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08-10-2016 , 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Obvious Shill Alt
Take a look at this eighth-grade test from 1912. ****'s not playing around.
Here's another take on the same test.
http://endoftheamericandream.com/arc...ica-has-become

And the dumbing down of high school reading lists vs 100 years ago:
http://www.better-ed.org/blog/middle...s-ago-vs-today

And here's an 8th grade test from 1895 that most high school graduates couldn't pass today:
http://www.indiana.edu/~p1013447/dic...hgradeexam.htm

and another review of it
https://martinkeerns.wordpress.com/2...tury-ago-that/

Even when I went to high school, much less than 100 years ago, it was better than today. We continue to get worse at educating our children and the U.S. is behind most other industrialized countries in the quality of our public education.

/derail
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08-10-2016 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
Oh I hurt the fossil's feelings. Don't worry, people in general will be totally fine.
Does not hurt my feelings. U can say anything u want. Words will not effect me. It's impossible .

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Originally Posted by NewOldGuy
LOL, phones and computers don't make people smarter. Inate human intelligence hasn't changed in a few thousand years. Some studies even show a decline. And if you want to go by education level compared to 1900 (your example) I guarantee you the average U.S. high school graduate was better educated in 1900 than today in basics like language and math and history and literature. You are a fool.
That is my point . I cave man time there were the same amount of smart Cavemen as a percentage and and most of them were dumb compared to the smart cave men. Over all the average person now is smarter then a caveman tho

Last edited by Mike Haven; 08-10-2016 at 03:37 PM. Reason: 2 posts merged
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08-10-2016 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by NewOldGuy
Here's another take on the same test.
http://endoftheamericandream.com/arc...ica-has-become

And the dumbing down of high school reading lists vs 100 years ago:
http://www.better-ed.org/blog/middle...s-ago-vs-today

And here's an 8th grade test from 1895 that most high school graduates couldn't pass today:
http://www.indiana.edu/~p1013447/dic...hgradeexam.htm

and another review of it
https://martinkeerns.wordpress.com/2...tury-ago-that/

Even when I went to high school, much less than 100 years ago, it was better than today. We continue to get worse at educating our children and the U.S. is behind most other industrialized countries in the quality of our public education.

/derail
/reopen

And yet all those ancient geniuses thought it was real smart to drag us through two world wars and bankrupt the western world hegemony. Yup, gotta praise that olde education there, really drilling home what really matters...

So I guess modern kids can't spell antidisestablishmentarianism nor describe what it means nor what its grammatical rules are and nor can they tell you where Lake Boring is, but at least they're not lying face down in a pile of mud bleeding from every artery by the million because some overly educated prig thought he had to save face
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08-10-2016 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingbatty
So I guess modern kids can't spell antidisestablishmentarianism nor describe what it means nor what its grammatical rules are and nor can they tell you where Lake Boring is, but at least they're not lying face down in a pile of mud bleeding from every artery by the million because some overly educated prig thought he had to save face
Not sure how this debate got even more pointless, but when in RiggieRome...

Decades ago Isis was a kids show. Things always change (except for riggies being paranoid). Sometimes the change is for the better, sometimes for the worse...

All the best.
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08-10-2016 , 07:01 PM
From what I see, those tests are largely things which aren't taught any more because they're mostly useless. Sure, you could say 'today's high school graduate wouldn't pass a high school exam from 1916' and that might be true, but so would the opposite. Different, not uneven curricula.
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08-13-2016 , 08:26 AM
There is again suspicion that Google search results are rigged. This time in favour of Clinton. Years it has been talked that Google rigs against its competition and in favour of its adds sites. Google's comment is similar to what is said about the bad business of rigging poker. And all in all, it looks the same and it also hasn't been proven as far as I saw.
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08-18-2016 , 03:28 PM
Wow, poker has not been rigged for 5 days now! Seriously that must be a record.
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08-18-2016 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by G2thV
Wow, poker has not been rigged for 5 days now! Seriously that must be a record.
All the rigging talent has been hired by Clinton.
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08-18-2016 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by restorativejustice
All the rigging talent has been hired by Clinton.
You spelled Trump wrong.
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08-18-2016 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by G2thV
Wow, poker has not been rigged for 5 days now! Seriously that must be a record.
It's actually been 8 days since a riggie was spotted ITT.

The coverup is working exactly as pl...I mean, uh...
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08-18-2016 , 04:19 PM
Has anyone gotten their salaries yet for posting?
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08-18-2016 , 11:38 PM
Riggies have migrated to a site where they can post in peace and the anti-riggie shills are nice to them.

Monteroy applied as a shill on the new site but they only pay one dollar per post.
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08-19-2016 , 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by NewOldGuy
Here's another take on the same test.
http://endoftheamericandream.com/arc...ica-has-become

And the dumbing down of high school reading lists vs 100 years ago:
http://www.better-ed.org/blog/middle...s-ago-vs-today

And here's an 8th grade test from 1895 that most high school graduates couldn't pass today:
http://www.indiana.edu/~p1013447/dic...hgradeexam.htm

and another review of it
https://martinkeerns.wordpress.com/2...tury-ago-that/

Even when I went to high school, much less than 100 years ago, it was better than today. We continue to get worse at educating our children and the U.S. is behind most other industrialized countries in the quality of our public education.

/derail
that 8th grade test is ridiculous.

& I agree. "students, please open up your calculator app on your iPads.. no cheating"
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08-19-2016 , 05:57 PM
OK guys you wanna hear the truth? Online Poker is NOT rigged.Truth is poker is a tough game and online poker a tougher one and in our days many more people know how to play it so luck plays a significantly bigger role.So each monkey-brain donk-fish you encounter at the tables and beats you is what I call ''its his day today'' What you need to do is wait patiently for YOUR day to come.
Play your best poker everyday and with a lot of luck maybe one day you will cash big or maybe not.
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08-19-2016 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mr XXX
OK guys you wanna hear the truth? Online Poker is NOT rigged.Truth is poker is a tough game and online poker a tougher one and in our days many more people know how to play it so luck plays a significantly bigger role.So each monkey-brain donk-fish you encounter at the tables and beats you is what I call ''its his day today'' What you need to do is wait patiently for YOUR day to come.
Play your best poker everyday and with a lot of luck maybe one day you will cash big or maybe not.
Would u say the same applies to live games? People are obviously better there also. So it's your day or not? Just wondering what u think about the luck thing live.
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08-19-2016 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
Would u say the same applies to live games? People are obviously better there also. So it's your day or not? Just wondering what u think about the luck thing live.
In general I think you will see more higher-variance higher-risk aggressive playing style online. Which makes luck a bigger factor. Of course over time skill still wins out but yes variance can be higher online. Particularly at the low stakes which aren't even available live.
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08-20-2016 , 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
Would u say the same applies to live games? People are obviously better there also. So it's your day or not? Just wondering what u think about the luck thing live.
yes these live games are getting too darn tough :/
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08-20-2016 , 08:36 AM
2/5 on stars
Starting stack 850ish, built up from 300

I click "sit out next hand"

Get dealt 8-10 suited

Button raise to 15, I call 10
flop- 8 10 10

I check, he bets 35ish
turn- 5
I check, he bets 60ish
Reraise to 160

He snap shoves for 1.2k

I call

River, 5

Villan shows 5 5


Cant say its rigged or not...but when time and time again you see beats (both for and against) like this, hitting everones cards, .2%'s getting there by river....just feels off

But hey its math...it could always happen. right?
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08-20-2016 , 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
yes these live games are getting too darn tough :/
Where are these tough games u speak of?
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08-20-2016 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by xmoowoomx
2/5 on stars
Starting stack 850ish, built up from 300

I click "sit out next hand"

Get dealt 8-10 suited

Button raise to 15, I call 10
You're supposed to sit out UTG, not in the BB.
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08-20-2016 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by NewOldGuy
In general I think you will see more higher-variance higher-risk aggressive playing style online. Which makes luck a bigger factor. Of course over time skill still wins out but yes variance can be higher online. Particularly at the low stakes which aren't even available live.
That and ofcourse live play you have the person right beside you, which is a big thing. Pokerstars and other online platforms are for pros really, who have the bankroll and play the high stake games. But, i think even on a live tournament, if you put in 6000 or more players and a very low buy-in, you will get the same big variance like online tournaments.
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08-21-2016 , 07:10 PM
I just checked out ACR again and it still full of bots imo. Same mechanical styles. Until they clean this stuff up all the fish are gonna get destroyed and its ruining online poker. Its to bad online poker is dead and all these great pros are teaching poker just trying to make a living out of it some how cause they can't beat the online games anymore. Ivey, Polk, Galfond, etc. Even Polk admitted hes down 2 million over the last year. Its sad he just plays micros on twitch now. I wonder how much of that money he was cheated out of. Ivey down 9 million. Galfond has been even over the last 5 years. These guys are to good to be losing like this. Dwan quit online... I think Isildur might be winning and jungleman. Not sure who else crushes anymore. When guys that good are losing its time to debating the sites are rigged.

Then i listen to a radio show and Shawn Deeb said some russians were selling a device for 50k that give them a edge on the rng. So i guess his friends bought it and i guess it works. If people can hack bitcoin they can hack these costa rican rngs. It is literally hard to find a fair game anymore even in live games when money is involved. You just don't know if your being scammed or if its a fair game anymore.
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08-21-2016 , 07:48 PM
there are a ton of Portugese players, maybe bots???
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08-21-2016 , 07:57 PM
His point is that Portugal, using bots and Russian RnG tech, has taken millions from the top names in poker over the years. It gets even worse

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Originally Posted by cashmoney111
I just played on play money on acr i click the tab and played on it at 5/10 and they are telling me that it was real money. And they scammed me out of 400 dollars. I was just setting up stack and tile to grind 10nl on the beast. They said the ywere getting rid of bots and fixing the site so i figured i would come back. And this is what I come to. I get scammed out of 400 dollars. So i played play money and they took my money out of my account. I am completely done with online poker.

as apparently they also have found a way to get him to sit at the wrong tables when he is trying to play with play money. This shows how far the bots have advanced, as mind control is now part of their programming, so best to beware.

All the best.
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