Yeah, my grammar is not the best.

Is not a waste of time ofc, actually it is fine and necessary. The point is that you are constantly fighting riggies, and this is a no sense if you don’t get paid.

You said that most of the pros and users of 2+2 don’t even bother to come to this thread, so why you are doing it? If you are convinced that online poker is safe why to waste your time here! You should be then playing and printing the moneyz in whatever lobby.

I just want to know WHY you are doing it.

He's likely a nit who scrapes out .25BB/100 profit on the micros and this is his way of gloating.

Who cares, let him yell at the riggies. It gives someone else a break from his nonsense.

If the game is rigged, what are the patterns?

Can you create an edge with them?

If not, why even bother complaining, is just a waste of time.

Btw I think online poker and cassinos is mostly rigged, but I cant find a way to exploit it so I dont even bother playing.

I don’t believe the RNG for poker sites is rigged, shouldn’t be at least.
Eventually if is rigged, would be impossible to prove it.

If you found how they rigged why would you share or report it? Just exploit it and make bank, but again, almost impossible to a human detect a pattern.

This!

This is a "No content" thread for entertainment purposes only.

Legit concerns that are accompanied by legit evidence earn their own thread in this Forum.

This thread is just for giggles and grins.

Addendum: If this Forum was a newspaper, this thread would be along side the Sunday Funnies

Any legit concern would would quickly merit its own thread.

Any rig theory that survived in this thread for over a week was almost certainly baseless.

Well, it's an internet forum.
They're all about as useful as the water cooler ime.

+1

Fun fantasy read you got there, but it is safe to say that I make more in a month than you do in a year, but do not let that concern you, though perhaps that is why you are a communist wannabe.

Anyway, this thread can use a bit of a boost, and if you take a quick read you will see that the online poker riggies are pretty weak when it comes to paranoia, with their really basic stuff. You should infuse some of your world order to them to help them really understand how to be a loud voice that manages to get nobody else to really pay much attention. That could be fun to watch, so let's see what you can do!


It is kind of fun to see posters like you spin around, because once in a while people like you can be good for a laugh. Usually you guys are pretty limited, but lets see if I can drag one of the whiny political posters above into the fray to see what he can add (most vanish after a few posts). Still, if he joins in then you can get a taste of why it can be amusing to have fun at the expense of people like that. In fact, search some of his posts to see what some real world riggies are like. Not pretty!

All the best.

Oh give me a break, if I had posted that my PT stats were poor, the first thing you would have typed would have been "see that's the problem right there" or words to that effect.

Look, you told me to go out and improve my play and that's exactly what I did. I bought the most popular tracking software and studied my results thoroughly. It told me I played a little too loose from the blinds so I tightened up. It told me I needed to 3 bet a little more so I did that with a slightly wider range.

Despite all of this, there aren't any stats that will prevent you from getting coolered horribly. Which is my whole point and which you conveniently ignore.

I used PT to of course, monitor the opposition. I have the data and I will only play tables where the opposition is weak. Too loose or too tight. So I know I have a significant edge over most of my competition. Losing because the competition is fierce at lower stakes is a bunch of baloney. I could go on with story after story of all the ridiculous Poker I've seen. But I'm probably telling you what you already know.

If you say so. What does that have to do with anything?

I didn't tell you to do anything. I did suggest three things you could do in response to your results, though. Which one you choose to do is up to you; it makes no difference to me.

I don't know what "conveniently ignore" is meant to imply, but what is it you want me to say? You've provided anecdote #4,385 without evidence - congratulations! Would you like a cookie?

it happened again on Ignition like usual, its amazing to see

it lets you win for a little while and then nothing goes right, bad beat after bad beat, flop never connects, you have to fold all the time and it slowly subtracts all your winnings, it took a lot of time and effort and eventually it turns your account into prize funding mode

this is why it seems like its rigged, because its not true poker competition based on real randomness, but more system-driven to even out the playing field and create happy experiences for everyone

Is disgusting to see the arrogance you spread, basically I only wanted to know WHY this thread is your home, and now I understood. You are just the typical bully boy, making fun of people( riggies) just to boost your ego.
Is pathetic how you mention above that probably you make more in a month than him in a a year... might be true, but nobody gives a damn **** men. And hope is true for you, because there is nothing worst than lying to yourself.
Just imagine, you are a loser and also you lie to yourself and go around telling ppl you win money in this game and defending like crusades that game is not rigged, it will be double pathetic.
All the best, and yeah Im gonna vanish, you are toxic.

I'm not hear to defend anyone's trolling, but this seems like a really odd thing to call him out for when it was in reply to this:

I've always found it so odd when people come post on forums and then question other people about why they're posting there. Yes, I know he's posting far more than you ever would - do you have any recreational pursuits? It would appear that this thread is one of Monty's - not sure why that's so hard to figure out.

The irony with my "living here" is that prior to this tiny batch of posts I had not posted in here in a couple months. Online poker riggies could not really compete with Trumpderps and their krakens, but given that the Trumpderps had their correct ending, it is fun to relax with the base level riggies again.


To be fair - the riggies enjoy the attention when they do their whines. I regard them as a variety of a pet, and most of them play that role properly.

My suggestion to you if you find this thread and my posts to be that mentally crippling to you is never open the thread again. You were the one that said threads like this were a waste of time anyway, so get back to that whittling.

You seemed to leave out the comment he made that started that back and forth for some reason. Riggies do that all the time, and that is a behavior I encourage, because that is what makes writing a simple (and true) quid pro quo style reply more enjoyable. You really should search his other posts to see what real life riggies are like, and once you do that you may understand why the ones in this thread (and all material in this thread) is mostly harmless.


Imagine being the person that gets that emotional that they have to scream about what they think is someone (while ignoring other people's comments) lying to oneself in a thread where literally nothing said matters. That is triple pathetic!


Riggies pretty much always vanish, but they get replaced by different ones. Ideally the new ones are a source of entertainment. Be sure to check out the updated riggie list at the start of 2021, and also vote in the riggie poll - the riggie side needs all the help it can get.

All the best.

The problem is he is trying to turn this thread into a riggies laughfest, everything anyone has said/claimed about a site suspected of having shenanigans, he dismisses it as complete utter nonsense horse ****, he should have been banned from this thread long ago, he is turning this into a sort of joke. He has nothing to back up what he is talking about but simply denying everything.

The problem is that losers who are bad players, have experienced losing streaks, or have been on the wrong side of some of the bad beats that happen constantly, etc, have been coming to this thread to whine about online poker being rigged for years. Not one, (and by not one I mean zero), of them have ever provided the slightest shred of proof, or even tried to give some reasonable statistical evidence of rigging, over all of those years.

Understandably, that history does kind of make a laughing stock out of the "riggies", and most of the people who accept that there is a great deal of luck involved in poker that is difficult to overcome without constant hard work in a number of areas to increase their skill appreciate the fact that this thread exists to minimise disruption of the threads discussing important aspects of the game and sites.

As someone suggested above, don't open this unimportant thread if you don't want to enjoy it as is.

In case you did not notice - twoplustwo created this containment thread a decade ago to literally contain riggies. Do you think they did that so that riggies could collaborate and present their data in an organized and effective manner, or do you think they did that to basically give riggies a space where they could yell at clouds to vent? Perhaps you should turn your wrath toward the evil, sinister mods who imposed such a dastardly deed to the riggie culture years ago.

Riggies are by definition a laughfest, but if you are upset about it then my suggestion is that you look over the riggie content provided and pick a few theories you think deserve more attention and explain why by providing some actual data. If you or any riggie provide actual verifiable data then you will be treated quite a bit differently, but as long as riggies just whine without any evidence of anything then they remain a harmless joke, nothing more. If you or other riggies need a safe space to have no counter opinions then you can create your own message board or skype/discord chat group, much like some of the whiny posters in the politics forum created their own safe space (after being booted here).

All the best.

Oh don't worry, it doesn't concern me.
If you make 12 times what I do and you live in a place where it snows 11 months out of the year, you're not winning any competition.


I only wish you wouldn't pay attention to me.
You're like a genie. If I speak your name you appear.

Do you find it odd that people mostly ignore gnats but occasionally swat at them ?

It is a riggie laugh fest. Many players make posts and male accusations that it is riggies or predetermined with nothing other than mighty big feelz. Losing hands with big percentage of favor to win all the while ignoring that the percentage is not 100%.

I have offered to have entire hand histories analyzed, for free, to check for any standard deviation of math. Zero takers, even from the ones 100% certain it is rigged against them. Clearly, any rigged aspect would show up in the math.

Interesting how you make the claim that monty does nott show any proof. That is the exact thing the riggies do. Show zero proof, they do try and turn it around demanding to prove/disprove a negative or their anecdotal experiences.

You can find threads of actual problems and proof of them throughout the poker threads here. They actually get real conversation. The foot stomping whines of poker is rigged because my AA lost are collected and placed here. You should not the title of the thread being a great debate is in quotes. As in, there is no debate here, just farcical blabbering.

It does not snow here 11 months a year, so seems you will not be able to cling to that fantasy to feel better about your relative situation. I do not regard you in any way shape or form as competitive, so winning or losing is not really a thing when dealing with life riggies like you. It is just about how to be entertained by you.


You seem to have forgotten that you came here from the void and tossed some personal attacks toward me first. Not like I ever would think to do the same to you, because you do not really matter in that way. I can understand why you relate to the gnat.

Anyway, if you have some fun riggie theories then toss them in here, and they can even be some of your real world riggie beliefs as those may help inspire some of the online poker riggies when they post in the future. Tell them about how all political parties are the same, and decode their sinister motives that the sheeple fail to notice. That type of fun stuff! If you choose not to, then no difference really.

All the best.

That's okay because you don't make 12 times what I do either.

You wouldn't think to do the same to me because I kicked you azz when you tried it.

But no worries. This is your place, I'm not going to come over here. I was just here to bother D2 and saw you have the same annoying effect on people here as in the other threads and it amused me. I shouldn't have posted anything about you. Mybad.

Have fun.

Yeah, it probably is higher.

Not sure what this fetish fantasy of yours is about, but I assume you felt really tough as you typed it. In that case, good for you!

People like you always flee pretty quickly as I predicted, but thanks for visiting and be sure to vote in the poll. Thanks!

All the best.

Monty pulls in a couple of million USD every year.

He's rich like Trump. lol