In case anyone has not read GG's statement.....

anyone freezed 500 main mini?

What? A server crash on GG ?!

Played the 8.70$ ko and they canceled it at 150 players left, what refund will i get i was about 50th at this time with 35bb and 11$ Bounty collected

so after 13k hands on NL5, i am up 124$, in my account there is +63$ INCLUDING the fish buffet money which means i've paid 63$ in rake AFTER the rakeback. that means ~10bb/100. how is it %5 rake? that thing is unbeatable i'd say.

Can someone clear this up for me... I always thought that to play on GG you had to be a resident of an accepted country, and would have to provide proof of residency. But I have recently heard multiple people including some streamers say that you just have to be in the country to play, don't have to be a resident, similar to how you just need to be in PA/NJ/NV to play regulated sites there.

Anyone know which it is? And I don't mean like the whole VPN thing where technically it's not allowed but you can likely get away with it. Want to know what the actual site rules are and would only play if they 100% allow it, don't want to do anything sketchy.

As a US resident can I go to Canada or Mexico, get a hotel room, create an account with my US address and have no issues with my account/payouts?

Absolutley and for the WSOP too.

They are going hard on anything outside the specific rules for any entry into the WSOP events or other marquee games. As long as you can prove you are in a legal location you can play.

please please allow us to hide cashier and allow mouse hotkeys

Excuse my ignorance, but what is discord?

No. But GG marketing is genius as they promote that they lowered the rake when in fact they have increased it lol.

I was paying around 8bb/100 in rake with the old structure but now i'm paying around 10bb/100. ( Playing 2/5 to 5/10 so the 1.5bb tier)
I would say the only stake that got unaffected is the VIP game but everything below got at least 2bb worse.

The only true thing is that micro rake is pretty good compared to traditional sites.

You can hide balance. Also I think there are some sort of hotkeys but not mouse.

discord.com

I am new at GGPoker.

1.) If I bust a tournament, the tournament table stands open. How can I auto close?
2.) When I tile tables, my monitor still has place at the top, bottom and sides? Why does the tile option not use the full size?
3.) New tournament tables are popping up where they want. Stars remembers positions. Any chance to do that for GG?
4.) The lobby is super frustrating. Any tipps how to organize?
5.) Is it normal that daily tournaments dont have satellites? E.g. $210 Bounty and $200 Daily Main
6.) I play GGPoker and Stars at the same time. Running Pokertracker in the background for Stars HUD. Is that a problem with GG?
7.) I love the Turbo and Hyper Turbo Tournaments at Stars. But at GG there is nothing?

As for the bottom 3 questions....

5. Not many games have sats running, Masters almost always has something.

6. I asked specifically about this and they said not an issue and they could tell 100% if used on the site. FWIW, I'd email or live chat them and ask, then save it. My overall confidence in online CS is minuscule.

7. They have some, not lots. They may have alterred the schedule for the WSOP

So based on their statement one could imply that the concept of table / game selection is not against their ToS assuming one does not leave the table to join another once a particular player leaves.

Some of what I read regarding players getting banned seemed to point to table / game selection to be a breach of their ToS which was odd given that fact that the software allows you to view players at tables, join waiting lists or even open the table of a particular player you have notes on. Seems as though they could protect the ecosystem a lot better by removing all of those features and just keeping the join next available table as your only option.

The one thing that did seem to be fairly consistent in any discussion of players being banned or funds seized was the aspect of having multiple accounts across the different skins, or joining another skin once being banned from a previous one.

Definitely have been a bit worried about all the news as I am rebuilding a roll on GG but did feel that the fact that so much went public that GG had to issue a statement and if they were engaging in such behaviour essentially be forced to curb such behaviour or see some of the ecosystem they were trying to build take their money elsewhere.

GG was not going to make a move with the rake that would lower their overall profit. This move doesn't benefit the smaller pots, it only benefits larger pots. So if you manag to get it allin on every single pot you play in against an opponent with a similar or larger stack you will benefit from lower rake due to the now firm cap.

Thanks GG!

I really don’t get this fish buffet system at all. As an o or opus I was getting 75$ 90$ per spin. I get to whale and my first spin is 80$ for 20% rake back. Why did I just get half the rake back I was getting? Seems like a drastic drop. I was expecting 250/320$ and I got 80$. Needless to say I’m just going back to stars now. This is just way to frustrating

Rake is always based on raked hands and the PVI.

The more you win, the less rakeback you get.

Although you may have moved up in levels, that doesn't mean you're going to get more rakeback. If you are having a winning week or month they are going to give you less rakeback.

Its an incentive for losing players to stay on the site because they get more rakeback.

The PVI is basically a multiplier.

Winning players have a PVI of less than 1
Losing players have a PVI of greater than 1

From what I can tell this is how it works:

$100 is raked by 2 players in a single session
Player A is a winner and has a PVI of .5
Player B is a loser and has a PVI of 1.5

Player A gets $50 rakeback added to their total for the week
Player B gets $150 rakeback added to their total for the week

Player A could rake $700 for the week and only get credit for $350 and then get 20% of that back for a total of $70.

Player B could rake $700 for the week and get cred for $1050 and then get 20% of that back for $210

Stop winning and you'll get more rakeback

I've had huge losing streaks and then got the $100 on black shark. On the other hand I had two 1k spins in a row while on a heater.

Just last weekend I got two 800's in one long session while already winning.

The thing with getting less points on per $ raked is def true tho.

There is still a random factor to what your rakeback is, but as you mention above in regards to the points the difference between a winning and losing player will be how quickly they achieve the chance to spin for rakeback.

My example is a bit off since it was based on total rakeback and not eligibility to get a spin. Winning player A will take twice as many raked hands or more as losing player B for a chance to receive the same rakeback spin.The losing player in my example would basically get 3 spins for every 1 spin of player A thus allowing them a chance for double or more the rakeback even if both players spin for the same rake percentage.

Pretty much explains why I'm crawling along the fish buffet ladder after only losing 1 out of the last 16 days lol.

Does this mean that the probabilities shown for each payout in the client are wrong?

Ahh sorry, yeah I agree. Should've read more carefully.

This is why I’m confused, I actually had a horrible week. It’s just super weird I go from a 15000 point octopus 90$ payout to a 80$ whale payout for 40k points in about the same timeframe. What you would say would explain things, if I was on a tear, which I’m currently not.

What I don’t get is the drop off. I get top rake back one day, and two days later I’m dropped to the complete bottom tier. My play didn’t change if anything I feel they just cheaped me out cause my roll was low.

I literally just tripled my play for 10% less rakeback. I could have accepted it better if it dropped gradually. But I mean come on. If it took me the entire time to unlock it fine. But my unlocking of points has remained consistent since I joined. I’m sorry but I feel cheated going from top end rake deal one day to two days later getting the shittiest rake back once actually good money amounts are offered.

Why give me 90$ in my last two stages of ocotopus. This made me beleive I was in the highest tear of rakeback and my play reflected.

I am by no means an expert, just know what I've read.

The PVI isn't a fluid number, according to some sites it can change basically whenever they want. So you might have a set PVI based on winnings that doesn't get adjusted for a losing week. Long term losing (whatever GGpoker figures that is) would prompt an adjustment to your PVI.

The lower rakeback is likely a result of the ranges provided for different levels. You can spin 15 to 90 at one level and then jump up the next and do 40 to 120 or something like that. So even if you binked 2 x 90s in a row at the lower level you could randomly spin a 40 at the higher.

Not saying its right but they hold all the keys to the castle, we just have to live with it or move sites. I've played on Stars long enough to say that from an omaha perspective the player pool on GG more than makes up for any rakeback disparities between GG and Stars.