It's a very simple concept that is self evident. The slower the money turns over, and the longer it gets churned, the more of it the site takes in rake. The quicker the money changes hands, the less opportunity the site has to make rake. And the site wants that same money in the pot over and over in small amounts that don't cap, not all-in at once. And it's even worse if busted players drop out or play less. Even junkit knows this.

Read this post several times, until you understand the points being made:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=83883

I did not post it with the expectation he will ever understand it. He can read it hundreds or thousands of times and he would not understand it, and he would then follow up with a non sequitur thought or concern that popped in his mind that likely contradicts another one he made before. He cannot change and he certainly cannot learn, so posting with that goal is pointless, but it is fun to showcase his unique gene pool at times.

He will not understand any of this post.

All the best,

Limit creates more money for the poker room cuz the games are more even......jmmmm.....do online site rig games to make them more even.

Half the best

They certainly change structures and benefit programs to help equalize the playing field, that is common knowledge (something you avoid). Has nothing to do with rigging games (in the context you and other riggies use the term, not that you understand the word context), and the fact they make all of these macro game changes (a term you will not understand) also proves that they do not need to do the micro individualized rigs people like you believe in that would represent actual risk to the site and not generate any income. You will of course not understand any of this post and will reply accordingly, just as you did with this last post.

All the best.

Monteroy’s condescension game is unlike any I’ve ever seen in this forum. It’s actually...well...beautiful??

I'm tempted to call it online bullying.

You can call it whatever you like, if that makes you feel better, but the irony is one thing that person has going for him is that he is very comfortable in his skin, and as such he cannot be "bullied" in a conventional sense, so what you may misinterpret as bullying is actually just acknowledging what I know I am dealing with when I post to him, that being a person who rarely understands other posts, and a person that is incapable of change or learning.

That is his nature, one he is comfortable with, and one I work with it in my posts toward him, while others continue to try (in vain) to work against his nature by using logic and explaining things over and over in an attempt to get him to understand something. Nearly every thread he started, in a variety of forums here over the years, is a mess (and often locked) because people assume they can speak logically to him, when that never works. Many eventually assume incorrectly that he is a troll, because his behavior makes no sense by conventional definitions.

Still, you and others are welcome to be a better, non-bullying people by patiently working with, nurturing, and educating him. Best of luck with that, and if you do that you will have to explain why, because he will not understand any of this post, and will reply with something along the lines of asking if the sites rig it to bully people.

Saw quads lose to a royal flush today

A Royal Flush is a higher ranked hand, that is why it won.

This hand strength chart may help you in future when you get confused about a result.

http://www.wsop.com/poker-hands/


All the best.

Badabing!

All the best,

Thank you for the Info. Do some work and tell me how often it should happen. We shall wait for the answer.

Every time a person has a Royal Flush they will beat an opponent who has quads. Again, consult the hand strength chart as needed, and understand that in standard Holdem Poker that the stronger hand at showdown always wins.

There are other variants such as hi/lo games where both high and a low hand can win a portion of the pot, and certain games like Razz where low hands always win, so be sure you know what you are playing, and how the hand strengths work, and that should help you in future when you get confused by a hand. You can also ask these questions in the Beginners forum as needed if you continue to be confused by the basics of the game.

All the best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPTHNr8s76w

Me too. I'm suing the WSOP.

Later edit:

I'm 100% positive that at this year's WSOP there was at least one other Quads vs Royal Flush hand. Remember watching the updates on poker news. I think it was in the Main but I might be wrong. The hand did happen, though.

Rigged!

Definitely. I think that the WSOP dealers are trained by the Pokerstars programmers.

I don't know how the programmers manage to implement the "rigged software algorithm" into a human's hand shuffling movements but then again, Pokerstars is known for having strong ties with Hogwarts.

https://issuu.com/ionutapahideanu/do...r_-_rigged_or_

Does this have any merit to it ?

The study has about 190 pages, it's well structured and explained. I'm not the best math/stats guy so I didn't understand everything that was said.

Anyway, the guy says that he analyzed 55k hands that he played on Stars in a period of approximately two months. ( sample size is small AFAIK )

He basically states that his study concludes the following:

-coolers happen at a much higher rate than normal

-Stars levels the playing field by having underdogs win more than usual

-that every tenth hand is manipulated

If an able maths/stats guy/girl could take a quick glance over it and give his/her opinion, it would be much appreciated.

Always lol at the sample size unless it probes that it's not rigged

Can we get the Title changed to.. "The Great Online Poker Is Rigged Debate" ??

Cause live poker aint rigged

Ty in advance

#BoboFett2017

If it wasn't already in the Internet Poker forum, that might be needed.

lol. Any time some dip**** with a tiny sample comes up with something as easy to catch as this, you can dismiss their drivel.

You think this is like a deep statement or something, but that's how math works silly.

There are riggies ITT that have argued otherwise.

Yeah, I guess it's likely that he did something that was over his statistics pay grade. You've got to applaud him though. It's more than 99.99% of the people screaming rigged ever do.

Applaud him!!? Someone who cant grasp the most basic of concepts that creating large pots does not create more rake, or the fact that 55k hands is rather meaningless, should not be wasting their time and effort writing such nonsense.

6/10 for presentation
0/10 for any value

Well, he at least put in some effort to show some numbers. I don't know who he is and don't know if he would change his opinion if somebody explained to him why large pots do not create bigger rake.

I suspect there's a larger chance that people like him can be reasoned with logic and rational conversation than with people like Jungmit who just randomly spew things without even presenting any bit of work/research ( be it wrong as it may ) and refuse to understand or even try to contemplate why he's wrong. This is the reason for which I meant he should be applauded.

If the majority of riggies were like this guy, this kind of threads wouldn't exist. But I have to admit the guilt of sometimes considering the content of these kind of threads amusing

A potato could be better reasoned with, with logic and rational conversation, than that Jungmit muppet.