yea i just came back to the online scene (havent played since black friday) - and i can confirm the state of online poker in the US is terrible lol.

Worrying about sites screwing people over is a real concern judging by all the sites that have got in trouble - but the bigger problem is the only players left playing all have pro dreams - this translates into them playing 'by the book' and using bankroll management , etc ,etc - which further translates into even the lowest stake games being harder than they should be - which gets further aggravated by the fact that there is no volume.

So you have semi 'pros' grinding low stakes thinking that they are practicing bankroll management - in fact they will mostly stay in low stakes because of lack of volume- and while stuck in those stakes, they prevent any new players from having a chance

At the end of the day guys - no one wants to play a $1 sng that takes 30 minutes to start and an hour and a half to play lol. That right there is much worst than any rigging because it basically means the site is dead.

hope all that gibberish made sense! just my opinion from what ive seen

PS - if most of the posters on this forum are European then none of what i said applies to you. I think Pokerstars is still big outside the US so you shouldnt have these issues, and if you do , they will not be as pronounced

I get that you have a weird fetish about the staking industry, but to be blunt, you really have no idea what you are talking about in that area, and the irony is that by attacking me in that arena you are going after one of the groups that puts transparency and player needs extremely high on the agenda. The contracts have no basis in law, and we never suggest otherwise, however they provide a structure (that many players need) to help them choose the best games and formats moving forward to make money at this game. If you want to be a champion to the masses in your mind then go after the groups who post all the personal data, including multiple photo IDs, of someone who doesn't study enough or played the Storm when they should not or something equivalent.

You are hardly the first person to toss my name in this thread (which, congrats, is one of the few violations of the posting rules in this thread despite it hadly being a secret), and it is a shame that is the path you chose, because that takes it from standard riggie thread silly banter to personal, and that is not what this thread, nor anything I post is about. I will not copy your behavior, because I actually appreciate the silly limits that nearly everyone follows in this thread, riggies included. The other guys who appeared today did they silly spew (which they know is silly), I did a silly reply, and everyone is happy. They know this thread is fake like pro wresting. You do not. That's too bad, and it, along with your stalky PMs, shows that you lack a general awareness of your surroundings, and others within it. Hell, a while ago one of the "meanest" interactions I had was with someone I was actually backing at the time (we did not reveal that in the thread) and the pre-planned "attacks" added a ton of laughs and cheer to the group as they played, and made the thread fun to read as well. Wins for everyone who recognized what threads like this are really about.

Since you seem incapable of recognizing the mental issues you have here, and because you crossed a line that very few (riggies included) cross, I will do what you should have done to me (given your reactions/behavior) long ago - I will put you on ignore, and you will go back to where you belong - not existing. No all the best for you anymore.

Anyway, to the other void riggies who appeared, thanks for the fun, and I hope you had fun being "mean" to me as well, and hopefully some genuine riggies will appear in the future, also looking for some amusement.

Glad to see what I once thought was you creating fake accounts to talk to yourself was actually one of your deciples. Either way, is the endless hours and years you continue to spend here worth it? Stables are terrible for the integrity of the game and promote a healthy dose of collusion and various type of cheating. Not saying you do, you might run the only stable that doesn’t do to some degree.

Monty you’ve had an account since 2006, i’m reading riggie posts in this thread from you from 2009, i see why this is so important to you. It’s your job and must bring a tickle to your buttocks when us real folk wonder in here every few months in between your stables banter. Your doing 2p2 a real service keeping the lights on in an empty room. You’re the real Trooper45-50

Actually it was a person who applied to me in my staking thread at the time. We did not do much to hide the routine, but most people (on both sides) are kind of simplistic creatures that just take this thread at face value when they see it. Have you seen how people react to that jungmit dude for instance?


Over the years it averages maybe a post a day, with often times weeks or month gaps in between posting, but I realize it makes people of your kind to classify that as "endless."

Look at your posting history (with this latest account) over the years. Every post is a whiny one about this industry that you continue to do full time to make sub minimum wage. I know from a monetary perspective it has certainly been worth it for me. How about you? .

You and that other rando have such a simplistic outlook of this industry, that trying to explain it (even outside a silly thread like this) would be pretty pointless.

This may shock you, but each player has their own financial success as their main goal. Colluding with others who happen to be backed by the same person (in many cases the players do not even know that) would be counterproductive to that, and would also be very evident in their play history with Pokerstars as well. There is basically nothing to gain for the players and everything to lose, so while some stables likely do some things (ghosting for instance) that we do not ( I mean, would you want me to ghost you :P), much of what you and that other rando think happens is totally impractical.

Nothing said here is important. Its an amusing way to have a little fun. All of my posts, including this one, have that annoying lack of seriousness to them wrapped up within serious language. People like you are soft targets, and its fun to have a little banter like this, that's all.

Your posts are mainly angry whining - has that been fun for you to do over and over for years on multiple posting accounts?



Won't lie - the quality of the riggies has dropped a ton, and that's why weeks and months go by with no activity. You posted here a few times recently that I did not even notice, and that is an indication of the marginal quality of fun that you and the other void stalker riggies bring to the table, however as I mentioned above at least you guys keep the pro wrestling the way it should be within the thread. You have yet to send me weird stalky PMs like that other dude, so likely I will see you here again in a few weeks or months after you post a few dozen times about how horrible this industry is in Pokerstars and Party and other threads in between your daily non monetary grind. You really should quit all forms of poker.

All the best.

lol Montery still here shilling away. How many posts have you made in this thread chump? 100000000? Told you years ago to get a life. lul

lul

Hey, not everybody can have the long time 10 NL Zoom lifestyle that you have provided for yourself. Keep at that grind for many more years to come, and once in a while visit here to tell others how they have no life.

All the best.

Is anything preventing online poker sites' software designers, employees and their people from cheating? Similar to the way that it happens in video games like Madden? Where glitches are programmed into the product for some reason and only a couple people in the world know it until the word is spread by them.

Online seems like a comedy of cheating lately and this might be a possible explanation.

Something isn't right with Online Poker and hasn't been for years. But now it just seems out of control, impossible to win.

You should post some links that "spread the world" with proof, like you mentioned exist, as that would add a lot more weight to what you are trying to say. Certainly this theory of yours is the only logical explanation as to why you find it impossible to win at online poker, what else could be at work?

You already have a history of some investigative work

followed a couple months later with

so it is evident that you have a pulse of the industry. Use it, and build on it to expose the truth so that all can see.

All the best.

False

wait,

still false.

Aside from honesty and ethics, there's also the amount of work vs reward. But I think what has many believing the games are on the up-and-up is that after all this time, no real evidence proving otherwise has come to light.

Is this actually a thing? Like, a proven thing, as opposed to people rambling that they know its rigged? Doesn't really have anything to do with this thread, but I'm curious.

I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean. If you mean the fact that there are people who use bots and others that collude, no, that wouldn't be an explanation. If instead you just mean that you think "something isn't right" and therefore it is a "comedy of cheating", see below.

What isn't right? Do you have any evidence of this?

Well, there are plenty of winners, so obviously that isn't true.

Somebody wins every hand that you lose.

Their enjoyment of being employed and the likely hood that they will eventually get caught and probably get sued by their employer for breach of contract, fraud, etc.

There have already been cases of super user accounts on sites, that are mostly now no longer in business. It is very likely that their are still people out there cheating, but as a player, you have very little power over changing that.

The best you can do is stay on reputable sites that understand the value of providing fair games to their clients, because the amount of money that they make in rake and fees far exceeds anything that might be gained from trying to screw their clients out of money. Happy clients that keep playing and redepositing because they enjoy the game are willing to accept the fact that they might lose, and will continue to play, if the times they lose don't seem to be fishy.

Mental health care has failed us.

hands down, most rigged site around. period. im sure some bafoon working for ignition sits on some board for 2p2. stay away from this joke of a site

lol you guys are dicks. and the way youre acting is worse than calling you dicks.

obviously what i said implies that only people cheating have a chance to win online. ok good chance ill say. plus i said it seems that way. anyone have the definition of seems? anybody else waiting to pounce?

you'll feel better in the morning

Your post seems really ****ing dumb.

and I'm already a 0 to you guys, not a 1 because i already said in a different post that i don't have evidence of being cheated.

do you really think you can lure out every player who has proof of being cheated to admitting it on these forums?

also, cheaters would obviously have to pick their spots and balance their cheating so that they could fit into the data analysis that you guys are recommending. this is part of their training in micors, learning how to do this, which is why ive seen a lot of weirdness at micros. but you arrogant low stakes geniuses might not notice it yet because the cheating gets increasingly less obvious the higher you go. a sad aspect of this is that (if it is going on like it seems to be) there must be droves of cheaters learning how to cheat at micros who are making pennies per day. they must be close to that promotion to nickels and if theyre loyal, some day dollars, benjamin(s)! devouring the houses of widows along the way.

i think it might be the software designers. either way it seems highly likely that tech employees are involved in any online poker cheating. tech, government, a combo of both, then the people that they pay or don't pay to be their friends.

even if people cheat their fellow players and get away with it and act like jerks to honest fellow players who are trying to win honestly and who don't want to be cheated: chances are they will have to answer to a higher authority at some point. if God is directly telling people to cheat me at online poker then i guess i would be wrong about this. its been pretty irritating.

It's more that your posts read like a paranoid lunatic than lack of evidence
Maybe you're just not very good at poker.

You're on the same level as a flat earther or 9/11 conspiritard. I don't think experimental cloning of manatees could produce less intelligent organisms.

I'm an irritated online poker player who is trying to win.

I would be stunned if the games that we have available to play online in the USA are fair. others on these forums (some on other threads) have already admitted the games aren't fair because of bots and unspecified cheating.

I'm sorry, are you one of the low stakes geniuses? or what is your issue?

Everyone is a genius compared to you. When you walk into a room you bring down the average IQ to low double digits.

that is a possibility, am i supposed to claim that i never doubt my ability to play winning online poker?

I'm sorry, are you one of the low stakes geniuses? or what is your issue?

should we dive deeper into this? is there just something a few posts up that you're trying to distract readers from?

When you open a window air rushes in to fill the enormous void inside your head.

No its not. Im in the top 100 on Madden every year. there are just people that spend every waking moment of their lives playing and practicing Madden, dudes just pissed he got beat. Probably the same in poker