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Old 08-09-2018, 08:22 PM   #1
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GGNetwork stealing money from players?

Most threads about this involve lots of money, multitabling etc which may fool players that GGNetwork punishes sharks and cares for poker ecology. So i write this post to inform and warn players.
1. GGnetwork gives free bonuses and if u get lucky and build a bankroll they invent a reason to block ur account, essentially stealing other ppl money
2. Their 3rd party program policy is so unclear and may depend on your deposit and winning rate.

My case proves that . I had no intention to play there but they gave me a 5$ bonus on Natural8 so i decided to try PLO . Im noob at this, i Bi 70blinds, limped alot, never 3b etc. After a temporary "account frozen" for ID verification ( after 3 weeks; when i finally start winning ofc) they warned me about using 3rd party program and i asked them what did they mean:
"Could you please explain further, what do u mean of 3rd party program? I usually open 3-4 pokerclients that dont have restrictions and HM2 +indicator +pokerstove. But they dont work on GGnetwork anyway. Should i not open them at all?"
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"Due to the fact that its disclosure would be susceptible for abuse, we are not allowed to disclose what programs we monitor nor discuss how we monitor them. As such, we would like to urge you not to use any 3rd-party programs while playing at GGNetwork. We regard the activation of a 3rd-party program and the network's game client as intent to use the program. In addition to our aforementioned requests, we hope that you will abide by the rules we have warned you about. We at GGNetwork strive to provide a fair environment for all players to enjoy their gaming."

I found it suspicious (y they didnt say which programs)since they can accuse u for anything and decided to deposit 10$ in order to withdraw when pass over 120$. Bad luck i left half BR (60$),if they prove trustworthy. I stopped playing there.

One month later i noticed an affiliate freeroll at Breakoutpoker and decided to register. Won the huge amount of 13$ at freeroll and tried to do the same at PLO. After 2-3 weeks where i hardly played 100hands and an also huge bankroll of 17$ i got a popup that they block my accounts for use of 3rd party program! I only watched tv while playing there, not even other rooms or HM2! (The strange thing is that instantly happened after a hand where i flopped 2 sets vs villain's 1 :P)

I've sent them 3 emails to tell me which software i used and i insist i dont know any software to use for PLO (so i dont have one). They keep repeating the same nonsense. Am i really unreasonable to ask for proof? I believe they may be so idiots that they treat Vbet poker client as a 3rd party tool..

Has anyone played on GGnetwork with HM or PT open?

I repeat i dont care about the 80$ but for the false claims and that they essentially steal players' money.
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Old 08-10-2018, 02:29 PM   #2
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re: GGNetwork stealing money from players?

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Has anyone played on GGnetwork with HM or PT open?
I'm just bumping/quoting this bit. I'm sure that there are some/many people that have done this and not had problems.
One of my buddies plays on GGpoker at the same time as Party/Stars, so I'll ask him and get back to you.
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Old 08-10-2018, 03:41 PM   #3
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I usually open 3-4 pokerclients that dont have restrictions and HM2 +indicator +pokerstove.
What do you mean by indicator? Do you mean software called "holdem indicator" or "Omaha indicator" (HUD software)?
I have heard that have banned lot players by using holdem indicator and omaha indicator softwares as ggnetwork rooms actually is supported by them. (Showing hud on ggnetwork skins)
They usually give one warning and ban on 2nd time you use it while ggnetwork skin is open.

I don't think hm2 is issue. Pretty sure there is regs who use hm2 without any issues on other rooms including sponsored pros like Bryan Paris.;
Not sure about pokerstove.

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Old 08-10-2018, 05:38 PM   #4
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What do you mean by indicator? Do you mean software called "holdem indicator" or "Omaha indicator" (HUD software)?
I have heard that have banned lot players by using holdem indicator and omaha indicator softwares as ggnetwork rooms actually is supported by them. (Showing hud on ggnetwork skins)
They usually give one warning and ban on 2nd time you use it while ggnetwork skin is open.

I don't think hm2 is issue. Pretty sure there is regs who use hm2 without any issues on other rooms including sponsored pros like Bryan Paris.;
Not sure about pokerstove.
Yes its the old Holdem Indicator, i use it with sportingbet (partypoker) sometimes but i didnt play at all there. And im sure i didnt see HI window at my GGN tables. Either way a reply from their security would be helpful, but...
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Old 08-10-2018, 06:01 PM   #5
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re: GGNetwork stealing money from players?

Just to confirm, my buddy said he's had HEM running while playing on GGN, and hasn't received any notifications of rule-breaking, so it's presumably something else.
The support team sounds pretty terrible, but that's the case with a lot of sites/networks. :/
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Old 08-10-2018, 06:23 PM   #6
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My bet is that they monitor holdem indicator/omaha indicator even if it not actually working on room for some reason.
If you got old cracked version from torrents of holdem indicator it might not work on room but still be monitored by network.

Yes, it not hem2 or pokertacker for sure as their team pros use them with other room while playing on ggnetwork and streaming it on twitch ect.

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Old 08-11-2018, 04:34 AM   #7
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re: GGNetwork stealing money from players?

Why did moderators put a questionmark in my title? Im not asking, i accuse them of stealing. They dont provide evidence, so they lie. They won't give money back to "victim" players, so they are stealing them. 100 similar cases are 8000$ vacation for a member of their security scam.
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Old 08-11-2018, 06:05 AM   #8
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Re: GGNetwork stealing money from players?

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Why did moderators put a questionmark in my title? Im not asking, i accuse them of stealing. They dont provide evidence, so they lie. They won't give money back to "victim" players, so they are stealing them. 100 similar cases are 8000$ vacation for a member of their security scam.
I can see that English is not your first language, so you may not understand the nuances of some words and punctuation marks.

What is your name and address so that I may make enquiries as to whether or not your unclear allegations should be taken with more than a pinch of salt?

Thank you.
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Old 08-11-2018, 11:36 PM   #9
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I can see that English is not your first language, so you may not understand the nuances of some words and punctuation marks.

What is your name and address so that I may make enquiries as to whether or not your unclear allegations should be taken with more than a pinch of salt?
GGNetwork in search engine: "GGN stole 5K", "GGN stole from me 9K", "GGN stolen money again". Why did u pick my thread for english lesson? Just curious.
As for my "unclear allegations" please invite a GGN security member to clear them out.
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Old 08-12-2018, 03:44 AM   #10
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Re: GGNetwork stealing money from players?

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GGNetwork in search engine: "GGN stole 5K", "GGN stole from me 9K", "GGN stolen money again". Why did u pick my thread for english lesson? Just curious.
As for my "unclear allegations" please invite a GGN security member to clear them out.
Please let me know what your first language is so I can provide you with a Google translation of:

"What is your name and address so that I may make enquiries as to whether or not your unclear allegations should be taken with more than a pinch of salt?"

Thank you.
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Old 08-12-2018, 11:57 AM   #11
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GGNetwork in search engine: "GGN stole 5K", "GGN stole from me 9K", "GGN stolen money again". Why did u pick my thread for english lesson? Just curious.
I would prefer to try answering this.
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Old 08-12-2018, 01:54 PM   #12
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Please let me know what your first language is
His name means crazy drunk in Spanish, so perhaps you could try that.



How about it caballero? Hablas Espanol? Que es tu nombre y direcion, porque yo quiero preguntar tu problema es verdad?
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Old 08-12-2018, 02:21 PM   #13
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How about it caballero? Hablas Espanol? Que es tu nombre y direcion, porque yo quiero preguntar tu problema es verdad?
Thank you friend, but im not spanish . I am from greece. I dont think Mike Haven was trying to help. I felt irony in his post. If not, i apologise. Besides he only appeared after my post for altering my title..
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Old 08-12-2018, 02:25 PM   #14
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I think we've found the only Greek poker player that isn't already registered into next week's Sunday Million
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