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GGnetwork stolen money again 2713$! GGnetwork stolen money again 2713$!

07-20-2018 , 10:02 AM
I would like to introduce my story at GGnetwork.
In short: They thieves
I have been played as Mutualfermentation from Montenegro on GGnetwork.
On the GGnetwork was happend meaningless confiscations frequently.
So far mostly on higher limits and affected winning players.
For now everyone can be a victim.

https://imgur.com/a/JxQWJsv

BAN, the cause of money confiscation: Using a Bot
Limit: NL50
Table number: 4-9 variable
Fullring and 6max tables mixed
Quantity 6-10 hours a day because of a rake race
All tables play down to hu
Always sit down deep and was trying to stay deep

There was a leaderboard for June Holdem , I was second on a leaderboard when i got banned.
Of course it’s a lie wasn’t even running hud or anything else. Only the pokerroom client.
The network did not send any evidence about this case.
The pokerroom found strange as well, so they also wanted proof or something else. The network did not deal with them either.
Defensive trials:
- Any video production is recommended.
- Live session
- Play in their office. For example, there is one for them in London
- Preflop folded was AA, missclick. It is interesting to note that the bot that sometimes folds AA preflop.
- Not a standard game at all. Adjusting to players to every situation
They don't care about it. So there was not a lot of tables at all, the number of hours was quite normal compared to the leaderboard, but they were banned someone else with few hours of playing daily.
No programs was running, nothing.


So I think GGnetwork bann are the best way to avoid it: Do not win because you are in danger at any time.
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07-20-2018 , 10:03 AM
In addition, the case was known at the last time:
-1. Locked account for collusion. No hand history copies were sent there, they don't send anything evidence why thinking that.
Didn't was collusion. There were two regulars from different countries, no more hands than usual.
-2. Bumhuntig bans. They announce a leaderboard and during the month they banned the first, who playes and sitting on every table, and they ban for bumhunting. The real reason: won too much
-3. They can ban Everybody completely random from June because of bot uses, no reviews. never
Some 2 + 2 links, they tried a similar defense, unsuccessfully:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...k-usd-1715598/
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...k-usd-1715598/
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...le-5k-1702944/

I think with the breach of the rules they could mainly be accused, not me:
- 1. Allinasia is virtually closed.
https://www.ggnetwork.com/pricing Allinasia Channeling is likely to be related to them. So I think that they were closed with the network sublicense, and the players did not get paid on the one hand.

-2. Your network policy includes:
https://www.ggnetwork.com/network-rules
Rule 2: Payment of players and network guarantees
This does not oblige the skins. JuicePoker, owned by Natural8, did not hold it for several reasons. They have 10+, but they have even slower pay than 30 days.

-3. Payments policy, in addition to the website of some of the network's websites:
https://breakoutpoker.com/withdrawal-policy/
https://www.ggpoker.com/ggpoker-withdrawal-policy/

"Any winnings of more than $ 20,000 in limited installments of up to $ 20,000 per calendar month may be decided by the Company at its own discretion."
It's not all in the rooms, the Breakout can not keep up with it. Let's say it would not be wrong if the rules do not just run on a GGnetwork, but the rules they describe what they keep.
The bigest pot was in the network 180k USD. He can withdraw it 4 month.

-4. The policy contains some sentences on compensation.
he sums previously seized have not been split between "affected" players.
So the seized sums are retained by the network, all kinds of cheating. So of course every interest should be found to be cheating.
-5. The client designates each term of the network as if it had a UK license.
https://imgur.com/a/jpLd5Dz
https: //secure.gamblingcommission.go...h/detail/46557 Clicking this will bring it up. I would be surprised if that was true of Natural8.
N8 don’t have UK license.
-6. An PVI system, totally uncontrollable. Not just a player, but the network does not share real gross rake data with the skins.


The rules are not always clear, so the GGnetwork partner must be made clear.
-1.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...9/index17.html
416. posts. He is successfully trying to clarify these.
-2. In the case of a blocked software, if I warn you, it does not tell me which program it is.
This is really a problem when you do not use any software that is banned, but it reminds you that if you continue to use it, you can block it and throw your money.
-3. They never specify any exclusions, program use, bumhunting or collusion, anything. Not only do players have to send these data on demand, either.
So you can practically tell anyone, anytime, anything. The fact is, and then nobody can do it anywhere.

The sum of the read, justified seizures I know, in the last 9 months:
According to my calculations, at least 70 thousand USD
Of course there could be a lot more. Certainly, there are certain legitimate seizures, but I have not heard anybody from receiving any compensation.
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07-20-2018 , 10:36 AM
They did not say you used a HUD, they said you were using a bot. You probably were, but you can prove them wrong by doing a live session streamed of videoed for them to show that that is how you normally play. Odds are that will never happen and we will never hear back from you (after perhaps a feeble complaint about this post or something).

All the best.
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07-20-2018 , 10:45 AM
They don't would like to give any evidence. And they don't would like to check my evidence, i didn't use anything.

I asked them for fair and clear investigation. The skin where i played, asked them for fair and clear investigation. The GGnetwork don't care about my emails, and don't care about what write the skin to them.

Any email from me or from the skin the answer same:

https://imgur.com/a/JxQWJsv

It is not the first thread in the forums. Who read anything about the GGnetwork, many professional players can confirmed, the GGnetwork chase the wining players.
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07-20-2018 , 11:02 AM
Just do a streamed live session for them as they suggest, should be easy if you are telling the truth, but seems you will never do it. Wonder why. After today, we will see you , umm, never again.

All the best.
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07-20-2018 , 11:10 AM
Thanks your advice:
I had a little problem. My account banned, i can't login to my GGnetwork account, or any GGnetwork account with my Ip adress or from my Pc.


I see you had experience at GGnetwork. Can i ask your GGnetwork table name? Played evered that network?
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07-20-2018 , 11:20 AM
Never played there, but seen your type of thread many times - nearly 100% of the time the person was using a bot.

Email them back that they offered you to do a session for them and you are willing to do just that and then see what they say and post that here if you really want, but realistically - you used a bot, so after today as I said before the odds are we will never hear from you again. That is the way other threads like this go for a good reason.

On a separate note - rake races are always an idiotic promotion as 99% of the players realize they cannot win anything right away, and they encourage bots or multiple people using the same account. If you were the rare person who genuinely played 20 hours a day every day by yourself (not likely) - well now you learned that that behavior triggers all sorts of bot suspicions in the future.

All the best.
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07-20-2018 , 11:31 AM
Sorry, i think some mistake, or missunderstanding:

I offered them:
-I am ready any video making. Just they should say what they would like to see. I am ready to video myself, and my game in same time, or anything.
- I am ready to go anywhere all over the world. Where they have office. I am ready to play there.

So here only i offered solutions to solve the problem . They always answered the same .
Not only for me. The GGnetwork sent same answer to the skin too.
The GGnetwork, don't would like clear and fair investigation.

So they don't would like to check my video, they don't would like to check me in a office. They don't would like nothing.

They want only one thing: My money
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07-20-2018 , 11:38 AM
I realize language here may be an issue, but your first post read like the room wanted you to do a session for them. If you meant that you offered to do a session then that is different and I would suggest you include copies of those emails along with their replies.

Post every email sent and received on this topic. The more actual information you provide the better.
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07-20-2018 , 12:01 PM
Not easy to post every information, and all conversation, because after i read similar story in 2+2:
I asked help for my affiliate and my skin, to help me to get a fair and clear investigation.

In my email with GGnetwork, contain many personal information about me.

But if you check my posted links, there you can same story with full email history. In older themes you can read totally same story, with totally same GGnetwork answers. And GGnetwork didn't worry about it.

Further more : If you are any larger affiliate, or anybody who have relationship with GGnetwork, and really would like to do anything if my story true.>>I am ready to send my all converstation . But i don't would like to post in public forum my personal datas.

So who interested about the full email converstation: Please introduce yourself, what is your relationship with GGnetwork. And give a email adress where can i send the full converstation.

I am ready any fair and clear investigation, but i don't would like to post my personal datas in public forum.
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07-20-2018 , 04:24 PM
All situation is like mine. I also played similar tables and sometimes even more (10-12). Also said that I can make a video, make something to prove that im not a bot, but they just ignored me. I contacted regulation send all emails, explained all situation and waiting their response now. I think U should also do this.
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