I think he should post a screenshot of it so we can see how much energy he really wants to put into his latest troll effort.

Although we really should just be ignoring the troll, I suppose. But then I guess this might be a rather quiet thread if we all did that.

Yep. That's spoiled it

Been a long time reader of this thread never posted here
But when ever I am bored I read this thread for entertainment

The only reason I am posting today is to salute Donkeystars

I think he deserves a life time achievement award for the last few posts
No riggie has ever come so close to getting the so called proof and that too with a massive 15000 hands

PS: on a serious note dude see doctor you need some serious help

I'd be a bit careful if I were you Donkey. One thing to say you think it's fixed/rigged because of what you've seen. Quite another to say Poker stars have told you something in an official e-mail, meaning they are agreeing to rigging the game. Doubt they bother to read this dross of a thread, nor likely to bother doing anything about it either, but they could.

Still, funny trolling though, have to say. If a riggie like you had proof you'd post it or more likely trying to blackmail pokerstars. lol

Very fact you still playing on there is testament to fact you don't have proof, or your clinical insanity if you do have proof.

I stick to my /yawn /liar /troll /888 shill? comments.

This latest thing is a stale version of past riggies claims. Quite a few have claimed to be programmers or friends of programmers for Stars or Tilt, and one guy went nuts over a chat he had with a base level Party Poker customer service rep several years ago, because these companies always have the minimum wage people in on the rig. Then of course there is the "university study" that got tossed about for a bit, and for a non riggie twist there was a whole thing on Will Hill based again on a low level customer support chat.

Guy is a genuine donk trying the silly "obvious" troll routine now, which gets boring fast, so perhaps he is getting ready to use another posting account. Best part is, he genuinely cannot beat 2NL.

I do like the approach of taking dull bad beat whine posts and moving them to BBV for their own thread. Hopefully that will continue for those who use the thread as their whine blog.

Brilliant move, DS. By posting that you have "secret insider evidence" you can now justify never actually posting your complete hand history because that would identify you to pokerstars and then they would ban you for disclosing confidential information.

Well played.

They already know who he is through his email contact. That is unless he claims that he used a disposable new email and through that a top level Stars rep revealed all the information to that email address without knowing who he was at the time.

As I said, others have done this routine quite a bit better.

Guy still cannot beat 2NL, so that is satisfying. At the end of the year he can look at the hundreds or thousands of hours he played at a game he does not like for basically no financial gain. I encourage him to embrace his destiny.

Just what...? Higher VIP players get dealt AA more than lower VIP players? Awesome set of fiction this one, and so mind numbingly easy to spot that the biggest donkey in the world would be able to see that in their PT database.
Oh I agree, if you have AK/AQ or the like and get called you should hit the flop 100% of the time, rather than 33% of the time. It's a premium hand, you should get premium flops to match it at all times. Nag them for us will you, it's so annoying. And certainly when you then get outplayed from position etc.

Oh good, another one that is mind-blowingly easy to prove from data. So another they are bound to put into effect. I mean you wouldn't want a rig that is hard for any muppet to find.

Sigh, couldn't resist feeding the troll. Just because it's fun to do.

If you all want to remain blind and nieve that's up to you. Discussions are taking place with Stars management right at this moment concerning what they are going to do to put right this rig and ensure a fair and level playing field for all.

Get run out of BBV?

Post proof or shut up.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Show's finally over, well played.

Time for a new account IMO.

Guess your next step is saying your user name on Stars to claim the reward based on what you belief to be verifiable proof of a rigged RnG on Pokerstars. Once you post that I will be happy to post the email showing the appropriate transfer!

All the best.

Nah, he can put the final nail into the coffin before his new account by telling us how Stars have agreed to fix the rig and it will be all working as it's supposed to from now on. All without having to prove his rig theory or that he spoke to anyone other than the ones in his head.

Shame really Donkey. I don't mind riggie type people, as it is always a lack of knowledge of the game that leads to rig theory, but when they just resort to flat out lies it's a mark of the type of person they are that they just can't bear to be wrong. Because that would mean they aren't as good as they thought. And that is just sad.

I thought it unlikely that you could embarrass yourself more than you had done already. Well done for proving me wrong.

I have posted in this forum before and I do have strong doubts about online poker being rigged.

I have taken advice from the regular defenders in this forum and have been scouring through my hand history database.

As I have previously suggested I do not believe that the rig exists to single out particular players but is situational. In my previous examples I used the 6 max double up SnG and believe it is in the sites interest to end them quickly in the hope that the players will fire up a new one - hence more rake.

I have filtered my Hand history to show all the hands where I have voluntarily gone all in with 4 players left with the short stack and went to showdown.

Well I have only won 37.10% of these hands with my starting hand distribution approx. as follows:

A2-AA, K4-KK, All pocket pairs and some connectors with a very few other randoms.

Unfortunately I am using Poker Tracker 3 and have no idea how I can filter to find the callers range.

Saying that however you look at it there is either a pattern that my hand selection is losing to a weaker hand more often than it should or my strong hands are coming up in this situation against stronger hands more often than they should.

Any thoughts anyone?

Sites control the speed of a SnG openly by having turbo and super turbo SnGs with fast blinds.

Assuming 3 of the 4 stayed in on average, and assuming the callers have ATC, and inputting your exact range as 22+,A2s+,K4s+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,A2o+,K4o+,QJo

you have 35% equity.

If all 4 stayed in, you have much less than that. Or if just 3 stayed in selectively with a 50% range, you also have much less equity than that.

Stop whining. Your results show you were somewhat lucky.

Ah yes ... I didn't figure on the number of players in the pot .. doh!

That's why I read on here to be educated.

And that's not being sarcastic .. genuinely feel less upset now!

Back to the tables.

always after a good day , its unbeliveble the software at pokerstars, always the next day i have to be in 20 or more torney situations where im with 55 or 95% advantage , i loose no matter what or what volume i produce that day , runs tend to cluster but this is impossible , there must be a balance rig system at pokerstars , its always the same ******ed tendencie to help dumb players , how can it cluster so much to a point that in that day i have sequences of loosing with the best hand in the numbers of 20 this is ridicolous even players constantly start yelling how unlucky i am at the tables , mental game my ass , scam to limit good players winnings and to help fishes and donkeys not loose so fast , at least at sngs and mtts at pokerstars and fulltilt !!!!

Nobody ****ing cares, get a blog.

mmd

I see. Good day = Skill. Bad day = Rigged.

Did you lose 20 times in a row with the best hand? I don't know, maybe, maybe not. But if you did that an certainly happen. Just like you may win 20 times in a row with the worst.

I think not only on Poker Stars. I think that how online poker is. I really would love be wrong about since I am going to play online anyway. But I think it is not random outcome. I can see at least few reasons for that and each one would be actually thoughtful and beneficial to all players. What I mean saying beneficial is that in a long run good players have advantage anyways. Playing less random kind of poker still would be about thinking and reacting to situations one way or another, bluffing people out of pots and folding when you feel you are not going to win the hand. On the other hand I honestly believe that making it completely random would chase out bad players out of site and consequently real money online poker faster that anyone might expect.
Of course I do not think it is made up in order to take money from "you "if you win too much, because you made a withdraw recently or any other reason people put out there stating it's against them particulary . That would make it cheating if not simple stealing. Even if site could not be held responsible for such practices in a court of law, players would held it responsible in a way they had done to few sites accused of super-users breach or not reacting to collusions and players setting up others purposely playing together.
I think it is rather done to spice up action through putting much more wet boards out there (what would in itself be beneficial on many levels to the host), protecting short stacks to some degree and make "allin" situations an equal chance to win for each participant no matter the odds. Other way of achieving a goal(IMO better) would be simply make algorithm calculate outcomes of flop and each street in a way that make chance of having the best hand at the time for every player in pot equal. That would keep money put " on site" circulating much longer (hence rake every dollar/euro or whatever a few times more). It would still give an advantage to skillful players that can adjust to situation and "play players" not cards itself and no1 can complain unless want to make a big deal out "being cheated".

You have it exactly backwards. Randomness is what keeps bad players in the game. It's why the game is so popular. The high variance designed in to the game of poker lets everyone win some hands and that's why bad players think they have a chance (or even think they are good). Skill edges in poker are small, usually single digit BB/100 for pro grinders. That's the same live or online.

There are relatively few professional chess players in the world because chess has no luck factor. So chess pros can't get bad players to play them for money. In poker they can.