These back and forths usually last a day at most. Generally guys like him eventually say they just do not care or they pretend that the bet never existed, or they go full riggie by saying if we do it on Stars for instance that Stars will be in on it, thus proving it is rigged.


He does not have the money, and he certainly will never agree to proper testing that he has virtually no chance of winning due to luck.

I just hope they come up with amusing ways to avoid the prop bet, but so far he has been pretty mundane in his evasion tactics, but one never knows!

If Monteroy's bet amount is too high, and that's why you're trying to get out of this bet, I can do it for less. You'd have to make your conditions easier to understand.

Well, it isn't from your intelligence or your ability to communicate in english.

Flop 942 I call 356 for example. Why are u hung up on my hand? I don't need cards to do this. My hand is not relevant

ok, you call 356 - does that mean you are just predicting just the turn card or are you predicting a card that will come on either the turn or the river?

Here are a few scenarios after you call 356:


1) Turn 3 river K - I assume you win

2) Turn K river 3 - is this a win or loss for you?

3)Turn 3 river 5 - does getting both cards right count extra?

4) Turn A river 4 - I assume this is a loss for you


All the best.

jungmit, I've always wondered...what is your first language?

Are u saying I don't have 10k? U may want to rethinks this. Trust me I got plenty to cover your 10k. We would have to agree on the way I want it done. Not doing skype or any such technology thing

fyp, good luck!

It's quite funny to see a guy moving from " I can do this easily" to "I guess three cards and hope it will be one of them"

What about calling only one card? Why 3?

This bet is totally going to happen

If jungmit is a troll account then I tip my proverbial cap to the genius who controls it. I'm inclined to believe he's a real human, which is absolutely brilliant and hilarious in a completely different way.

Lots of real people are just like him. If it is a troll its a solid one, but again - lots of people are just like him anyway


He is never going to let it actually happen. These things pop up once in a while and he is using very standard evasion methods. If he ever answers my specific questions on his conditions then he will find problems with testing it properly (he already has hinted he wants no technology involved). He will be just like all the others who claimed they can predict cards - he will never do it. Well, ok, one riggie did actually tried, and of course failed, but I seem to recall he was pretty funny about it (there was no money involved).



You questioned whether I had it so I sat on Stars with it to prove it. I don't trust you. People like you lie all the time.

You are saying we have to agree on the way you want it done. You dont have to be in a skype group, you can certainly say your predictions at the actual table as an observer, but it obviously has to be done in a way that everyone can see. If you are going to suggest you will do the study yourself and come back with your records as you wrote them on a piece of paper - that will obviously not work.

I realize you hate technology and are afraid of it, but to test your super power with regard to online poker it will actually have to be done with online poker. You know - poker that is played at an online poker room.

Anyway, you still have not confirmed my situations above as to what is a success and a failure on your predictions, after you do that I will propose how we test it, and I will even share with you the math to show that the odds of you predicting it right by luck will be along the lines of winning Powerball a few times in a row, so it will be a pure test of your innate prediction abilities, which is exactly what you want!

Here is the list of possibilities that you ignored the first time.


ok, you call 356 - does that mean you are just predicting just the turn card or are you predicting a card that will come on either the turn or the river?

Here are a few scenarios after you call 356

1) Turn 3 river K - I assume you win

2) Turn K river 3 - is this a win or loss for you?

3)Turn 3 river 5 - does getting both cards right count extra?

4) Turn A river 4 - I assume this is a loss for you


All the best.

From the beginning I said I will be calligraphy range of cards. Name very said I will.be calling the exact card

English. Typing is my 2nd tho.

C-

It goes way, way beyond typing. You can't be bothered to proofread your posts, or read carefully what you're responding to, and as a result, your communication skills are absolutely atrocious.

If that's the way you want to continue doing things, so be it, but then don't be surprised when people don't understand what you meant.

The current exchange about the propbet that will of course never make it off the ground is a good example of this. Several hours and numerous posts later, it's still not clear exactly what you're saying you can do, because you don't thoroughly read questions, and you can't be bothered to make an effort to answer coherently.

No one has any issues with your typing. You form sentences and thoughts like a drunken monkey. Even if you had something relevant or truthful to say, I'm not sure how you would expect anyone to take you seriously in a debate when people that observe your posts legitimately think you might have been raised in a non-English speaking section of Zimbabwe.

if i recall, you said you were fortunate to retire early from your profession?

just taking a shot in the dark here, but blue collar job and workers compensation for long-term disability?

I totally understand your points. You seem like a smart guy so this challenge will make you filthy rich. Can't wait



Everything is much clearer now. Why didn't I think of this. He's just a bored ****** with too much time.

It's goes that I can't type and I type even worse on the phone which has so many auto corrects. Just not worried about being too careful with typing. It's awesome simple as that,cuz I really did earn high makes in school for spelling

Wrong. Good try tho. Worked jnvestments and real estste. Had my secretary for typing and no options for being out hurt or sick. U really have no idea how hard I worked to get what I have. I came from nothing and retired at a young age. I have been fortunate enough to be able to help family that needs help. U can agree or disagree with the whole rigged thing but there is no need to attack my character.

Nobody is attacking you because they disagree with your position on the whole rigged thing. They are (rightfully) attacking you because you make claims and then weasel your way out whenever someone is trying to pinpoint the validity of them which can easily be done in ways suggested.

Let me put it this way. You can just sit there and call cards and if you do that above statistical expectancy you win a buttload of money. And even if you don't care about the money, do it to actually support your claims which would benefit your character.

The fact of the matter is that you don't do anything that results in the actual proof of your claims. You repel or ignore any suggestions that could actually lead to a definitive answer. The fact of the matter is you have such a weak character or are just plain ignorant. If you just shut your piehole nobody would attack you for disagreeing. It's the way in which you keep insisting and then refusing to provide any evidence.

You're a delusional, sad, pathetic and manipulative person without any sort of character whatsoever.

Yes I do win a butt load of money.
Tell me exactly what I ever backed out of. I challenged people head up but not hold em no one ever excepts. Then monty said I will play u oknpokerstars. I live in usa how can it be done? I tell him I am banned from bovada. Ok goes what there are other sites in usa. I am still more then willing to play him heads up plo. Ball is in his court. He will answer back and make some excuse about the biggest usa facing site and I can't play. YES I am not allowed to lay there. Call bovada and get me re in stated and I would be more then happy to play there, and at the same time we can do the calling out of cards. Kill 2 birds. Any else who wants you play plo heads up let me know. I am not going to play hold em heads up, and I never challenged any one in hold em. So explain to me exactly what I have backed out of.
U listen to monty and some of these other guys too much. He is great at manipulating stuff to make it look like he is right. Be careful. Read some of his posts. He says he would play but it's my fault I can't play on bovada. True but guess what there are other sites. He then goes quiet. Offer stands plo heads. Let's see if we can agree on terms monty. I am sure u will have a new excuse now

No, it's that you don't care to go fix any mistakes you make, and spelling isn't the issue. It's your (sometimes undecipherable) grammar that appears to likely be a mix of autocorrect and you not giving enough of a **** to try to post coherently, and then your terrible reading comprehension.

As an example, you're trying to tell us how you don't back out of bets, yet we're at something like 24 hours from your silly propbet post and you still haven't properly explained it.

I already told u
1. I will call out cards after the flop
2. I will do it on every flop
3. I will use a range of cards
What else would unlike to know?

How about going back and reading the really, really simple questions that Monteroy asked you and you skipped right over? Is it really that difficult?? I'm not even involved in this, so why should I have to spoon feed you? I mean he actually spelled out an example for you not once, but twice, just a dozen or so posts ago.

Not sure why this is getting complicated. I see a flop and I call out cards to hit. If won of them hits I get it right if not it's wrong. Really don't see any need to explain more then this. What exactly are u guys confused about?

you call T, J, Q

1. turn is a J, river is a 4. does this count as you correctly predicting the cards ?
2. turn is a 4, river is a J. does this count as you correctly predicting the cards ?
3. turn is a J, river is a Q. does this count as you correctly predicting the cards ?

Do all these predictions count the same ? eg for #3, does that count as two correct predictions etc ?

What do you claim that you will be able to do ? What % of the time do you claim that you will be able to predict correctly according to your definition of correct ?

Even for you these questions should be simple enough to understand.