Don't you know that the mind can see and recall patterns way better than a stupid computer.

That part of the riggie creed goes way back.

It will not show up in the stats, that's why you love this story.
It is impossible to show up in HHs. It is clearly rigged in other ways.
For example when you try to move in stakes you will be crushed, you get worst hands and when you finally get a decent hand it will not hold, or get aces and everybody folds to you.
Easy peasy, stats look fine your money is gone. Same for everybody, not a personalized rig. You win up to a point.
Jugmit is on to something, there always comes a winning streak after a long losing one but that is also up to a point. You can't exploit it. For example the software will allow you to triple your bankroll and again you are punished. Can't exploit that either, you will say triple your br and withdraw. Okay, but then you will pay back everything anyway, you ll lose what is left and you will have to deposit again. The software registers everything about the players and it creates situations in which rake is maximized without altering the stats too much.
There is always room for variance after all.
Clear until now?
There will never be employees coming to tell you about a rig. Those who know about it are paid so they are guilty also, it would be dumb to throw away a money printing machine and go to jail.
Sometimes I fool around with the roulette for $0,10 with Martingale. I know pretty much everything about the roulette but most of the times at a BM casino I pull this trick to multiply my BR for the night until it starts moving against me. At Pokerstars it's almost impossible, if you bet on Red it will come Black and Zero 17 times. If you bet Black-Red it will come Red-Black endlessly until you are broke.
Are they using same fantasy mirrors for roulette Rng? so you want to tell me that if 15k players want to play roulette for play money, Pokerstars shoot beams for light through the mirror for each spin, for each hand of play money and real money and black-jack...pfff gtfo
Bottom line, poker is rigged and you can't prove with HHs.
The only thing you can do is deposit and lose money no matter what your skill level is.
Have a great weekend everyone, get out of this cancerous system and go play some real poker, tip a nice dealer and have peace of mind that you get a truly random deal.

Really poorly disguised troll, this is just an utter fail.

MONTROLLING

In 70 hands u think it's common to see a full house 11% of the time? 8 full houses in 70 hands? I find that hard to imagine in a love game.

Pick up a deck of cards. Deal a full ring table or a 6-max, whatever you like face up. Then deal the board. Tell me how many "weird" **** you will see.

Yes bit all 10 people will not be in every hand. He said on average there was 3 people in flop and they made thst many big hands? Seems unlikely to me

And how do you know that in the other hands that there weren't full houses at showdown, if any other player that folded had acted differently that he or she wouldn't have made a full house ? Or quads ? Or royal flushes ?

You need to take every player into consideration because you cannot know what the player will do with his hand. For example, some people will call a raise in the BB or on the BTN with 6 3, 8 5, 7 4 etc. ( go lower stakes and you will see people calling 4x 5x raises in any position with that junk ). It's only natural and expected that those hands will suck out on A K, A Q etc. and other big hands. If they do suck out more often than expected why doesn't it show on an analysis ? It would be trivially easy to detect.

If only there was a way of finding out. It starts with an m...? m...? ma? Math? Oh wait, you don't believe in that.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...twork-1613261/

I don't know exactly what that thread is supposed to mean. Scrolled through it a bit, seen some people asking about the network and one idiot that claimed that it was rigged because he lost a few hands that was quickly pinned down to earth by the other posters.

I also see that you haven't posted in this thread for 6 years.

Welcome back to life!

Edit: Read some more. Saw concerns about superusers. What does this have to do with the RNG ?

lol 1 person huh,learn to read

welcome back to life???? you have over 100 posts in this thread just on this 1 account of yours in this thread,i say get a life

the select players know the runout or can rig the runout

You misread.

I have only one account.

What "select" players ? ( I think you mean selected )

If so, you are talking about superusers. This is a thread about the rigging of the RNG.

And just out of curiosity how would a superuser rig the runout ? Voodoo ? Blood magic?

Read what he wrote. They didn't take all folded hands and then say how often these hands were made. They took all hands of players who played the hands. The folded hands were not counted. So if u do the same thing live I am saying u won't see such big hands.

How do you know ? How do you know that if I decide to call my 6 2 offsuit from MP facing an UTG raise and a call and flop a boat ?

Also, how do you explain the fact that the thing that you are implying don't come up in analysis ? It's pretty straightforward isn't it ? You say fullhouses or big hands come up too often, why don't the stats show this ? Also, don't you think it would be a pretty stupid rig ? I mean it would be detected in 1-2 weeks given a big enough database.

How would it be detected? Tell me how often if 3 people see a flop a full house should be made by river? Now tell me how often I 4 people see a flop then 1 folds, now tell me how of ten if all 4 stay to river, now tell me if 5 people see a flop 1 folds on flop 1 folds on turn how often it should happen. What if 5 see flop and 2 fold on flop? See.......u can never have these stats

How convenient, shut me down immediately.
Sure, I will believe you are not a shill and employee of 2+2.
You are volunteering, yeah right.

Nobody cares what you think.

You know nothing, Johnnysnow.

As for Jungmit, can anyone good at maths/stats answer him ?

How out of control is your ego that you immediately jump to the conclusion that someone must be paid to disagree with you? Why? You can sit here and write out a detailed explanation simple enough for a child to understand and jungmit will still be hung up on some dumb little minor detail.

I've fallen for that a few times when I was bored at work and felt like trying to actually explain something only to have him reply with basically "yeah but this other thing is bad". The dude basically hops into this thread when he has a ****ty day to ***** and doesn't actually want to discuss anything.

Obviously the probability of each of these scenarios can be calculated, and the frequency of occurence can be counted and compared. Simple scripts in most hand tracking software can do this.

Monteroy,

Have you ever watched Bar Rescue or Kitchen Nightmares?


I would like to start a webseries with you as host just like Jon Taffer/Gordon Ramsay except we take losing regs who think the world is against them and they are gods gift to poker (riggies especially) and show them the errors of their ways. the word "delusional" comes to mind as your catchphrase!

I'm only half joking about this. If the market were there, we'd have a show. No lack of clients

OR u can take losing winners( aka rakeback players) and do a show with them? Would be much more fun I beleive. MONTROLLING