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View Poll Results: Is Online Poker Rigged?
Yes
3,502 34.89%
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5,607 55.86%
Undecided
929 9.25%

03-28-2024 , 07:06 PM
so the site is rigged in your favor? why are you complaining?
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03-29-2024 , 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
so the site is rigged in your favor? why are you complaining?
Def not rigged in my favor
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03-29-2024 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by stefanprodan
I think that's around the upper end of normal, I think if a site were genuinely just having people cooler each other for stacks way more than normal it would be a lot higher
That is possible, but have u compared it to other sites? Even iff it's off by say 5% that will make a big difference over time.
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03-29-2024 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Haven
For those who wish to continue to engage with jungmit, you will find many of his latest posts moved to the "Rigged" debate thread in DPS.
Ty. But maybe u should have moved them to the non-rigged thread ?
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03-29-2024 , 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
Ty. But maybe u should have moved them to the non-rigged thread ?
It's easier for those who would like to read hundreds of your similar posts if they're all in one thread. They can see the last 250 posts by you in that thread simply by searching for posts by you in it.

This thread is not the place for your repetetive claims and questions, so please move back to the "Rigged" thread with them.

Thanks.
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03-29-2024 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Haven
It's easier for those who would like to read hundreds of your similar posts if they're all in one thread. They can see the last 250 posts by you in that thread simply by searching for posts by you in it.

This thread is not the place for your repetetive claims and questions, so please move back to the "Rigged" thread with them.

Thanks.
I said numerous times I don't believe it's rigged.
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03-29-2024 , 05:12 PM
What’s the other option if it’s not actually random?
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03-30-2024 , 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
What’s the other option if it’s not actually random?
Well that is what we're trying to figure out. You have to understand that in order for a random number generator to pass the random test all it has to do is be fair. That means as long as it's fair to everybody it's going to pass the RNG test. That doesn't necessarily mean it's dealing the same way every other site is. It just means it's fair to all the players. So you might find out that your standard deviation here is more, you might find out you hit more flush drawers more straight draws more top pairs stuff like this but as long as everybody else is also hitting those then it would be deemed as Fair
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03-30-2024 , 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
Well that is what we're trying to figure out. You have to understand that in order for a random number generator to pass the random test all it has to do is be fair. That means as long as it's fair to everybody it's going to pass the RNG test. That doesn't necessarily mean it's dealing the same way every other site is. It just means it's fair to all the players. So you might find out that your standard deviation here is more, you might find out you hit more flush drawers more straight draws more top pairs stuff like this but as long as everybody else is also hitting those then it would be deemed as Fair
none of this is happening
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03-30-2024 , 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by blobbloblob
That truth crushed my soul.

I used to convince myself Iggy was the "safest" site from bots due to the table caps, but when you factor in that one bot operator could have 100 accounts that thought changes.
Believe it or not when they first went to anonymous tables I had many conversations with them proving to them that collusion and bought use was going to be the easiest on ignition poker due to anonymous tables. Of course they didn't listen and I wouldn't expect them to. But I prove to them that it was going to be tons of collusion and other types of cheating due to nobody having screen names. This is why I'm saying can we really trust any site that's in it to make money? Are they really going to do what's best for the players?
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03-30-2024 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
Of course they didn't listen and I wouldn't expect them to.
I wonder why this might me?
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03-30-2024 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by AlanBostick
I wonder why this might me?
Because contrary to what most people think nobody makes enough money. They figured they would make more money by going to anonymous tables and they weren't going to listen to anything. This is the point of the whole discussion nobody makes enough money people are always willing, and I'm not saying everybody but a lot of people are always willing to do something in a gray area that would make them more money. There is a great saying in the movie Wall Street, the guy says remember one thing money makes you do things you don't want to do. imagine in theory that you ran a poker site and it had nothing but bots on it. I mean I would be the greatest scenario for any poker site in the world all bots bashing heads nobody winning all bots losing to the rake and they played 24 hours a day 7 days a week. That would actually be better than having humans there. So it's hard sometimes to believe that they don't want the bots because the bots are generating massive amounts of rake for the sites.

Like think about this for a second, the people that are developing artificial intelligence say there's a 10% to 50% chance that it will end civilization. Yet they're still developing it, why? For money. So we don't know what people are capable of doing just for money but we do know it's a lot. I mean imagine developing something that could possibly end your life and you still develop it for the money. Cuz if you don't develop it obviously somebody else will but as an entire human race nobody should be developing this stuff if it's going to end the human race. This is why I'm saying never underestimate what somebody will do for money

Last edited by Mike Haven; 04-04-2024 at 08:24 AM. Reason: 2 posts merged
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04-04-2024 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
I play mostly pot limit Omaha on the site and the one thing I've noticed and got stacked to back it up because I use a tracker is like every time you got King King would say a spade flush drawer they also have aces with say a spade frustria I mean it's virtually impossible to happen as often as it happens
Sounds like you just need to exploit the site and fold anytime you have the 2nd nut flush.
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04-05-2024 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by newguyhere
Sounds like you just need to exploit the site and fold anytime you have the 2nd nut flush.
Def been doing now.
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