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Old 02-16-2020, 12:18 PM   #1226
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Re: GGNetwork: Natural8, etc

does anyone have an idea how much bb/100 rake you pay on 2/5 and 5/10 NLH?
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Old 02-16-2020, 10:10 PM   #1227
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My brain melts when I try to figure out EV losses from all in insurance at GGPoker.

Can someone give me a ballpark figure? Like how hard would it be for GGPoker to write clearly like Pokerstars "The player chooses the all-in cash-out option and receives their share of the pot based on their equity in the hand, minus an administrative fee of 1% of their equity." instead of talking about odds, would be easier for dumb people like me . Not sure if earlier posts about this being close to 0 EV apply still.
They have example hands on their sites; calculate the odds and compare it to the odds they are giving and you will see the insurance cost is too high. It was 0 EV in the past; I don't know what was the last year it was so but it was a long time ago.
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Old 02-17-2020, 03:08 AM   #1228
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Re: GGNetwork: Natural8, etc

are they still raking preflop (3bet+) pots in nlhe ring games ?
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Old 02-17-2020, 01:04 PM   #1229
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are they still raking preflop (3bet+) pots in nlhe ring games ?
Yes, here to stay
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Old 02-17-2020, 01:06 PM   #1230
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No there is not. This and that table(s) will not pop up when action is on you makes this network unplayable for me and probably many others.
Table pop up when action is on you, and resizing works.

The only messed up thing about table popping up is when there is a popup in the other table (i.e. A.I.I popup window) disturb focusing-table operation
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Old 02-17-2020, 01:08 PM   #1231
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is anybody already had the feeling that something is not clear there?

let me try to explain:
i play on N8 since few months. mostly CG between Nl100 and NL500, some MTT, and i m trying to stay away from all in or fold tables where variance had reach a point i can t describe...

since my 1st day, i think some board are very strange. but the player is insanly soft and i conviced myself to give it a longer shot. i play since 15 years and i know words as variance and bad run

but, was i saw yestrday is just insane...
after 1k hands NL100/200, i made 5 times quads on flop while holding pocket pair. ok it s cool to run good but is this real?

i played late, traffic was slower and wanted to quit. but on 1 NL100 table, i played with one of the worst player i ever meet. he had a 75% VPIP if i trust their hud. and best of all, he had 4 buy in in front of him. as it was clear he will leave with 0 i stayed at the table. during 2-3 hours.
he obv lost a lot of hands but never when pot was >15-20bb
i got him 4 times all in vs me. 1st 3 i held AA, AA and KK. lost all. ok it happens, mostly when you can t have any read vs that kind of whale.

the 4th hand was...
he limped, i raised, 1 guy called.
he 3bet
i 4bet jam, guy fold, he called and asked 3 times which i accept.

is this a standard variance reallly?

standard
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Old 02-18-2020, 01:01 AM   #1232
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Re: GGNetwork: Natural8, etc

Phew, managed to pull out the making a FT in a daily guaranteed honeymoon mission after only noticing this afternoon with a few hours left that this was the daily mission.

Can anyone give me a headsup as to what day (i.e. mission day; this FT challenge I had today was the 20th) the one where you have to win a bounty hunters is on? So I actually attempt to play most of the bounty tourneys of that day, starting with night time since there are fewer entries.
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Old 02-18-2020, 01:54 PM   #1233
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Re: GGNetwork: Natural8, etc

Is it common to lose connection a lot on this network?
I've only been playing a few days but been I've been disconnected 4 times already while none of the other sites I've been on have had any such problems. I'm in the UK if it matters.
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Old 02-19-2020, 04:31 AM   #1234
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Are you playing on 2bet4win?
I heard they are located in UK.
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Old 02-19-2020, 06:22 AM   #1235
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Is it common to lose connection a lot on this network?
I've only been playing a few days but been I've been disconnected 4 times already while none of the other sites I've been on have had any such problems. I'm in the UK if it matters.
Been playing there for 2 weeks and had faced a couple of disconnected/shutdown of program all of sudden. Felt super strange, and when asked to my affiliatte about it , he said nobody is complaining about it, so I thought should be sth on my side, apparently not.

I live in Brazil fwiw
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Old 02-19-2020, 04:51 PM   #1236
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whats the situation with HUDs on GG? i know they are forbidden and i dont intend to work my way around that... does that mean i can never play on Stars and GG at the same time, assuming im running HEM2 for Stars? What does it help if i have HEM running when GG doesnt provide any HHs?
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Old 02-21-2020, 05:16 AM   #1237
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This is ok on N8
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Old 02-21-2020, 01:56 PM   #1238
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Re: GGNetwork: Natural8, etc

Hey, do you know if there is a way, thru Pokercraft or something else, to track all the money I won with cash drops in Rush and Cash?

I keep track of all the money I got from deposit bonus, fish buffet, bingo jackpots, but all I am missing to calculate the true rakeback and rake paid is the money I won in cash drop pots.

Thanks in advance!
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Old 02-21-2020, 02:19 PM   #1239
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Hey, do you know if there is a way, thru Pokercraft or something else, to track all the money I won with cash drops in Rush and Cash?

I keep track of all the money I got from deposit bonus, fish buffet, bingo jackpots, but all I am missing to calculate the true rakeback and rake paid is the money I won in cash drop pots.

Thanks in advance!
the way i calculate my rake is
100 * {[(total money in account) - ( pokercraft money won )] / ( big blind of my game ) / ( number of hands played )}

for my PLO games it comes out to around 5bb / 100 hands which is way cheaper then what i calculated on pokerstars

keep in mind this number includes the rakeback you get from fish buffet

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Old 02-21-2020, 03:20 PM   #1240
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the way i calculate my rake is
100 * {[(total money in account) - ( pokercraft money won )] / ( big blind of my game ) / ( number of hands played )}

for my PLO games it comes out to around 5bb / 100 hands which is way cheaper then what i calculated on pokerstars

keep in mind this number includes the rakeback you get from fish buffet
yeah, that works well if you play a single game at a single limit. But I play some NL50 and NL200 + some All in or fold, 2$, 8$ and some 32$ too.

I can figure my total real winning and compare with my pokercraft winning, so I can see what my total rake is. But it's hard to calculate what the rake back actually is.
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Old 02-22-2020, 06:35 PM   #1241
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The covered cards are really annoying, anyway to turn this off?
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Old 02-22-2020, 06:47 PM   #1242
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whats the situation with HUDs on GG? i know they are forbidden and i dont intend to work my way around that... does that mean i can never play on Stars and GG at the same time, assuming im running HEM2 for Stars? What does it help if i have HEM running when GG doesnt provide any HHs?


Can someone confirm this is fine? So if you are playing on partypoker with partycaption and no hem/hud... and on natural8... that is fine right?



But what if you play with stars or 888 and have hem2 on and starscaption on etc? Is there any issue? Because it seems like if u play on natural8... if you play any other site at same time, you cant have hem2 on so basically its only natural8 and party? But someone below says natural8 doesn't mind that if you play on stars with hem2 on while playing also on natural8?



How is the site for mtt? I noticed there isn't that many players but is this site tough/hard/soft compared to the main sites like stars/party/888? Im talking about like low to medium stakes. Say 33 and below or 55 and below.



Also i know natural8/gg has that staking thing. Anyone here deposit money on natural8 and do not play and just stake players there? Are there ppl who are profitable staking players there? I like the fact that its built in the system where you don't have to be concerned if you get paid or not. Because i assume look who is good player and sell at reasonable markup... right? Now are players allowed to sell something ridiculous like 90% but then charge a 1.15 markup where they basically get a freeroll? I heard this is unethical where its like ppl sell 60% and charge like 1.5 markup where its impossible for the player to lose. Does natural8 allow this or not?



Also is there a reason lot of ppl talk about natural8/gg? I mean it looks like a fun site with the design/look and looks very recreational.
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Old 02-22-2020, 07:24 PM   #1243
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The covered cards are really annoying, anyway to turn this off?
turn off squeeze feature in settings
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Old 02-22-2020, 09:26 PM   #1244
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Can someone confirm this is fine? So if you are playing on partypoker with partycaption and no hem/hud... and on natural8... that is fine right?



But what if you play with stars or 888 and have hem2 on and starscaption on etc? Is there any issue? Because it seems like if u play on natural8... if you play any other site at same time, you cant have hem2 on so basically its only natural8 and party? But someone below says natural8 doesn't mind that if you play on stars with hem2 on while playing also on natural8?



How is the site for mtt? I noticed there isn't that many players but is this site tough/hard/soft compared to the main sites like stars/party/888? Im talking about like low to medium stakes. Say 33 and below or 55 and below.



Also i know natural8/gg has that staking thing. Anyone here deposit money on natural8 and do not play and just stake players there? Are there ppl who are profitable staking players there? I like the fact that its built in the system where you don't have to be concerned if you get paid or not. Because i assume look who is good player and sell at reasonable markup... right? Now are players allowed to sell something ridiculous like 90% but then charge a 1.15 markup where they basically get a freeroll? I heard this is unethical where its like ppl sell 60% and charge like 1.5 markup where its impossible for the player to lose. Does natural8 allow this or not?



Also is there a reason lot of ppl talk about natural8/gg? I mean it looks like a fun site with the design/look and looks very recreational.
running huds on other sites is fine. there is an answer just recently about this from gg rep on their discord gg.gl/discord
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Old 02-23-2020, 03:46 AM   #1245
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Can someone confirm this is fine? So if you are playing on partypoker with partycaption and no hem/hud... and on natural8... that is fine right?



But what if you play with stars or 888 and have hem2 on and starscaption on etc? Is there any issue? Because it seems like if u play on natural8... if you play any other site at same time, you cant have hem2 on so basically its only natural8 and party? But someone below says natural8 doesn't mind that if you play on stars with hem2 on while playing also on natural8?



How is the site for mtt? I noticed there isn't that many players but is this site tough/hard/soft compared to the main sites like stars/party/888? Im talking about like low to medium stakes. Say 33 and below or 55 and below.



Also i know natural8/gg has that staking thing. Anyone here deposit money on natural8 and do not play and just stake players there? Are there ppl who are profitable staking players there? I like the fact that its built in the system where you don't have to be concerned if you get paid or not. Because i assume look who is good player and sell at reasonable markup... right? Now are players allowed to sell something ridiculous like 90% but then charge a 1.15 markup where they basically get a freeroll? I heard this is unethical where its like ppl sell 60% and charge like 1.5 markup where its impossible for the player to lose. Does natural8 allow this or not?



Also is there a reason lot of ppl talk about natural8/gg? I mean it looks like a fun site with the design/look and looks very recreational.

Its really fine to use tools for other sites as long as you dont mod it to use on N8

Staking is open and free market, a player can charge whatever mu he wishes
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Old 02-23-2020, 09:13 AM   #1246
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Its really fine to use tools for other sites as long as you dont mod it to use on N8
I don't think such (discords) sites have any useful information. It needs to read in the Terms/Agreements.
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Old 02-23-2020, 09:18 AM   #1247
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Re: GGNetwork: Natural8, etc

If it's an official discord and posted by somebody employed by GG than it will most likely hold valuable & true information.

What you saying is basically "if pokerstars.com posts something on twitter it's bs if it's not in the TOC..."
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Old 02-23-2020, 02:45 PM   #1248
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Its really fine to use tools for other sites as long as you dont mod it to use on N8

Staking is open and free market, a player can charge whatever mu he wishes


Thanks for response. But basically lot of people there are looking for a freeroll essentially right? Like when someone sells 90% at charges 1.10 markup, that is essentially a 10% freeroll for them right assuming they sell all 90%? I see someone selling at 2... for 50%. I mean thats essentially saying hey i want to play this mtt and you guys cover my whole buyin... i get 50/50 right?



Also let say a player sells 50% and sells at 1.10 for a 55 dollar tournament to make it simple. If say a few minutes before tournament starts and say this player only sold 10%, if they unreg from it, then the stakers money is automatically returned right? But if this player stays registered for the tournament and only has 10% sold, he is basically playing 90% of himself? So basically the player has to look really closely towards when tournament starts to make sure they are willing to play this tournament? Like say someone wants to sell 90% of themselves and got nobody buying close to tournament time, they have to make sure they unreg otherwise they are in for the entire buyin right? Because they need to have the money in their account to register the event right? Example a player wants to play in a $55 tournament and wants to sell 50% action but only has $27.50 in his balance. Natural8 requires them to have the full buyin to register right?



Also when does the buying action stop? Example if the same player sold only 10% like a few minutes before tourney starts... once the tourney starts... no more action can be bought right? Also if a player late regs a tournament, you cannot sell/buy action from this player right? And i believe some of these tournaments are rebuys... so essentially no action/staking on rebuys right?
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Old 02-24-2020, 10:01 AM   #1249
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Thanks for response. But basically lot of people there are looking for a freeroll essentially right? Like when someone sells 90% at charges 1.10 markup, that is essentially a 10% freeroll for them right assuming they sell all 90%? I see someone selling at 2... for 50%. I mean thats essentially saying hey i want to play this mtt and you guys cover my whole buyin... i get 50/50 right?



Also let say a player sells 50% and sells at 1.10 for a 55 dollar tournament to make it simple. If say a few minutes before tournament starts and say this player only sold 10%, if they unreg from it, then the stakers money is automatically returned right? But if this player stays registered for the tournament and only has 10% sold, he is basically playing 90% of himself? So basically the player has to look really closely towards when tournament starts to make sure they are willing to play this tournament? Like say someone wants to sell 90% of themselves and got nobody buying close to tournament time, they have to make sure they unreg otherwise they are in for the entire buyin right? Because they need to have the money in their account to register the event right? Example a player wants to play in a $55 tournament and wants to sell 50% action but only has $27.50 in his balance. Natural8 requires them to have the full buyin to register right?



Also when does the buying action stop? Example if the same player sold only 10% like a few minutes before tourney starts... once the tourney starts... no more action can be bought right? Also if a player late regs a tournament, you cannot sell/buy action from this player right? And i believe some of these tournaments are rebuys... so essentially no action/staking on rebuys right?
A player must register the tournament first before being allowed to sell action, so yes he needs to have the full buyin.

In the event he unregs, the buyins are automatically returned to everyone
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Old 02-24-2020, 01:43 PM   #1250
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Thanks for that information. So basically anyone that late regs cannot sell action right?


Also some tournaments there are rebuys right? So how would that work? Im looking at lobby and dont have account there but buying action seems pretty interesting and fun so to speak.
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