The support sent me a download link, so all good.
On the website, it is not available.

Okay so i just read through entire thread and see lots of comments and have a few more questions.



1. Does it matter if one chooses ggpoker vs natural8? I recalled that bparis guy streamed natural8 table so i thought okay this site must be legit if someone like him streams it.



2. I took a look at some cash and tournament tables as observer as i did not create account. I see one number that is shown for the players... is that the hud? Thus the vpip stat? So natural8 gives you a smart hud but which stats does it show? Vpip only? Or the typical vpip/ pfr and aggression factor?



3. I read you cannot use a hud on this site. But what if you are playing on stars or 888 etc and playing a natural8 table? That would be an issue or not? If an issue, that mean you can't play on any other site that uses a hud since even if you dont use it on natural8, thats still problem?



4. Is this site soft or tougher or same with say stars? I read that its more reg infested now when reading the thread. Any reason to play here vs stars?


5. How many mtt can you play up to at once? What about cash?


6. Read there is cheating and bots. Is that still going on now? If so, at cash or tournaments?



I read through entire thread. i read people mention you use a hud, you can get banned. But if you are playing other sites like stars and 888 etc where your hud is on, that means you cant play on ggpoker/natural8 etc?


I did not see any mention of this so im assuming dont play on stars or 888 if you are playing on ggpoker?


Well it seemed legit b/c bparis was streaming it but i hear lot of things here on the forum about it.

Shocking.

I recommend google search words:
How to use google search
How to use 2+2 forum search
How to read forum comments

The GGPoker (a skin) Terms are not correct when it comes to the accepted countries as all skins have to have the same rules about it as far as they told me (that's not he case on many other networks). This skin might not be as secure if it is regulated where I think it is but it has a skin-license in the UK and they have to follow the network rules, but still, one should beware if they can just hit and run.

There are only the countries you see playing there and the sign up form should have all the countries that are accepted, or so they told me. They don't allow one to play from non-accepted countries even during the visits there and say not to use a VPN as it might result in a ban.

IPad link they gave to me didn't work for me for some reason but that's my problem.

Playing PLO. Bestpoker and now GGpoker (for regulatory reasons that now doesn't matter) and boomed here also for a start.

Got stacked on 5T5T vs. TTxx (also a new player? I had A5xx vs. a pre 3-bet) and went to Stars and instantly got stacked against T5(86) on the same 5T5 flop (I had aa5x that I 3-bet pre). The quads man got a jackpot prize as did another person on another table a couple of minutes earlier.

You can sure play the regular Stars tables as they have a 4 table cap and the NLH doesn't look all that good to me at GG and there are players who play more tables than that. I just play zoom at Stars as I have a respectable lose rate there at all the regular tables. A bit worried about this GG site and might just focus on tourneys there.

But this site is very good for mobile play as one has the one number hud and notes and they are all on the server. Stars mobile has no notes possibility and seems mobile playable to me only as PLO zoom, also considering the other players have everything. The rake is also lower at PLO here than at Stars and GG offers a rakeback.

I guess you get a warning if you have a tracker open on GG and the next time you might get banned. Some people must have experience. I am not stupid enough to even try to test it on this network. The odds are it can happen accidentally sometimes. The tourney players run the biggest risks; sometimes (again) accidentally. Maybe they don't track how long and how often it runs but the tourney players are the risk group even if they do.

Just started playing on GG poker and haven't read this thread but currently playing cash games and the note taking is really annoying. You get through half your note and then your turn comes and you can't finish your note and you can't act on your turn.

You have to save your note, make your action, then open the note to finish. It's a real pain when you're multitabling. Can you make it so the note taking happens of the table so you can do both at the same time? Every other poker client does this.

Also, can you make it so when you check the "fold to any bet" box it only works for the current street. Eg, if you tick it pre flop, it folds around to the small blind who calls. You now see a flop but the box is still ticked so if they bet you auto fold. It should reset each street.

The rake is uncapped right? And your post should be used how to promote a site against the market leader for sure.

PLO200+ at GG has too high rakes as there is no rake cap. Other than that and with a mobile, GG is the better site. I play PLO zoom at Stars for training purposes and find it useful and I play it with a mobile and pay for that lack of information compared to what most of my opponents get.

The regular gaming at Stars has improved with the four table cap, insurance (for shot purposes) that's clear also while the insurance at GG is unclear and seems to cost up to much more. Both sites can run it 1-2 or 1-3 times if the other cooperates (at Stars it can be preselected).

With the 50 percent rakeback that GG offers, 200PLO rake is probably lower than stars too.... Although I ran the numbers a long time ago, so dont 2p2 quote me on this.....LOL

This site is just as legit as any other site. And I dont think its a problem to use a hud on other sites at the same time as GG, because its not configured with GG therefore it doesnt work with GG...

Yeah with policy to ban winning players that are not streamers etc. Meaning the ridiculous bumhunt rule in tos.

If they really banned all winning players, by extension other players would become winners and they would have to ban the whole site. Somebodys gotta win.

Yeah gg wins constantly banning and confistigating funds.

Every site bans and confiscates funds.

Most sites only do it if actual cheating (botting, collusion, real time assistance) took place
GG does it randomly with winning players, or at least did it to me

This might sound like a troll but im new to 2p2 and sorry to hear that.

Did they let You cash out?

Natural8 has Terms (though secondary to network terms that do not define bumhunting) that seem to define bumhunting as camping (waiting or so for a bum with any number of players) as well as targeting (in the camping way). Below is a copy-paste.

"Please do not partcipate in the act of bumhunting. Like collusion, Natural8 regards bumhunting as a serious violation of its rules.

In general, players are expected to be seated with the purpose of playing. It is acceptable to be seated and occasionally deny action in certain circumstances, such as being seated to help start a new ring game, but not willing to play heads-up.

It is not acceptable to remain seated out at a table (especially an active one) waiting for one of only a few preferred opponents to arrive to play with; in other words, it is not acceptable to target specific players. In general, seated players are expected to accept action much more often than they refuse it."

Unfortunately is not, you can read the whole story here: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...44/?highlight=

They took 5k out of my account to give it back to the people I "cheated"
(However they didnt say who it was, pretty sure they kept it themselves) and let me cash out my remaining 9k or whatever
You can read the complete story in my thread

Does anybody know whats up with preflop rake here? I read conflucting info:

I read

a) rake pre if there was a 3b

OR

b) they charge 1sb as sit down fee


Does anybody know?

Looks like to me then that if one is a winning mid to high stakes player on this network, one runs the risk of getting banned and more. According to this, there are winning players so the lower limit players can probably confidently grind it out and not get banned.

Playing only the tourneys or MTTs might be some bit safer at any level as long as one doesn't have a tracker open.

The site being licensed in Curacao won't give players any protection. If one is not a resident of the UK or another regulated one.

Regularly taking a table with a bum in it is technically enough to get anyone banned (and the winnings of such activity taken and the account closed).

One rates to get a warning first but one is dead the second time around.

They have a button on the table for changing a table that isn't targeted moving the first time but is still avoidance and one is most likely to use it when the table gets bad and that is against the Terms and when used regularly can get one banned as it is bumhunting.

Maybe the Terms have improved a bit or will improve a bit but at this time one can still expect anything.

They take rake form 3bet pots, and additional rake for big hand jackpot, but dont think there is sit down fee.

Sorry if it's been discussed before but can't find it.

Does anyone know/ worked out what players pay in bb/100 for rake at different stakes?

Having gone through a friends records it seems he's paying ~14bb/100 at 200nl before any kind of rakeback.

Imagine that how big you r rb is. Makes so much sense to play gg now.

Yeh would be great if anyone can confirm the bb/100 rake at GG at different stakes.

Sounds reasonable imo. So with good deal you pay 5-8/100 which isnt great but also not terrible if games are decent