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05-26-2018 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
But let's talk about ignition not have a license or a certificate for their rng. U guys just brushed over it. So at this point they are free to do anything they want.
You know, I've countered a few of these guys on other forums (the ones complaining about Ignition's lack of a license) but I mean...their complaint is valid. Of course the answer is "if you don't like it, don't play there" but is that really the bottom line? At any rate, I still think it's a valid point now. There's really no reason for them to remain unlicensed for so long. I understand a hiatus during transition or a technical hangup but Ignition doesn't appear to be making an attempts to actually attain a license.
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05-26-2018 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by HugeStacks
You know, I've countered a few of these guys on other forums (the ones complaining about Ignition's lack of a license) but I mean...their complaint is valid. Of course the answer is "if you don't like it, don't play there" but is that really the bottom line? At any rate, I still think it's a valid point now. There's really no reason for them to remain unlicensed for so long. I understand a hiatus during transition or a technical hangup but Ignition doesn't appear to be making an attempts to actually attain a license.
The real weird thing is they had a certificate from itech labs for their rng. 2 months ago it's disappeared. And last month was my first down month on the site in a year and I am also down right now this month. Seems very odd. Before that I had not had a losing month since I been playing
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05-26-2018 , 03:12 PM
In my years of working I know most companies that are about to go out of business or sell out tend to cut corners. Ignition seems to be cutting lots or corners. This could be a sign. I think it's time to take most of the money out.
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05-26-2018 , 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
In my years of working I know most companies that are about to go out of business or sell out tend to cut corners. Ignition seems to be cutting lots or corners. This could be a sign. I think it's time to take most of the money out.
You may be jumping the gun a bit here and I'm certainly not giving up on the site - Just agreeing with you that the lack of a license is indeed concerning at this point.

I do know that I just played there for hours at 25NL and it was absolutely packed with bots. The last time I saw anything that obvious was on WPN 12+ months ago. I will also say that prior to just a few months ago, Ignition was regularly rewarding players for volume and then they stopped doing that. No bonuses offered, no rewards, no rakeback, nothing.
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05-27-2018 , 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by HugeStacks
You may be jumping the gun a bit here and I'm certainly not giving up on the site - Just agreeing with you that the lack of a license is indeed concerning at this point.

I do know that I just played there for hours at 25NL and it was absolutely packed with bots. The last time I saw anything that obvious was on WPN 12+ months ago. I will also say that prior to just a few months ago, Ignition was regularly rewarding players for volume and then they stopped doing that. No bonuses offered, no rewards, no rakeback, nothing.
When companies are going out of business or selling there are signs. They begin cutting corners. I am seeing signs. They don't seem to care about anything. This could spell trouble. Now they have no certificate from itech labs for their rng, so they have now let that go. Lots of signs pointing inn the wrong direction
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05-27-2018 , 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
When companies are going out of business or selling there are signs. They begin cutting corners. I am seeing signs. They don't seem to care about anything. This could spell trouble. Now they have no certificate from itech labs for their rng, so they have now let that go. Lots of signs pointing inn the wrong direction
Again: I like being fair and straightforward. I agreed with you in regards to the licensing issue on Ignition and botting as a whole in today's online game. I don't agree with you that there are signs of Ignition "going out of business", that sites are rigged, or that the sky is falling. That I do want to make clear.
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05-27-2018 , 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
In my years of working I know most companies that are about to go out of business or sell out tend to cut corners. Ignition seems to be cutting lots or corners. This could be a sign. I think it's time to take most of the money out.
I thought you were the kind of guy who likes to invest heavily when you identify that the system is rigged against you.
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05-27-2018 , 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by cramble
I thought you were the kind of guy who likes to invest heavily when you identify that the system is rigged against you.
There is no site rigged for or against anyone 1 person.
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05-27-2018 , 01:26 PM
How are the bitcoin fees now. I just had a conversation and I think I need to move my money to another site. Just want to make sure the fees won't be too much. Not getting a good feeling at this site anymore
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05-27-2018 , 01:30 PM
Jungmit have you ever done an IQ-test? Not to check the value, just to see if it's there.
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05-27-2018 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
Jungmit have you ever done an IQ-test? Not to check the value, just to see if it's there.
Yes I actually have. Scored a 142. And I am actually not even sure if 142 is a good score. Guy at worked talked me into taking it.
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05-27-2018 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
To me this is just a cage where we contain tards.
Well that's a bit mean.

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05-27-2018 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by fidstar-poker
Well that's a bit mean.

Monteroy 4,866
Wiki 4,389
otatop 2,967
blatantlyrigged 2,492
Arouet 2,274
Bobo Fett 2,090
In a daycare there is a small number of adults changing a large number of diapers. There are a billion <100 post toddlers in this thread.
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05-27-2018 , 02:06 PM
At least it isn't BBV, even with solid threads and content such as

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/6...25/?highlight=

jungmit and his self claimed 142 IQ (while not understanding what IQ means) should visit there and share some of his wealth of knowledge right after he cashes out all his money from Ignition and loses it by not understanding how bitcoin works.

All the best.
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05-27-2018 , 02:46 PM
Average IQ is 100 with a standard deviation of 15. Three standard deviations would be 145 which is 1.35 people out of 1000 (100-99.73 encompasses the 55 and lower IQ group so it is not 2.7 people out of 1000)

I'll bet about 1/1000 people have a 142 IQ.

Sounds like someone took an online IQ test rather than an actual IQ test at a testing center.
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05-27-2018 , 02:49 PM
Whenever you take an IQ-test that "some guy at worked" mentions, you know you are dumb as f.
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05-27-2018 , 03:41 PM
Ha. Good point.

I like to not read his posts for content, but rather to count the number of spelling, grammar, syntax, and inaccuracy errors. I then try to beat my high score.

I'm picky though and will count things as errors just to boost my score.

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Originally Posted by jungmit
Yes I actually have. Scored a 142. And I am actually not even sure if 142 is a good score. Guy at worked talked me into taking it.
For example, most noobs to this game would only count a score of 2 for the missing comma and worked lol. I actually count the unnecessary use of the word actually as an error and using the word twice in such a short post as another error. I also count the word actually as a tell (faking strong) that the score might be a lie. A lie would be an error bringing my total score up to a 5.

I could go on but a 5 is a very strong score for such a short post.

Actually.
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05-27-2018 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
Whenever you take an IQ-test that "some guy at worked" mentions, you know you are dumb as f.
The guy at work was a member of mensa. Don't ask questions you don't wan to hear answer to. Sorry u don't like the answer
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05-27-2018 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by LETIGRA
Ha. Good point.

I like to not read his posts for content, but rather to count the number of spelling, grammar, syntax, and inaccuracy errors. I then try to beat my high score.

I'm picky though and will count things as errors just to boost my score.



For example, most noobs to this game would only count a score of 2 for the missing comma and worked lol. I actually count the unnecessary use of the word actually as an error and using the word twice in such a short post as another error. I also count the word actually as a tell (faking strong) that the score might be a lie. A lie would be an error bringing my total score up to a 5.

I could go on but a 5 is a very strong score for such a short post.

Actually.
U got a lot of free time. You may realise alot of people are typing on their phones. Crazy auto correct turns some words into other words. I do not proof read before I submit. My error i guess. But if u enjoy then it is all worth it. Have at it my mentally under developed friend.
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05-27-2018 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
U got a lot of free time. You may realise alot of people are typing on their phones. Crazy auto correct turns some words into other words. I do not proof read before I submit. My error i guess. But if u enjoy then it is all worth it. Have at it my mentally under developed friend.
Even if you did you wouldn't know what was wrong so why bother.
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05-27-2018 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
Even if you did you wouldn't know what was wrong so why bother.
There is nothing wrong . U have an opinion that differs from mine. You have no proof I have no proof, we have opinion. If u go thru life thinking people who disagree with you are wrong you are going to live an incredibly shallow life.
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05-27-2018 , 04:08 PM
People that say "it's just opinion there is no truth" tend to be wrong close to 100% of the time, that's why they say it. Like "playing is more important than winning" said no winner ever, only the losers.
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05-27-2018 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
People that say "it's just opinion there is no truth" tend to be wrong close to 100% of the time, that's why they say it. Like "playing is more important than winning" said no winner ever, only the losers.
So you have proof that it's not Rigged? Well stop with the opinions and show your proof
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05-27-2018 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
Even if you did you wouldn't know what was wrong so why bother.
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Originally Posted by jungmit
There is nothing wrong . U have an opinion that differs from mine. You have no proof I have no proof, we have opinion. If u go thru life thinking people who disagree with you are wrong you are going to live an incredibly shallow life.
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Originally Posted by jungmit
So you have proof that it's not Rigged? Well stop with the opinions and show your proof
He even bolded the specific sentence in the post he was responding to - "I do not proof read before I submit." - how do you go from that back to rigging?

Actually, you don't need to answer. I know how you did it - you jungmited.
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05-27-2018 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
Ignition casino is currently running with Out a license and they don't have a certificate for their rng anymore. Time to jump ship? We are getting closer to exposing them
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Originally Posted by jungmit
But let's talk about ignition not have a license or a certificate for their rng. U guys just brushed over it. So at this point they are free to do anything they want.
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Originally Posted by jungmit
The real weird thing is they had a certificate from itech labs for their rng. 2 months ago it's disappeared. And last month was my first down month on the site in a year and I am also down right now this month. Seems very odd. Before that I had not had a losing month since I been playing
In 2016 the New Jersey government convinced the Kahnawake Gaming Commission to pull licenses from all operators who operate in the United States. Bovada/Ignition then voluntarily surrendered its license.

https://www.onlinepokerreport.com/22...their_licenses

Is this what you are talking about?

If them not having a license makes you significantly uneasy, then definitely don't play there.
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