I should have been more clear in my post.

I wasn't referring to you or anyone else who engages in normal conversation with him. It is the people who are antagonizing him with the intention of getting him to say more ridiculous and irrational things for entertainment (and you know who you are).

You personally are always trying to answer his questions or trying to clarify what he meant. As far as I can tell you have never been a jerk. However, you have been going back and forth with him for a year on some of the same issues and I'm not sure why you waste your time doing so, but that is far from not being a good person - so I am sorry if you thought I referring to you.

Personally, I gave up like 6 months ago. I realized I was wasting hours every week for no reason and wasn't making even the slightest bit of progress. If you try to correct his thinking or explain why he is (or is probably) wrong he just stream rolls right over it and continues or instantly switches the subject.

The point I made in the post I deleted was that we can't even get him to agree on simple definitions of English words or the very basics of online poker (for example, he clearly doesn't understand what a HUD is/does/does-not-do) so you can't debate someone about a complicated subject when the words have different meanings to him.

Hey gemaco good to see u.
I don't type well as u may know. These phones are very frustrating with autocorrect an just a pain.
1. I do know what a hud is and what it does.it keeptrackof numbers like VPIP etc during play i also know there are other parts to the program like databases and graphs and reports etc.
2. I loose patience typing all the replies so most I don't answer cuz it's tedious and I just don't care about the stupid ones.
3. Maybe I don't express myself as clearly as I could on here, and when new points are brought up I have to reconsider what I actually wrote.
4. I am not going to just lay a bet out there let a person dictate the parameters and except those terms. And when I don't they claim I backed out. Obv it looks this way to people who can't and won't do take time to ask. Their main objective is to stir the pot.
5. We may differ on some points and that is fine.....like bovada for example......but it does not mean u are right and I am wrong. I thjnk bovada is bad for poker, this is my opinion. If u don't agree then cool, welcome to america. We don't have to agree.
6 listening to the interview with Daniel negreanu about the pokerstars changes and he mentions they changed the vip stuff cuz they were paying out more money in sne bonus stuff then brining in in deposits which validates my point about deposits vs withdrawals being most important. All sites care about this ,but until the 50th thread someone finally says I am pointing out the obv after 10 people disagree with me.
7. I am not as crazy as u all think. I have been a winning player onljne site 2003. I never had a year where I lost money in poker. Now I am not saying I won millions I am just saying I am a winning player. I have done lots of study on poker site economics, RNGs and gaming commission and gaming certificates. What I report is what I have discovered and u can beleive it or not. I have talked to gaming associates, the kanauwakee tribe, and some others and have received the info I have. .....which of course varies everytime I speak to a new person.......story for another day.
8. Some stuff I post is for fun like guessing the cards, other stuff I am dead serious about like playing monty heads up, counting the flushes that hit.....rusty never trusted me to get the numbers so the bet never went. On a side note he would have lost that bet.bhe said 37% of flushes hit. Yes for ok be person. If u play 6 handed u will see way more then 50% total hit at a 6 player game......slight angle that rusty never considered I guesss.
9. Do u realise what a pain in my arse it was to type this?????

I think that it's statements like, "...way more then 50% total [flushes] hit at a 6 player game..." that is causing people to question how much you know about the game.

Count. Play a 6 max game and see how often a flush hit on a 4 flush board. With 6 guys at the table it's gonna be over 5o%. If it's just a heads up table it's gonna obv be less

I play almost exclusively 6max games. Over 50% of flushes hitting is something I could not possibly miss.

If you truly enjoy participating in this thread than I guess I have no right to criticize others for engaging you. I should of probably just stayed out of this thread.

I am not saying u will hit 50%, I am saying any flush will come in at 50% or more. 6 people if 3 see a flop and 2 spades hit it more likely someone has a flush draw so if 1 Person has a flush draw on 75% of all flush flops and hits it 37% of the time u figure it out. And we know low limit players play just about any 2 suited cards so it may even be higher

I never critised anyone. Monty insults my character so he deserves what he gets. Everyone has a right to their opinions. But it's obv when someone is just trying to add gas to the fire and they don't deserve a reply.
But u are all free to say what u want just as I am.
It like u always say I am wrong bout bovada. Well in your mind I am in my mind I am not. I think its a site on a money grab cuz they are in usa due to legislation. No rake back no point to cash option no vip. Anonymous tables and just a bad site who may or may not be rigged. This is my opinion, it does not make me wrong .u are saying u tried to straighten me out? ?? Why do I need straightening cuz u like bovada? Fine I don't like it. The site is a joke and bad for poker in my opinion. Sorry u disagree

If there is a 75% chance that someone has a FD on the flop and the flush has a 37% chance of completing by the river (and there is no folding between the flop and the river), then there is a 27.75% chance that on the river someone will have made a flush.

Even if someone has a flushdraw on every single flop the odds of hitting that flush are still never over 50%. When you quote a 37% hit rate for flushes, you are already assuming that a player has a flush draw.

And if 2 or more players happen to have the same suits for a flush draw, the odds of either one of them actually hitting it goes down.

The moral superiority twist you did with your previous post is a bit out of place in a conspiracy thread like this, akin to if you questioned the purity of professional wrestling.

The paranoid riggies/trolls for the most part like the attention they get, and they are always entitled to their beliefs, though if someone does lie constantly I will be pretty blunt in pointing that out, as well as when they start to fade in terms of entertainment value. Riggies enjoy shill attention and shills like entertaining riggies, even though all riggies have an expiration date. Welcome to threads like this, and if you think this is bad, go try to post some behavioral feedback in 9/11 threads and see how both sides appreciate it .

You were right in that this type of thread is not really for you, so quit all forms of riggie threads.

All the best.

the problem people have with you is that you cant grasp the simplest of concepts and continue to spout nonsense.

for example, in your flush bet thread, you were told why counting just flushes at showdowns would manipulate the data. people explained to you multiple times why you can only include all in hands on the flop.

however, and probably still to this day, you dont understand why your logic is flawed.

the above example is only scratching the surface why people dont and wont take you seriously.

This is why the flush will hit more then 37% of the time. I was willing to go to a play chip table and have all players who flop flush draws go all in and we would manually keep track cuz we would see all turns and rivers.

i got merged today
KK vs AA
flops 3AA
turn K
riverK

KKKKa loses to AAAAk

no sng
not cash game

You must have sat at that play table for weeks since that is the only way you could have gotten a large enough sample size.

And it was explained to you in that thread, multiple times, nobody has the time or wants to sit through play money hands.

Everything you do is an attempt at finding the most inefficient method

So because no one wants to do it means it does not happen. Again I am not about to get into this with you. U guys are so combative. Why do u feel the need to convert everyone to think like u think. Be creative, imaginative be different. The whole world is not going to beleive everything u do and it does not make them wrong if they don't agree with you.

No worries at all - I honestly was thinking more along the lines that you were painting a lot of people with the same brush that didn't deserve it, but obviously that wasn't the intention.

Yeah, and that goes for a number of other riggies, he's just the latest example, albeit one of the worst/most persistent we've had. I sometimes question why I bother, and have many times gone on pretty much a hiatus from this thread, and/or decided not to engage a particular poster any more, so your points definitely aren't falling on deaf ears.

No one is being combative.

The only time anybody cared about your bovada flush experiment is when you told everyone you would bet on it. Why you think sitting at a play money table and idling passing time, hours on end, is a form of imagination and creativity only you can answer. Especially when you can get hands in minutes for a few dollars.

Just because you suggested that as a method of collecting data doesnt make you creative. It only creates the perception that you vastly overrate your intelligence and abilities.

Its been a year since you brought up that experiment. Have you gathered the sufficient amount of hands?

My only problem with you was that you (1) repeatedly claimed Bovada was "rigged" without proving any proof. (2) You lied about why you got banned from Bovada. You kept telling people it was because you were a winning player when we both know that is not true (meaning the reason you got banned, I have no idea if you are or are not a winning player but I take you at your word that you are).

Other then those two points I have absolutely no problem with you. I personally don't believe Bovada is bad for online poker, but I can totally see the other side of the argument and its a very valid opinion. Saying it is rigged however is not a valid opinion because its an accusation not based on any evidence.

I completely agree and the only reason I posted in this thread was because I had history with Jungmit. I have absolutely no desire to debate whether online poker is rigged or not.

I lied? They told me the closed my account cuz I called them too much? Really? What is the max number of calls a player is allowed to make? Guess I went over it. Lol. U think that was the real reason?

I can't imagine that you'd be the kind of guy that would call them too much.

I admit I called alot, but that is a reason to close an account? Anyone else in the history of the world have their account closed because of calling too much? Hilarious. Obv there has to be some other reason.
Look I dug deep into bovada, gaming associates and kanawaukee. I was actually the person that told bovada that gaming associates no longer did business with them even tho they told me gaming associates regularly audits their site. For 6 months I told them they were wrong cuz I had been in touch with GA. Now of course it's Itech labs.u tell me did i dig to deep? Has to be a reason they don't want me playjng there.

My recommendation is to do a charge back to your credit card. Yeah, video your play.....especially Casino stuff...I've seen mathematically impossible stuff...like flipping a coin and getting heads 100 times in a row..With Credit card chargeback they will have to refund all your money. If not fair you have justification right there. They claim high percent payoff, etc. you know...Vegas does not give your 100% bonuses! They give you that because its rigged. You just won't be able to play any online poker/casino anywhere until it's legal in USA. Once it's legal in USA, it won't be such a scam. I don't know anyone who is "UP" on any online offshore site. Unless you go sportsbook only which they can't fix. The poker (they sit their employees ($5 per hour) at tables and can see your cards) or Casino (algorithm is against you and knows your tendency). You'll never win. So just do it for fun...deposit $50...plays $1 or less. Just my advice. But it's a fact. All rigged. Yeah the movie was made for a reason. But I know folks there and its true. Especially Bovado and America Cardroom or whatever they disguise their site as.