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Old 07-19-2020, 04:59 PM   #2226
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Re: GGNetwork: Natural8, etc

5mins of gameplay in the wsop opener for 2 hours
Then they reported the game will start in 30 mins
after 30 mins the game got delayed for next week lol
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Old 07-19-2020, 06:00 PM   #2227
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I read TinStone that July 2020 minimal PVI multiplier was set to 0.1 (before 0.2), so, I understand that winning players we charge less rakeback. How I know what multiplier is for me?
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Old 07-19-2020, 06:48 PM   #2228
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Has the site given an explantion for this?

In all my years playing online I have never felt I was getting cheated. Now lol, sample size and all that stuff but things have just felt off on this site from the beginning. In the first few days I played on GG I made quads about 5 times. I remmeber it raising quite a few eyebrows from me at the time. I am not sure on the statistical likelyhood of this but it must be astronomical. Following that has been an allmighty downswing where I have seen nothing but beats. All this is a tiny sample and I am pretty sure is meangingless but when you already don't fully trust a site, have the kind of playing experiecne I have had over the last month and then you see the above. It is hard for the paranoia not to set in.
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Old 07-19-2020, 06:54 PM   #2229
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I read TinStone that July 2020 minimal PVI multiplier was set to 0.1 (before 0.2), so, I understand that winning players we charge less rakeback. How I know what multiplier is for me?
Contact your agent and ask them to check the detailed report. They have to reverse the math, but easy enough to figure out
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Old 07-19-2020, 08:13 PM   #2230
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Has the site given an explantion for this?

In all my years playing online I have never felt I was getting cheated. Now lol, sample size and all that stuff but things have just felt off on this site from the beginning. In the first few days I played on GG I made quads about 5 times. I remmeber it raising quite a few eyebrows from me at the time. I am not sure on the statistical likelyhood of this but it must be astronomical. Following that has been an allmighty downswing where I have seen nothing but beats. All this is a tiny sample and I am pretty sure is meangingless but when you already don't fully trust a site, have the kind of playing experiecne I have had over the last month and then you see the above. It is hard for the paranoia not to set in.
They said it is a glitch in squeeze thats why they deactivated afterwards. What did you expect to say?

I agree very shady and i am missing fish buffet points, every sunday the platform crushes and i read people missing money from their accounts because some freezes when they unreg from the tournaments. I need to check all history now because i might be missing money aswell

I love the animation and chat, support was decent until Friday-Saturday for me and i like the schedule but the overall experience has more negatives than positives atm
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Old 07-19-2020, 09:03 PM   #2231
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They said it is a glitch in squeeze thats why they deactivated afterwards. What did you expect to say?
I would expect a really detailed technical explanation of how the squeeze card is determined and how the error occurred. Right down to showing the coding error involved. How the squeeze card isn't linked to the RNG? An explanation of how this isn't possible for the actual board itself. You know like something that might put player's minds at rest?

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I agree very shady and i am missing fish buffet points, every sunday the platform crushes and i read people missing money from their accounts because some freezes when they unreg from the tournaments. I need to check all history now because i might be missing money aswell

I love the animation and chat, support was decent until Friday-Saturday for me and i like the schedule but the overall experience has more negatives than positives atm
The site itself is fantastic. I love the playing experience too. I really wish I had confidence and trust enough to keep playing there especially over the coming WSOP events.
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Old 07-19-2020, 10:26 PM   #2232
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lol servers down again?
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Old 07-19-2020, 10:38 PM   #2233
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Every time I try and connect I get server is unstable error.
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Old 07-19-2020, 10:38 PM   #2234
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Can Aussies travel to play in WSOP?
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Old 07-19-2020, 11:47 PM   #2235
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Can Aussies travel to play in WSOP?
Yes. Have to be in a legal location, show stamped passport and lodging receipt.
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Old 07-20-2020, 03:37 AM   #2236
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Contact your agent and ask them to check the detailed report. They have to reverse the math, but easy enough to figure out
He tells me that the room does not give him the detail of the PVI multiplier
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Old 07-20-2020, 03:42 AM   #2237
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He tells me that the room does not give him the detail of the PVI multiplier
No agent apart from very very toptier agents will know ur pvi bc it is not shown for them same like it does not show for you
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Old 07-20-2020, 03:45 AM   #2238
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Your best bet to find out ur pvi is to track all rake on your end over the course of a month and then ask your agent how much rake was attributed for this month (he has that number)

Then his rake / your rake = appr. PVI
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Old 07-20-2020, 07:16 AM   #2239
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Re: GGNetwork: Natural8, etc

what will happen to satelite tickets won in satelites if I have multiple satelite tickets of the same tournament and I make it to day 2 of this tournament?

Will the tickets I have left forfeit or will they be converted into tournament $?
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Old 07-20-2020, 07:18 AM   #2240
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Hi,
Does anyone know if the “wsop tickets” won during the leaderboards can be exchanged for cash at the end of the series ? Or do I have to use them.
Thanks in advance
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Old 07-20-2020, 07:35 AM   #2241
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what will happen to satelite tickets won in satelites if I have multiple satelite tickets of the same tournament and I make it to day 2 of this tournament?

Will the tickets I have left forfeit or will they be converted into tournament $?
I know all the silk road events said that any unused tickets would get converted to T$ but only at the end of the WSOP series. Seems a little silly if they don't convert them as the events for those tickets are over to give people a chance to use them during the series.
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Old 07-20-2020, 09:15 AM   #2242
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silk road? idk what this is.

I mean satelites in general.
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Old 07-20-2020, 09:24 AM   #2243
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silk road? idk what this is.

I mean satelites in general.
You know the tabs across the top. One of them is called Silk Road. They are small buy-in huge runner loads of tickets satellites. If you click into any of them in the lobby in them it says.

"All unused WSOP tickets from Silk Road will be converted to T$ at the end of the series"
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Old 07-20-2020, 09:59 AM   #2244
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okay. i dont play this. but ty anyways ^^
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Old 07-20-2020, 10:02 AM   #2245
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okay. i dont play this. but ty anyways ^^
Shoot an email to support. They are pretty good usually at getting back to people quickly.
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Old 07-20-2020, 12:41 PM   #2246
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He tells me that the room does not give him the detail of the PVI multiplier
Details of the PVI? No, can only reverse the math to figure it out.

For example a player has

Rake of $1,700.
PVI Reconciliation of -$8000
FB of $200
Cash profit $2,600
MTT profit 170

Due to the player being profitable, they lost $960 in FB due to their pvi. It should have been $1,000. Their pvi is .2. If it was a 1, then the player would have received FB rewards of 1K.

What is a total mystery is the formula they use to determine the reconciliation number. It has to do with volume, % of pots won, etc... Its an indirect rake. If you play a hand, have a large pot, rake is $500 worth, and you and another player were HU the entire hand, a total of $0.00 of that rake amount is credited to you. You only get the rakeback if you lose the hand.

The winningest players will be set at .1 x rake and the biggest losers will get 2 x rake. That number is fluid and adjusts at the end of your session.
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Old 07-20-2020, 01:14 PM   #2247
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what will happen to satelite tickets won in satelites if I have multiple satelite tickets of the same tournament and I make it to day 2 of this tournament?

Will the tickets I have left forfeit or will they be converted into tournament $?
I asked support and they told me that all unused tickets would be converted into T$ in september.
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Old 07-20-2020, 01:43 PM   #2248
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I asked support and they told me that all unused tickets would be converted into T$ in september.
That is a huge gaff on their part. They should be getting those $ back in circulation as soon the target tournaments are over.
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Old 07-20-2020, 07:46 PM   #2249
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I was playing a tourney on Sunday night, when this froze, but got no refunds ?

Earlier, I got refunds from Monster stack right away, this is a HUGE concern, why one was auto refunded, other has no refunds.

I am going to be cautious, GG
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Old 07-21-2020, 05:19 PM   #2250
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I was playing a tourney on Sunday night, when this froze, but got no refunds ?

Earlier, I got refunds from Monster stack right away, this is a HUGE concern, why one was auto refunded, other has no refunds.

I am going to be cautious, GG
Indeed - my 15 BB stack became 2 BBs in the Sunday night WSOP opener flight during the disconnect whilst a few remained able to play on. Obv busted as soon as i finally got back in but they have only mentioned the compensation for the remaining players who got auto moved to day 2 five mins later. Lol.

Usually really quick at responding to Emails as well - Conveniently not a peep from them yet over 48 hours later.

There is a reason Stars always was and always will be number 1.
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