I'm no more than a recreational player these days, and I played >10k hands last week

I played around 15,000 hands of small stakes yesterday with a loss rate of about -6BB/100. Whereas my winrate for my 1.5 million hands for the year is 2-3BB/100. You need several hundred thousand hands in a sample before you get close to knowing what your true winrate is.

Looks like Stars paid him off, too.

Just start studying and getting better at the game and it will magically start rigging in you're favor!!!

we tend to have a lot of short term memory loss in this game. don't be a mr. forgetful:

http://youtu.be/mvVu9FI4bd4

Well I've recieved my money from Jokerstars and will never be playing on that rigged site again. Suckout after suckout, and they sure do love their 2 outer river cards.

We all need to make a stand against these criminals who are stealing money from new players and giving it to those higher up the VIP status ladder. Just take a look at the players on Pokerstars's VIP leaderboard and look them up on sharkscope. Just about all of them make serious profit - which is evidence that Stars reward their SNE's and Supernovas by giving them the good side of the deck.

On 888poker at least, the deal is fair, even if the rake is higher.

No doubt Stars will be amending their fourth quarter earning projections as soon as Daniel Negreanu informs them of your decision.

It's probably hard to get to supernova elite if you suck given how much money you'd lose doing it...

Why don't you invest in getting a high VIP rating? Grind out a bunch of fpps, get to platinum or higher and then start destroying the games and make tens of thousands?

I'm SNE and I've run worse in terms of BIs more than probably anyone who has ever posted in this thread. total so far is around 1100 BI under ev in the past 12 months to the tune of around 70k . So, so much for that theory.

Well they can't have literally every SNE running amazingly or it'd be too obvious. But most SNE's and Supernovas will run far better than they should.

This applies all the way throughout the VIP pyramid. For example, if a Goldstar was facing off against a Bronzestar, the Goldstar would get favourable flops, turns, and especially rivers.

If it's obvious enough for a micros player who never plays with SNEs to notice, they must not be doing a good job at not being obvious. Here's a graph of a friend of mine that's similar to mine (his EV is better though) from awhile back. He is also SNE and was at 1k BI under ev at the time he posted this. His runbad streak lasted 16 months and got as far as 1,800 BI below ev before it corrected (He's currently crushing this year). So everyone that cries about how it's rigged and how bad you're running, look at this graph to make yourself feel better and then get some coaching.



I await eagerly to see whatever evidence you have that show SNEs run hot.

Here's the evidence.

Link to the Pokerstars VIP leaderboard: http://www.pokerstars.com/vip/community/leaderboard/

Cross reference that list with sharkscope, and of the players who haven't blocked their stats, you'll find pretty much all of them are in serious profit.

Correlation does not imply causation.

That's only evidence they make money, not evidence that they run good. Making money doesn't alway equal running good. What evidence do you have that they run better than everyone else? So far I've shown you 1 graph as direct proof to the opposite with the EV displayed. I have others from people in the same boat. still waiting for a legitimate counter.

You will never get a legitimate count point. Generally when a specific example is shown against a proposed rigged theory they counter by saying the poker site makes sure some cases happen to disguise the rig.

Anyway, while riggie theories are generally all over the place, and often contradict each other, a couple that tend to be consistent within the riggie culture are the belief of new player/donk boomswitches and the belief in action hands (even though they reduce site rake).

Very rarely someone comes along (usually a new account) that proposes a theory against these two foundation beliefs, and often times it is someone creating a fake account to post and make riggies look stupid by suggesting a theory that none of them believe in.

Good chance the new player doomswitch guy is a fake in that regard, but if he is not then be comforted that nearly every riggie before him believes in exactly the opposite of what he proposes, so given that, what do you think posting a couple graphs will do?

At least he claimed to quit poker which is something all riggies should do as well.

All the best.

You are mistakenly believing that playing high volume (obtain SN/SNE status) leads to greater profits, whereas in truth the better players who make a lot of profit obviously are going to play higher volume than others.

In other words: Profit leads to higher volume, not higher volume leads to profit.

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If you have made money from playing poker, no matter how little, then I salut you. I'd liken it to a one-legged man winning a sprint against not particularly fast, yet able bodied, competition; your dumb and illogical thought processes are an immense obstacle to overcome in a game of poker. So well done.

Can you please stop feeding the troll already? He can't even beat NL2 on Pokerstars who cares what he thinks.

Daniel Negreanu does. He sent him a personal email immediately after he requested to withdraw his funds.

"It's rigged against players who play huge numbers of hands. Evidence: Players who play huge numbers of hands are profitable."

That's astoundingly bad logic even for a riggie.

What, do you expect me to have access to SNE accounts databases or something? There's definitely a trend between been an SNE and making stacks of cash, wich I propose is down to a rig - Pokerstars favours their higher raking players.

I'm not quitting poker, I'm quitting the rigged **** that is Pokerstars. I've made $75 on NL20 today, what do you think about that?

No, the SNE boomswitch leads to higher profits, which leads to higher volume. None of these SNE's would be raking it in if they weren't helped out by Pokerstars. Otherwise how do you explain e, as a new player to Pokerstars, losing at NL2 when I crush NL10 on another site and am a break even/marginal winner at NL20? (currently 5bb/100, although only 14k hands so a bit small of a sample).

Hopefully every day you will run hot like today and compete with the guys who work at McDonalds in terms of earnings.

I still assume you are a fake gimmick because no other riggies believe in the new player doomswitch, rather they all like the new player boomswitch concept, so are you suggesting with your theory that all the other riggies were wrong and you were right?

All the best.

I've noticed a similar trend in the world of golf. PGA pros who compete in all the majors tend to make much more money than the guys at my local course. GOLF IS RIGGED!!!

Perhaps there is some correlation between and among (1) playing 1,000,000+ hands per year; (2) being good; and (3) winning money ...

Good luck... I AM DONE HERE!

hey everyone, Vegan is done here