you love these one line family stock jokes eh.

If the world was unfortunate that you had a brother. Im sure your "highly intelligent parents" would have named it Pelvis.

That is some poker player banter right there but with that said, if you know your standard deviation is being assaulted and some of your money is being pilfered do yourself a favor and stop spending.... Online poker is similar to a sheep herder in that they make way more money shaving the sheep rather than slaughtering them. The algorithms "divert" small amounts of money at a time. Think of them as HAL 9000.

@YK / Ur post appears somewhat accurate from my experience. although im over online poker and just play live now.

Riggies should definitely quit all forms of gambling, especially online gambling (since many think live games are legit since they can watch stuff with their eyes, and nobody cheats in live games). Seems we all agree on that, and it is something I have told many riggies to do for many years. Ideally others will follow the lead of you two, who are correctly leaving an activity in which you cannot compete.

A few riggies can win, and are usually just whining about beats, but it is unfortunate that none of those who claim they win (like the person above who claims to have won 200K playing 2 tables of 25NL somehow) have no way of verifying even their claims of winnings. Also, it is a shame that a system as easy as winning/losing days (what time zone does the "day restart") are not exploited by riggies for literally millions of dollars.


Well, it is actually an improvement over his past fetish of using bodily functions as his method of attack. A standard example of his work from a few years ago.


https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=81999


so one needs to take "improvement" wherever possible. In the end he is totally harmless, but it would be nice if he improved or at least updated his misery projection comedy.

All the best.

Also remember that to the online software a deuce and an ace are sequential because there is not a "0" card to act as a separator between the two. So there is absolutely no reason for you to have to look down at 3 or 4 deuces before you see an ace. If this happens to you multiple times within a single sitting you need to realize the chances of this happening randomly are far beyond any reasonable standard deviation. So if this happens I'd recommend cashing out at least for that session.

I will leave the dropping a deuce line for Kelvis if he wants to go retro stylistically, and all I will add is that it has been a long term shame that no riggies can properly exploit huge system flaws like you point out for literally millions of dollars. Instead most, like you, suggest that all games like this should be avoided, even when they have essentially a super user ability (if their beliefs were true). Riggies must really hate money.

All the best.

Online Poker and the Illuminati are one and the same thing. It's a conspiracy against players, you cannot win playing online poker. Ever wondered why so many players on Stars use satanic looking avatars and have names with "666" in them?

I used to love bodog. A $40 deposit would last me months grinding and learning. A few times I did flip it into $500 and I tried to cash out, and something always happened. It would take so long to cash out I would cancel my withdraw to fund my account and at the end I never got anything from all my tries, always an excuse.

Fast forward, I said a $40 deposit would last me months grinding. Recently I donated another $50 deposit to ignition. Dude the first 5 hands, someone had a FULL House..... how is that possible????

The 6th hand someone had 4 of a kind. Then the 7th hand, I get pocket Aces, and 10J pushes all in preflop and I lose to a straight..... like really??

He put me all in with a garbage hand.... So I left. Came back later and proceeded to lose my money faster than ever before. Did anyone else experience this? Like I experienced bad beats before on bodog, bovada, some days a lot of bad beats, but these set ups now are too fishy.

I recall getting AK suited on the button. 2 medium stacks push all in first, one guy had 78 not suited, and the other 89 suited and 89 won with a 3 of a kind lol... it was like that until my account hit zero in record time. A dude stacked me too, I had the nuts on the turn, I put him all in, he needed a 2 and only a 2 to make a straight and sure enough he got it. At this point I saw it coming.

not sure if to call it rigged or stupid unreal set ups??

It works like a slot machine. Over time, for every dollar you commit to the pot, you will only get 90 cents back, until your bankroll is ground to dust. Then they want you to deposit again and do it all over. Some sites have a "fast deposit" button in the top corner of the screen. I usually find a fast removal of their software from my computer is a better option.

OVER AND OUT

Poe's Law in full effect here.

A full house? Holy ****!

That's called rake. It's not a secret that they take money from the pot. It's how poker sites make money.

Maybe I am not seeing something, enlightened me. The odds of 5 hands in a row showing a full house is actually mathematically possible? Then follow that by a 4 of a kind, and Aces cracked by garbage?? If its not rigged its very unrealistic. But then again I know casinos have machines now, that dont deal jackpot hands 99.9% of the time, and it's no secrete. So maybe it is possible but I am not buying it.

There are better ways for them to make money than charging rake. Advertising for example. They charge rake because they are part of a satanic cult.

Maybe that is the problem? You have demonstrated to them that you are a big loser and probably addicted but that you are always willing to come back to redeposit.

Maybe they look for players like you, and decide to increase your deposit rate by giving your $50 to others in record time?

After all, they must make about $3.50 in rake for the company itself out of your $50 if they follow that strategy.

Actually no. When Bodog became bovada I tried to cash out. I waited over a year for a $500 dollar cash out. I was calling every month, then a few times a month. They gave me an excuses like being backed up, blaming other banks, saying that it shows it was delivered already. I was playing, grinding with 80 bucks on the account playable that I did not cash out. At this point I figured I won’t see the money and started taking shots higher, which was the only good thing about this. I played higher levels. But I continued depositing because it was good practice I was learning. Now they are just playing unreasonable and unrealistic set ups, and I am not learning anything. And we can’t chat and it is all anonymous.

Well, you're beginning to learn how they rig it against you - "... he needed a 2 and only a 2 to make a straight and sure enough he got it. At this point I saw it coming."

As our resident shill might say, "You can make mirrions, now that you've found the rig."

(Unless it's a rolling rig that only activates once you're all in. In that case, you're a marked man and totally ****ed. You should give up poker on that site, just in case.)

Live Poker is also rigged by the way. People worry about bots in online poker, have you not considered there might be bots playing live poker? Tom Dwan and Patric Antonius two prime examples. They are cyborgs programmed by the Triads and then remote controlled while at the tables.

Well, at least I get paid for posting.



Yes, yes - we get it. You posted as a genuine riggie for over a year, and once Bobo asked if you were trolling (due to some genuinely clueless posts by you) you then adapted by going over the top with silly statements to make it seem like you were the same troll all along. Others have done that routine long before you to try to distance themselves from their earlier posts, and anyway, it is well known that the people you are talking about are Lizard People Overlords, not bots, so get your facts straight.

All the best.

You just have to check the balance sheet, that they hand out annually to their shareholders, over 90 % of the deposited money goes into rake.
You basically got to be a one in a hundred player to make a relevant profit.
Considering the fact how many out of those hundred are decent players,
it turns way to much into a gamble.

Deposited money for a specific time period (ie: reporting year) does not equal all the money on the site, in fact it likely represents a small percentage of all the money "in play" on the site at any one time. A lot of players who consistently win never or rarely deposit, as they are taking money out of the system, and definitely a chunk of the deposited money is going there as well.

Go back in time some and many would move the same money with cashouts and deposits for bonuses within the sites (and later on and currently with e-wallet rewards) - so the pure deposit number is not entirely an accurate one as well. Other money is added to the site by the different promotions the rooms run as well as any tournament overlays and rakeback style rewards (granted smaller these days, but still something), so "player deposits" is not the only way new money is introduced to the poker economy.

Not expecting any of this to change your outlook - just pointing out how you are misunderstanding some of the basic data you are presenting. If they represent that rake gets 90% of deposits to their shareholders then that is a fairly standard approach many companies use of having stats that let people believe something (for shareholders the financial health of the company, for you some riggie whatever) that is not entirely accurate, so your 1 in 100 make money conclusion is based on data you misinterpreted, and is clearly not correct. In future take some time to really look at and understand the stats they are presenting, and then dismiss them as you tend to do to get to the end belief you want .

All the best.

Nope, he's the same troll he always was, like on his second day in this thread:

And here was your response to the second post (emphasis mine):

We need to stop feeding the troll IMO.

My original post was pretty accurate - his troll routine is very weak. Lots of genuine riggies posted stuff pretty much the exact same as him (lot of genuine rigged for Russia riggies for instance - was a whole lot of crazy about that in one Stars series years ago). Another was convinced all of Poland was colluding. Thus, it is not easy remembering that he is a pretend riggie that behaves like an actual riggie requires far more effort than will ever be used in a thread like this. Essentially he is the "I was Only Pretending" meme.


At least when that submissive Politics dude came here briefly with his graph and fruit fetish he was not pretending to be a full riggie, so credit where credit is due on doing that act properly.

Anyway, since like me you also get paid to post on the forums - we should eventually agree to agree on this in some capacity (shills of the world unite sort of thing), so I will just toss the "I was Only Pretending" guy on ignore, and problem solved .

Except you didn't check, and totally made that up. The industry average is more like one third.

A balance sheet doesn't even show deposits over time, it merely shows what is held in escrow at present. Withdrawals and deposits happen daily. The correct comparison is rake income over total deposits for the same time period.

+1000

Those "bad beats" started slowing way down when I plugged some leaks.

Amazing what a bit of study time can do for win rate.

the System will dealt you a winning hand again on the next game.

Um, in less than two months of part time playing, have almost 12k hands. Rocked with it the other day deep stacked cash game, damn, didn't get a winning hand the next hand.

If that was the case, all in utg (or mp2) with 83 off is definitely the way to go here.

Maybe it's not rigged after all...

https://www.boomplayer.com/31258148_A25AD3520E