about Words With Friends. He is convinced that WWF is rigged so that certain people get good letters more than other people.

At least he didn't try to suggest that Zynga was rigging it in order to increase rake

Here is the Zynga is rigged thread

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...igged-1163239/


Riggies exist in pretty much every facet of life, because people can be paranoid about everything. Doubt anyone thoughT this thread cornered the market on anything, in fact its basically a conspiracy light thread, because many riggies are primarily whiners (such as this jungmit guy) who come here to complain when they need to bawl a bit.


All the best.

I don't think HEM2 has an opinion on the matter. It's simply recording your observations. The interpretation is 100% your own.

Hey guys,

This is my first post and sadly goes for this topic. I have few things to say only.

Firstly, these two or three passionate supporters of the idea that everything is perfectly fine with online poker and there should be no doubt about that, or else you are dumb, pathetic, paranoid, schizophrenic, donk, idiot, ridiculous etc.. etc.. I mean these guys that have been living in this thread for the last decade bullying everyone who is uncertain of the fair play of online poker, they need to keep calm!

Nothing is for certain in this life, some even claim that life itself is almost certainly a simulation' before bullying them, you should know that probably they are brighter than you are and they have proven it, I guess you would not have the balls to bully Elon Musk's intelligence or would you ?

So if life itself could be a simulation then why the f*** wouldn't some online shuffle potentially be one too ? A good enough simulation to trick people like you and me into thinking that is a real fair and random shuffle when in fact is just a simulation of a real fair and random shuffle ?

The two to three passionate supporters may be simulations to trick people like you into thinking they do not see that life and other simulations may be simulations, thus simulating a simulation that will simulate confusion those who do not properly create a simulation of the simulated simulation that is actually a simulation of the very similar simulated simulation (or is it really a simulation instead). Something to definitely simulate about.

All the simulated best.

Actually, I've never seen a single person support this idea. But I've seen lots of people erect this straw man.

This would be funny, except that I think the huge overuse of the word "bullying" these days can't be helpful to those who truly are bullied. The more the word gets misused, the less seriously it's taken.

But what makes you think anyone needs to be told to keep calm? I know it's a cute saying on t-shirts and mugs and all, but I don't know of many people in here that I'd assume were less than calm.

Just because some claim "that life itself is almost certainly a simulation" (I'm taking your word for this - I've never seen such a claim) doesn't mean it could be.

But if it is, then what's the point even discussing whether online poker is rigged? Your suggestion seems to be that anything is possible; if that's your sincere belief, then you might as well go through life enjoying it, and not worry about these things you can't control.

there's a straw man waiting in the sky.
he'd like to come and meet us but he thinks he'd blow our minds.

That's funny because this thread is full of those who claim online poker is as fair as it gets, well most probably it is but having few slight concerns won't hurt nobody.

Calling people names is bullying and there is at least one einstein here that has been doing it over and over through the years.

The attitude of people with a huge ego and a big conceit makes me think they need to be told to calm down and try to be constructive.

"The chance we are not living in a computer simulation is one in billions" (quoting exact words)

Ofcourse just because some claim so does not mean it could be. The University of Michigan is testing the idea and a swath of technologists and phycicists believe that the theory will be proved.


This piece of advice makes no sense to me as regardless of life being or not being a simulation I will keep playing poker, I will go through life enjoying it (never said I wouldn't). And ofcourse I will keep being worried about the integrity of the game that I love the most, so there is the point.

Quote one.

No. You're making the riggie mistake of interpreting someone's refutation of a rigged theory as meaning they are saying "online poker is as fair as it gets". It isn't. I can refute 100 people with their theories of why they think online poker is rigged, while still not saying that I know online poker is definitely fair.

No, it's not. But that does seem to be the way a lot of people like to incorrectly use the term.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bullying

": abuse and mistreatment of someone vulnerable by someone stronger, more powerful, etc. : the actions and behavior of a bully"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullying

"Bullying is the use of force, threat, or coercion to abuse, intimidate, or aggressively dominate others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual. One essential prerequisite is the perception, by the bully or by others, of an imbalance of social or physical power, which distinguishes bullying from conflict."

Where's the imbalance of power? There isn't one. Strangers calling other strangers names online isn't bullying - it's conflict.

More assumptions, this time about ego and conceit. But sure, the comment to be more constructive is fair.

Just so you know, you're free to link where it comes from.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...-a7060941.html

I'd need to know more about this; from what he said, I'm not buying it. But it would be a very interesting conversation.

Well, I'm not positive what your point was of bringing life being a simulation into the conversation in the first place. You seemed to suggest that it means that the online poker shuffle could be a simulation of a real and fair shuffle - I assumed you were suggesting that somehow allows for an undetectable rig that wouldn't be possible in the real world. And I'm saying if that's possible, what's the point in worrying about it? What am I going to do about a simulated world where I can be screwed with no way of proving it? Might as well go along with it and enjoy the ride.

top 5 movie EVER!

It's probably clearer to call the bullying here cyberbullying:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberbullying

"Cyberbullying or cyberharassment is a form of bullying or harassment using electronic forms of contact. ... Harmful bullying behavior can include posting rumors about a person, threats, sexual remarks, disclose victims' personal information, or pejorative labels (i.e., hate speech). Bullying or harassment can be identified by repeated behavior and an intent to harm. Victims may have lower self-esteem, increased suicidal ideation, and a variety of emotional responses, retaliating, being scared, frustrated, angry, and depressed. Individuals have reported that cyberbullying can be more harmful than traditional bullying.

"Internet trolling is a common form of bullying over the Internet in an online community (such as in online gaming or social media) in order to elicit a reaction, disruption, or for their own personal amusement."

Simulation theory has no bearing on this topic. Whether or not simulation theory is true, someone created RNGs. Poker RNGs have been tested, certified, and re tested by the (simulated?) poker community. No one has come forward with DATA that shows unfair RNGs. That is a fact.

The reason riggies get ridiculed is that they come in this thread guns blazin' claiming they have cracked the code on some weird rigged RNG theory that only they can detect. Then they proceed to provide zero data, alter their theory to defend against logical counter arguments and cold hard facts- and eventually give up. Sometimes they get flamed- that's what happens when you propose ridiculous theories that get disproven, and continue to defend them.

I'd like to see if someone can dig up a post of a user courteously coming forward looking for evidence of rigging out of genuine curiosity- and then getting flamed. I can't recall something like that happening as long as I have been lurking ITT.

I also love how when riggies get backed into a corner they get super existential and nihilistic, thinking that disproving our known laws of the universe somehow makes them correct. It's happened a handful of times ITT, always amusing.

What are you on about?

I do not believe online poker is rigged, never said so. Wait for one of them "riggies" to come and show him how much of a superior intelligence you are by ridiculing his little stupid theory with your undisputed facts.

Very few riggies ever get to the existential stage, although a few others dabble in that type of area like this recent Simulation Riggie.



Indestructibly Backwards Software Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=64086
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=64087

Quantum Entanglement Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28.../#post45684925
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=74304

User Import Riggie (who only trusts the Swiss)

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2618

Deterministic Universe Riggie

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=64951

Stats PhD Who Does Not Know How to Use Holdem Manager Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1700

A Person Who Can Stop a Beam of Light Can Also Stop the Rig Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=64986


However, most riggies are simpler creatures saying things like the following instead:



All the best.

Which is still a form of bullying, and thus would require an imbalance in power.

Or we can go with this definition, later in the article:

"A frequently used definition of cyberbullying is "an aggressive, intentional act or behavior that is carried out by a group or an individual, using electronic forms of contact, repeatedly and over time against a victim who cannot easily defend him or herself."

There's no reason anyone can't defend themselves here.

Cyberbullying is used a little more loosely, so perhaps it could be used here, although I think it's quite a stretch. Calling it bullying, though, is just silly.

Woow the einstein of this thread is back' All hail our lord ruler of the riggies and of this whole thread !

If that's addressed to me, I'm not sure why the need for the sarcastic tone. I've been nothing but civil to you, so there seems to be some irony in your post given your complaints about bullying.

Cyberbullying is bullying that takes place over digital devices like cell phones, computers, and tablets.

Cyberbullying is the use of cell phones, instant messaging, e-mail, chat rooms or social networking sites such as Facebook and Twitter to harass, threaten or intimidate someone.

Cyberbullying is often done by children, who have increasingly early access to these technologies.

No it was not addressed to you.